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Aslan
17th December 2015, 19:12
link: https://www.youtube.com/user/StormCloudsGathering/videos

I've watched this guy for about a year now and I wanted to ask about your guys' opinions on this individual. He shows revolutionary potential and is active in helping people. And while he makes good points, he goes dangerously close to conspiracy theories (expecially in his newest Paris attack video and 9/11) where the Frech government was warned by the Iraqi and Turkish government and that the jewish community of Paris was warned of a terrorist attack.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4nabFH_aY

My biggest problem with him is his flirtation with Molyneux's Anarcho-capitalism. He isn't usually political in his videos and doesn't show much general right-libertarian though from his videos; which is preferable.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRcL0gEMvz4

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Another thing, are there any good youtube channels that deal with socialism and left-libertarian thought? I know Anarchopac and Jon Doe, and I take them seriously, but other than them I don't watch much else.

Another-other thing, are there any good geo-political channels too?

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
17th December 2015, 19:35
From what I know, guy's an "anarcho-capitalist" who thinks he can hoodwink leftists by focusing on the less obviously bug-fucking crazy aspects of his "ideology"; he also seems to attract a pretty anti-semitic crowd.

Comrade Jacob
17th December 2015, 19:38
I used to watch a bit of him but then he went a bit too off the rails, so I left.

Bala Perdida
17th December 2015, 20:30
Sort of a lifestylist. Akwardky pacifist. When he talks of international affairs though, he reminds me of a mainstream marxist-leninist. Who he seems to have a small following of. You know, supporting Assad and Iran. The DNR. Even Venezuela at one point. His analysis isn't surprising to me anymore.

Aslan
17th December 2015, 22:19
Bala, you have a point.

Now that I recall, he never seems to mention organizations like the PKK and Rojava. I watched his videos for a long time now, and I used to like his videos. These days though it seems like he sounds very right-wing at some points. To the point where he flirts with antisemitism and conspiracy.

Although I like that he is using innovative architecture for third-world countries.

#FF0000
18th December 2015, 03:43
Bullshit. Virtually all YouTube personalities are.

Jacob Cliff
18th December 2015, 05:03
Bullshit. Virtually all YouTube personalities are.
On an unrelated note, why not start a broad, communist version of something like Prager University? (A terrible, disgustingly reactionary YT channel, I know, but it appeals a huge amount of youths and is excellently well-made – something which gives it legitimacy to people who buy into the garbage is spews). I feel tools on the Internet for communist education is a necessity for appealing to the youth, or exposing them to communism.

#FF0000
18th December 2015, 17:36
On an unrelated note, why not start a broad, communist version of something like Prager University? (A terrible, disgustingly reactionary YT channel, I know, but it appeals a huge amount of youths and is excellently well-made – something which gives it legitimacy to people who buy into the garbage is spews). I feel tools on the Internet for communist education is a necessity for appealing to the youth, or exposing them to communism.

It'd be a good idea. Unfortunately the best we seem to get are individual cranks with their own idiot ideas (see: Maoist Rebel News) as opposed to channels run by organizations w/ people with some level of practical and political education.

I think Communist Party of Great Britain posts lectures from Communist University online, but they aren't especially slickly produced. BrendanMCooney is probably the best thing there is like that, tbh.

Guardia Rossa
18th December 2015, 18:14
Evil "kaustkist" anti-sectarian annoying rant.

That's why I think communists should unite. If not in a party, in some way to talk and communicate and struggle against capitalism together. We don't need to agree, we in fact shouldn't (Central point to my idea is theoretical renewal while staying marxist), but we shouldn't isolate ourselves either. This isolation only strengthen the bourgeois ideologues and allows for whole originally communist parties to become revisionists or reactionaries. (Which is the case of most parties in Brazil, slowly degrading into geopoliticism, revisionism, reactionarism, postmodernism, etc...)

Together, with our differences, we are stronger and might be able to exert some influence, instead of allowing the conservatives and the reactionaries to dominate the media, to make conspiracy the truth and to subvert reality.

That's what I admire in Zizek, although it shouldn't be Zizek there. He clearly has a feet in postmodern revisionism (Which is... ironic.)

I'm not a "Kautskist" or whatever that is, I just see what is happening and think it shouldn't be like this. I look at anarchists and find inspiration in them, their "theory" has many flaws but it's important to see they are strong because they take in any revolutionary that is not a reactionary (Or an evil authoritarian Marxist, although while they ignore and despise me, they don't throw me out and allow me to make my points and say my opinion)

Not like Revleft, I was marveled to find this site but after I knew the history of the site..... I'm talking about a union of communists, strengthening and developing their beliefs while debunking and expelling reactionaries, revisionists and some forms of ultras, exerting influence and fighting reactionaries in the society. I think that is what's missing. I could be wrong, but nobody suggested a structural solution to the weakness of the left, and just keep saying "Evil kaustskist" every time I say what I think.

Aslan
18th December 2015, 19:49
Maoist rebel news is the only decent YouTube channel that releases good ''quality'' content.

I'd love to see communist videos with Prager University style..

Jacob Cliff
18th December 2015, 20:30
It'd be a good idea. Unfortunately the best we seem to get are individual cranks with their own idiot ideas (see: Maoist Rebel News) as opposed to channels run by organizations w/ people with some level of practical and political education.

I think Communist Party of Great Britain posts lectures from Communist University online, but they aren't especially slickly produced. BrendanMCooney is probably the best thing there is like that, tbh.
We should put our energy into something like that, then. It sounds frivolous, but YouTube and social media is a an EXCEPTIONAL means of getting people open to new ideas and movements. Especially if we can appeal aesthetically and intellectually (which shouldn't be a problem – I'm sure there's myriad gifted animators and video editors just on this site), we'd be able to garner a great deal of legitimacy that we at least still exist as communists. And if that provokes the condemnation by larger channels, that's only better.

#FF0000
18th December 2015, 22:23
Maoist rebel news is the only decent YouTube channel that releases good ''quality'' content.

We have very different ideas of what "quality" means, I think.

That said, I don't think its a frivolous idea at all. It'd probably be a good idea if groups that release literature spent some of their resources on videos w/ 101-level content.

Aslan
18th December 2015, 23:10
We have very different ideas of what "quality" means, I think.

That said, I don't think its a frivolous idea at all. It'd probably be a good idea if groups that release literature spent some of their resources on videos w/ 101-level content.

Trust me, when I mean quality I mean that he has a good set-up. He's a moron to the point where he acts like a 13-year-old bully.

By the way, has MRN ever mentioned this website? He probably wouldn't like us.

Jacob Cliff
19th December 2015, 00:33
Let's do it then. Would a thread suffice or would it just get ignored?

Jacob Cliff
19th December 2015, 00:34
Then let's get people who may be interested in doing it to do it. Would a thread suffice, or just get ignored?

#FF0000
19th December 2015, 03:52
By the way, has MRN ever mentioned this website? He probably wouldn't like us.

He says Revleft is full of pedophile zionists lmao


Then let's get people who may be interested in doing it to do it. Would a thread suffice, or just get ignored?

To be quite honest I don't know if folks on Revleft are the best people to do this kind of thing. I don't rly trust most users to get even the basics right.

Aslan
19th December 2015, 05:14
....Anyone got Rafiq's number.....?

VukBZ2005
19th December 2015, 05:45
From what I know, guy's an "anarcho-capitalist" who thinks he can hoodwink leftists by focusing on the less obviously bug-fucking crazy aspects of his "ideology"; he also seems to attract a pretty anti-semitic crowd.
That is my general feeling on him as well. The thing with someone like him is they way they sound at times and how the weak and/or relatively new amongst us get swooned into viewing them as credible due to the convincing tone thereof. We have to be much more objective and careful with such types because they clearly have ulterior motives.

#FF0000
19th December 2015, 18:46
....Anyone got Rafiq's number.....?

yeah this is why i don't trust revleft with this.

Aslan
19th December 2015, 19:38
yeah this is why i don't trust revleft with this.

...Anyone got Noam Chomsky's number....?

Also are there any other Marxist intellectuals other than Noam Chomsky and Slavoj Zizek?

#FF0000
19th December 2015, 19:53
...Anyone got Noam Chomsky's number....?

Also are there any other Marxist intellectuals other than Noam Chomsky and Slavoj Zizek?

Yeah there's tons of writers n marxist thinkers. None as well-known as them, but yeah. Like I said though, all I think one needs is someone with a decent grasp of what they're talking about to make this content. The problem is that the folks who have an understanding and who know how to talk to laypeople are usually just making pamphlets.

Sewer Socialist
19th December 2015, 21:24
Well, I think it would be a good move for Marxist parties to make videos, but personally I prefer to talk to people one-on-one, on a personal level. There are usually local things I concern myself with; I find this much more manageable than things like writing impersonal articles, making impersonal videos about matters I do not directly experience, presenting myself as a knowledgeable authority, etc.

I also really get stressed out by debating and arguing, which seems to be what these youtube politicos do. These things have their place, but it's not for me.

I'd also feel too self-conscious to put these sorts of videos of myself on youtube for everyone to see and criticize, which would undoubtably go beyond the positions of the video and on to appearance, assumptions about my personal life... I'd have an anxiety attack.

edit - also, how is Noam Chomsky a Marxist? His criticisms of Marxism are easy to find, and a laughable mischaracterization at that.