The role of leadership

[condor]

The role of the leadership is to eliminate the need for leadership. Discuss.

[Bala Perdida]

Just eliminate the leadership in the first place. Problem solved

[The Feral Underclass]

Eliminate condor and his shitty threads.

[Comrade Jacob]

Just eliminate the leadership in the first place. Problem solved

Learn 2 dialectics.

[Bala Perdida]

Learn 2 dialectics.

It's cool. I already know how to re-tell things that already happened

[John Nada]

Learn 2 dialectics.It's cool. I already know how to re-tell things that already happenedFirst as a tragedy, the second a farce.:)

[ckaihatsu]

'Cause the emergent hands-off, market-based approach has worked so well so far....


(8^p

[Zoop]

Good luck getting leadership to destroy itself.

[ckaihatsu]

Good luck getting leadership to destroy itself.


Maybe it's a genetic-physiological thing or something, but people seem to have a knee-jerk inclination towards seeing 'leadership' as immutably being akin to 'dictatorship', or at least to 'one-person rule'.

As I noted in my previous post this kind of thing, overall, *is* either-or -- either we continue in a 'hands-off' fashion, leaving the day-to-day functioning of material matters to the 'invisible hand', or else we take-hold and invoke some kind of *conscious* decision-making and implementation, of whatever form.

I, for one, *don't* see decision-making as necessitating hierarchy -- I'm on-record on it, *and* I have a model for that as well.... But first:





I'm more than a little surprised that so many are so concerned about a vanguard organization's potential for "hanging onto power" after a revolution is completed. In my conceptualization the vanguard would be all about mobilizing and coordinating the various ongoing realtime aspects of a revolution in progress, most notably mass industrial union strategies and political offensives and defenses relative to the capitalists' forces.

*By definition* a victorious worldwide proletarian revolution would *push past* the *objective need* for this airport-control-tower mechanism of the vanguard, for the basic fact that there would no longer be any class enemy to coordinate *against*. Its entire function would be superseded by the mass revolution's success and transforming of society.




http://tinyurl.com/ckaihatsu-vanguardism


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consumption [demand] -- Every person in a locality has a standard, one-through-infinity ranking system of political demands available to them, updated daily




consumption [demand] -- Basic human needs will be assigned a higher political priority by individuals and will emerge as mass demands at the cumulative scale -- desires will benefit from political organizing efforts and coordination




http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1174

[Guardia Rossa]

The role of the leadership is to eliminate the need for leadership. Discuss.


I wonder how condor survived so far, I could get into conspiracies and say he is a mod baiting for reactionaries.

[Comrade Jacob]

It's cool. I already know how to re-tell things that already happened

Just like all those anarchist revolutions lol

[ckaihatsu]

I wonder how condor survived so far,


If you die on RevLeft you also die in real life.


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[condor]

I am deeply distrustful of leaders (even though I admire many of them) but i understand their reason to exist.

Leaders must have no privilege, especially the privilege to expel other members.

Once the workers have overcome their disorientation, however, I see no reason for them to exist.

[ckaihatsu]

I am deeply distrustful of leaders (even though I admire many of them) but i understand their reason to exist.

Leaders must have no privilege, especially the privilege to expel other members.

Once the workers have overcome their disorientation, however, I see no reason for them to exist.


What are 'members', exactly -- ?

(And, more importantly, does the club have a spa?)


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