"Scathing Report" on Cuba

[redstar2000]

A United Nations envoy has published a scathing report on Cuba's treatment of political dissidents in prison.

The envoy, French judge Christine Chanet, was appointed by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights to look into alleged human rights abuses.

Ms Chanet described reports that dissidents were being held in "trying" conditions as "particularly alarming".

Ms Chanet has not yet received permission to visit Cuba.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/3495075.stm

That's their version; here's mine...

A cynical old communist has published a scathing report of French treatment of young offenders.

The old communist bastard, Redstar2000, read a couple of news stories about the subject several years ago.

He said that the reports of kids as young as 12 being held in "trying conditions" is "particularly alarming".

Redstar2000 has not yet received permission to visit France.

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.vze.com)
A site about communist ideas

[Y2A]

This is a UN report not a BBC report. <_<

Check out this evil propaganda from your own source:

The UN report also attacked the 40-year US trade blockade against Cuba.

There a propaganda machine I tell ya&#33;

And this is what the UN report was attacking

More than 70 opponents of veteran leader Fidel Castro were arrested last April and handed lengthy jail terms.

So it&#39;s quite fair to say it was a "Scathing Report".

[Fidelbrand]

Fidel said,

"You can tour the U.S, Europe, and Latin America, and I doubt that you&#39;ll find a more humane penitentiary system. Now, a prison isn&#39;t a tourist hotel; being in a prison isn&#39;t anything like being on a vacation, in Cuba or anywhere else."

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"But I will say that around 800 individuals are in prison now for having carried out counter-revolutionary activities of greater or lesser importance; there are a few dozen in for serious crimes, serving long terms for crimes comitted under the system, but there aren&#39;t many of them, because we &#39;ve been setting them free. When Carter was president, there were 3000, and we set 2000 free."

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"Visiting priviledges can be withdrawn upon bad behaviour... If a prisoner doesn&#39;t want to get dressed, we do not use violence; we use some disciplinary measures, but not violence. They may have had that kind of difficulty."

all quoted from "An ecounter with Fidel"
An interview by Gianni Mina
Translated by Mary Todd.

[Fidelbrand]

Every country has to enact their own laws against treason, subversion.

Lengthy imprisonments may be just, more just for a country like Cuba, that holds strong love for its revolutionary cause and has provided concrete results that nourishes her people&#39;s bodies and souls.

[RED CHARO]

I agree with redstar and fidel brand-
The prisions in Cuba; there talking about Guantanamo bay right?

[Y2A]

UN reports are usually un-bias. I&#39;ll talk more later, gotta go.

[toastedmonkey]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:34 PM
Every country has to enact their own laws against treason, subversion.
in the UK that great bastion for Imperialism, you can still be hung for treason against the crown.

[Iepilei]

Good ol cheap filler stories make the newspaper almost not worth buying in the morning. It&#39;s the same American-Action movie tripe. People buy into this because it gives them a sense for how much greater they are than some little repressed socialist nation.

Search the globe. You&#39;ll find harsher prison systems all over the place.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:34 PM



Every country has to enact their own laws against treason, subversion.

Lengthy imprisonments may be just, more just for a country like Cuba, that holds strong love for its revolutionary cause and has provided concrete results that nourishes her people&#39;s bodies and souls.

Hitler could have argued the same thing in defence of his treatment of the Jews.


in the UK that great bastion for Imperialism, you can still be hung for treason against the crown

Supposedly, but it&#39;ll never happen nowadays, though. If this law was taken seriously, George Galloway would be swinging from the gallows (pun intended) by now.

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 17 2004, 05:36 PM
Hitler could have argued the same thing in defence of his treatment of the Jews.


One is imprisonment with rehabilitation, chance for freedom and for life. While the other is ultimate death and humilation.
One is similar to a kind of self-defense mechanism, while the other attacks defenseless people.

See the disparity in "treatments" ?

Bit of a presupposing there (can&#39;t blame you), but... nice try~ :ph34r:

[Fidel Castro]

you can still be hung for treason against the crown.

FUCK THE QUEEN AND HER WHOLE INBRED FAMILY OF SPONGING BASTARDS&#33; DOWN WITH THE CROWN&#33; VIVA LA BRITTANIA REPUBLIC&#33;

I DETEST THE MONARCHY, FRANCE HAD THE RIGHT IDEA&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

Your majesty, I await your response :lol:


As for the Cuban human-rights situation, all I can say is if the USA moved out from Guantanamo Bay, then human rights would be a hell of a lot better in Cuba&#33;

[ernestolynch]

Originally posted by toastedmonkey+Feb 17 2004, 01:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (toastedmonkey @ Feb 17 2004, 01:18 PM)
[email protected] 17 2004, 12:34 PM
Every country has to enact their own laws against treason, subversion.
in the UK that great bastion for Imperialism, you can still be hung for treason against the crown. [/b]
That&#39;s not been true for about 15 years. The usual punishment is to be shot in the head with a plastic bullet, or handed over to Loyalist Death Squads.

[Fidel Castro]

The usual punishment is to be shot in the head with a plastic bullet, or handed over to Loyalist Death Squads.

Only in Northern Ireland mate, in which case you can also run the risk of being shot with more than just a plastic bullet if you are a loyalist. Both sides over there have legitimate arguments, but some people are just animals.