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karlkropotkin
5th December 2015, 12:19
I'm a young revolutionary and joined this forum to follow and take part in discussions with fellow comrades & to find out where exactly I fit in politically, as I really can't decide whether I'm an anarcho-communist or a marxist-leninist. I believe in uniting all anarchists, communists and other sorts of revolutionary leftists in order to defeat the monster that capitalism is despite of different ideas of how a revolution should be done. Other than that I'm antifascist and pro refugees.

Q
5th December 2015, 16:49
Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

Both attracted to anarcho-communism and marxist-leninism? Interesting.

The Idler
5th December 2015, 21:25
Haha yes welcome, I too find that interesting. Good username too!

Црвена
5th December 2015, 23:34
Willkommen zum Forum! Jetzt wirst du wahrscheinlich nicht in eine Richtung genau passen, aber es wird klar werden, wenn du mehr liest und mehr politische Arbeit machst.

Wie ist die politische Linke in der Schweiz; gibt es dort viele Kommunisten? Vermutlich nicht :)

(Ich hoffe, dass mein Deutsch verständlich ist :/)

Q
6th December 2015, 00:45
S/He could be speaking French, Italian or even Romansh, you know ;)

Црвена
6th December 2015, 09:54
C'est vrai, mais j'ai deviné qu'il/elle parle l'allemand parce que c'est la langue la plus parlée en Suisse. J'espère que ma supposition était correcte ! :s

That's true, but I guessed that s/he speaks German since it's the most spoken language in Switzerland. I hope my guess was correct!

Ok, now I'm just showing off.

Бай Ганьо
6th December 2015, 10:08
"J'ai deviné" implies that OP confirmed your guess, which is not the case (yet). ^^

Armchair Partisan
6th December 2015, 10:14
RJZ = Revolutionäre Jugend Zürich, which is some evidence towards the 'German-speaker theory'.

DOOM
6th December 2015, 11:04
endlich bini ned dr einzig schwizer do haha :) willkome

et pour les romands, la meme chose :laugh:

DOOM
6th December 2015, 11:06
Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

Both attracted to anarcho-communism and marxist-leninism? Interesting.
As far as I can tell there are some ancoms in the RJZ, the common denominator being anti-imperialism.

karlkropotkin
6th December 2015, 12:16
RJZ = Revolutionäre Jugend Zürich, which is some evidence towards the 'German-speaker theory'.
I live in a Romansh/Italian/German speaking part of Switzerland but spend a lot of time in Zürich where I go to RJZ protests as often as I can which is why I listed RJZ.


C'est vrai, mais j'ai deviné qu'il/elle parle l'allemand parce que c'est la langue la plus parlée en Suisse. J'espère que ma supposition était correcte ! :s

That's true, but I guessed that s/he speaks German since it's the most spoken language in Switzerland. I hope my guess was correct!

Ok, now I'm just showing off.

I can't speak even the slightest bit of French as I decided to take Italian classes at school instead as I could already to speak basic Italian and didn't want to go through the hassle of learning an additional language as I already had 4 languages at school at that point :unsure:. But most people in Switzerland speak at least basic German as schools here are multi-lingual so your guess was correct :grin:


S/He could be speaking French, Italian or even Romansh, you know ;)

French is the only official language in Switzerland I can't speak :grin:


Willkommen zum Forum! Jetzt wirst du wahrscheinlich nicht in eine Richtung genau passen, aber es wird klar werden, wenn du mehr liest und mehr politische Arbeit machst.

Wie ist die politische Linke in der Schweiz; gibt es dort viele Kommunisten? Vermutlich nicht :)

(Ich hoffe, dass mein Deutsch verständlich ist :/)
Dein Deutsch ist perfekt :) Die politische Linke in der Schweiz besteht grösstenteils aus Sozialdemokraten, welche auch die 2. grösste Partei hier sind. Das Jugendplenum der Sozialdemokraten nennt sich selbst "Jungsozialisten", obwohl sie ganz klar Sozialdemokraten sind. ( Unpolitische Hooligans") über die RJZ zeigen sehr gut auf wo sie politisch positioniert sind.) Abgesehen von den SP besteht das linke Spektrum in der Schweiz aus der der Alternativen Liste, der Alternativen Linke und der Partei der Arbeit. Dort wo ich wohne (in einem Alpendorf) bin ich der einzige noch lebende Kommunist soweit ich weiss (früher lebte hier ein Kommunist welcher den Partisanen mit Waffenlieferungen half). In der Deutschschweiz gibt es eine revolutionäre Szene (Revolutionärer Aufbau). Die Partei der Arbeit hat bei den Wahlen 2015, vor Allem dank der Westschweiz, 0.8% der Stimmen und somit 1 Nationalratssitz erhalten.


Haha yes welcome, I too find that interesting. Good username too!
Thanks! I spent a lot of time thinking about a good username and ended up choosing this one because I like both Marx and Kropotkin (I haven't read anything by them yet but I like their views and what I read in the summaries of their works)


Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

Both attracted to anarcho-communism and marxist-leninism? Interesting.
It might not make too much sense that I'm attracted to both anarcho-communism and and marxism-leninism at first glance, but I feel like both positions have good arguments. I think anarcho-communism would work (like it did in Spain) but it wouldn't be able to defend itself against counterrevolutionaries and other political foces (like it happened in Spain). However, if for some reason the situation would be given for anarcho-communism to exist without it being overthrown I wouldn't see a problem with it. Marxism-leninism is thus my more "realistic" choice, however the establishing of a vanguard party led socialist state could bare the risk that the communist society will never be reached, instead the socialist state will be the "final" state. All of this could be wrong though, as I haven't yet had the time to actually read any books written by communists and all the knowledge I have regarding the subject is taken from youtube videos, internet sites and conversations with my best friend who's a communist.

endlich bini ned dr einzig schwizer do haha :) willkome

et pour les romands, la meme chose :laugh:
Schön z wüsse dass ich da ned de einzig schwizer bin, han mer scho kli sorge gmacht cha :lol:

As far as I can tell there are some ancoms in the RJZ, the common denominator being anti-imperialism.

I might be wrong but from what I've seen/heard there isn't really an ideology all RJZ members share, despite of the RAZ being marxist-leninist. For example there where people chanting "Hoch auf die [I]antinationale Solidarität" instead of internationale Solidarität. However, I'm not very experienced regarding the RJZ and have so far only been to one "meeting".

DOOM
6th December 2015, 12:58
ah e Bündner :D

antinational as in the german antinational movement?

Comrade Jacob
6th December 2015, 13:40
Willkommen!

maxaitor
6th December 2015, 14:11
Welcome.

karlkropotkin
6th December 2015, 18:18
ah e Bündner :D

antinational as in the german antinational movement?
Ursprünglich en Zürcher aber als chind nach Graubünde zoge (leider) ^^ Vo wo chusch du?
I assume they meant antinational in an anarchist sense, as in opposing all states/nations. If you're referring to the German anti-german movement I don't think I've ever met someone who supports it. From what I've seen RJZ members/allies are usually anti-capitalist, pro pkk, antifa/anti conservative.

Aslan
6th December 2015, 20:01
Romansh is a weird ass language so I suppose just ciao will suffice! welcome to Revleft!

Kropotkin1
6th December 2015, 20:12
hoi,

han au denkt das ich de einzig ben, gset aber so us als chönte mer scho fast en eigene subforum für üs ha. luzern het aschinend gar kei kommuniste, weder alternative liste, no alternative linke, no PdA

Kropotkin1
6th December 2015, 20:27
hoi
han au denkt das ich de einzig ben, chöntet aber fascht scho es eigenes subforum becho:laugh: . in luzern hets aschinend gar kei kommuniste :(

DOOM
6th December 2015, 21:24
Ursprünglich en Zürcher aber als chind nach Graubünde zoge (leider) ^^ Vo wo chusch du?
I assume they meant antinational in an anarchist sense, as in opposing all states/nations. If you're referring to the German anti-german movement I don't think I've ever met someone who supports it. From what I've seen RJZ members/allies are usually anti-capitalist, pro pkk, antifa/anti conservative.

Aargauer :)

Yeah that's why I was wondering, because even if there were any anti-germans / antionationals here they wouldn't be in the RJZ, as they're not really known for tolerating anti-german or similar positions lol.

karlkropotkin
9th December 2015, 18:45
hoi,

han au denkt das ich de einzig ben, gset aber so us als chönte mer scho fast en eigene subforum für üs ha. luzern het aschinend gar kei kommuniste, weder alternative liste, no alternative linke, no PdA
Denn simmer ja scho z 3. :lol: Eigedlich chömer ja e gruppe da uf revleft gründe. In Graubünde hets au weder Alternativi Liste, Alternativi Linki, no PdA. (Wobi - "Wer leit üs id chiste? D alternaitiv liste!" :grin:) Ich wüsst au sust wo keine kommuniste, viellicht hets in davos oder in chur welchi. I minem dorf het mal en partisan glebt aber de isch scho lang tot :crying:.

Guardia Rossa
9th December 2015, 19:27
Benvenuto, compagno!

Buon nome e interesting ideas (I kinda share them with you, although more cynically)

Pardon my italian, I have forgot most of it (And I don't know if "Buon" is correct)

DOOM
9th December 2015, 21:34
Kommunistischi Internationali (Marx-Engels-Lenin-Matter) - sektion chuchichästli? :D