Anonymous declares war on ISIS

[RedKobra]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/paris-attacks-anonymous-launches-its-biggest-operation-ever-against-isis-promises-to-hunt-down-a6735811.html?


interesting, if politically controversial, move by the group.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/paris-attacks-anonymous-launches-its-biggest-operation-ever-against-isis-promises-to-hunt-down-a6735811.html?


interesting, if politically controversial, move by the group.

Actually, if I can refind their link, their spreading "how-to" info about how anyone can expose ISIL linked accounts on social media too.

[Comrade #138672]

Getting tired of Anonymous.

[Tim Cornelis]

What a joke. Why do people take this seriously?

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Because doing something is hard and convincing yourself that your "hacktivism" means something is the easier way (see also: all of the "Facebook caused the Arab Spring" narratives).

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Because doing something is hard and convincing yourself that your "hacktivism" means something is the easier way (see also: all of the "Facebook caused the Arab Spring" narratives).

Ok so there is someone who got a 105 year prison sentence for hacktivism. ISIL uses social media as a means to conduct business. They posted shit 72 hours before the Paris attacks. Maybe you both should stop this contrarian foolishness, step into 2015, and realize it's not 1938; the world works a lil diff now.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Let me know when Anonymous goes and fights alongside the Kurds.

[Lord Testicles]

Oh no, ISIS will have to set up another twitter account.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Ironically, they delivered the message while wearing a Fawkes mask, a man willing to blow people up so his religion would be dominant.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Let me know when Anonymous goes and fights alongside the Kurds.

No leftist group is doing this in the entire world so I guess everything is rendered invalid. Better pack up those party newspapers friend.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Oh no, ISIS will have to set up another twitter account.

We don't all have the resources to make fancy shirts and flyers.

[Comrade Jacob]

Woah, watch out guyz. Anonymous are gunna bring down ISIS.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Woah, watch out guyz. Anonymous are gunna bring down ISIS.

If they fucked up telegraph communications would it be more significant for you?

[Comrade Jacob]

If they fucked up telegraph communications would it be more significant for you?

I guess.

[Invader Zim]

Woah, watch out guyz. Anonymous are gunna bring down ISIS.

While I get the sarcasm, and kind of agree with the point, beyond petitioning their various governments to do something (quite what, who knows?) there isn't a great deal that they can do. If they can make life difficult for ISIS webmasters and propagandists, then good for them. It isn't going to make a huge difference, true, but given that ISIS is also a media-driven organisation, for whom communication is a key part of their strategy, if these people can mess with that then, again, good for them.

[ckaihatsu]

Next up: Anonymous takes on Saudi Arabia.

(ftw)


= D

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

While I get the sarcasm, and kind of agree with the point, beyond petitioning their various governments to do something (quite what, who knows?) there isn't a great deal that they can do. If they can make life difficult for ISIS webmasters and propagandists, then good for them. It isn't going to make a huge difference, true, but given that ISIS is also a media-driven organisation, for whom communication is a key part of their strategy, if these people can mess with that then, again, good for them.

But see they can or at least have the potential too considering it's already been confirmed that ISIL is big on social media. It's also been rumored they've been using ps4 and gaming consoles as a means to communicate. So in all actuality Anon does have the potential too seriously fuck with ISIL. Cyber attacks aren't a joke. Not to mention leaking and obtaining secret information like how Turkey and others are buying ISIL oil giving them a profit of roughly 2 million a day. I mean, technically, people trolling online gaming communities initiated a trend of calling cops to watch them raid your opponents actual house irl.

[ckaihatsu]

Not to mention leaking and obtaining secret information like how Turkey and others are buying ISIL oil giving them a profit of roughly 2 million a day.


Annnnnnd now we know, so, dialectically, Anonymous has just outlived its usefulness.

[khad]

Oh no, ISIS will have to set up another twitter account.
Well, hey, now that ISIS now has sleeper cells in the West (supposedly), they might actually find themselves on the front lines.

Ain't that a funny thought?

Remember, kids, it's all fun and games until someone loses his head!

[Comrade #138672]

if these people can mess with that then, again, good for them.So let them do that instead of making yet another lame video on how they are going to take revenge. Anonymous does not forget or forgive. We get it. However, until they actually do something, I am not interested.

[BIXX]

I just don't see anonymous as being serious seeing as anonymous is just anyone who claims "membership" to anonymous.

Eta: I do recognize the usefulness of hacktivism tho I just get irritated by the anonymous crowd

[ckaihatsu]

Well, hey, now that ISIS now has sleeper cells in the West (supposedly), they might actually find themselves on the front lines.

Ain't that a funny thought?

Remember, kids, it's all fun and games until someone loses his head!


Maybe we can get the Kurds to protect the U.S. borders, if we ask them nicely.


= D

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

No leftist group is doing this in the entire world so I guess everything is rendered invalid. Better pack up those party newspapers friend.
Only Anonymous is going on like Internet hard men about how they're coming for IS.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I don't think they'd do it if they thought that real physical harm might come to them. I remember their aborted declaration of war on Mexico's drug trafficking organizations, for example

[Full Metal Bolshevik]

Ironically, they delivered the message while wearing a Fawkes mask, a man willing to blow people up so his religion would be dominant.
Symbolically the mask doesn't mean that. But you know that you just prefer to use any stupid shit against them.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Symbolically the mask doesn't mean that. But you know that you just prefer to use any stupid shit against them.
What does the mask mean then? Other then being borrowed from a comic book made into a film?

[Zoop]

What does the mask mean then? Other then being borrowed from a comic book made into a film?

It has come to symbolise resistance and anti-authoritarianism, which is based on Alan Moore and David Lloyd's character in V for Vendetta, not the actual Guy Fawkes.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

It has come to symbolise resistance and anti-authoritarianism, which is based on Alan Moore and David Lloyd's character in V for Vendetta, not the actual Guy Fawkes.
Yes, I know what it's based on, but it's still a fucking joke. Anyone who's read the comic book or seen the film knows V kidnaps and tortures a woman so she can become more like him, all while wearing the mask of a religious terrorist. Great work of fiction, mind you, but not what I would consider a symbol of anti-authoritarianism.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

From Wikipedia: "According to Time in 2011, the protesters' adoption of the mask had led to it becoming the top-selling item on Amazon.com, selling hundreds of thousands a year. Time Warner, one of the largest media companies in the world, owns the rights to the image and is paid a fee with the sale of each official mask." Tell me again about how it symbolizes resistance (to what, exactly?).

[Zoop]

Yes, I know what it's based on, but it's still a fucking joke. Anyone who's read the comic book or seen the film knows V kidnaps and tortures a woman so she can become more like him, all while wearing the mask of a religious terrorist. Great work of fiction, mind you, but not what I would consider a symbol of anti-authoritarianism.

Maybe you don't, but that is what it has come to symbolise.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Maybe you don't, but that is what it has come to symbolise.
And the Amazon.com and Time Warner capitalists thank them for it.

[Zoop]

And the Amazon.com and Time Warner capitalists thank them for it.

I'm sure they do.

Completely irrelevant to the symbolism people associate with the mask, which is what we are talking about.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Completely irrelevant to the symbolism people associate with the mask, which is what we are talking about.
Mainly because many people have no clue who Fawkes actually was, and quite a few people might not even know he was a historical figure but just see him as the fictional V character. So of course people are going to make the wrong associations based on pop culture, which in this case, turns out to be ironic.

[Zoop]

Mainly because many people have no clue who Fawkes actually was, and quite a few people might not even know he was a historical figure but just see him as the fictional V character. So of course people are going to make the wrong associations based on pop culture, which in this case, turns out to be ironic.

And we're back to square one. It isn't a "wrong" association. It has taken on a whole new meaning, which has very little to do with the actual Fawkes, so people make new associations (associations endorsed by Moore and Lloyd by the way), and these are just as legitimate, because it is a completely separate character.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

And we're back to square one. It isn't a "wrong" association. It has taken on a whole new meaning, which has very little to do with the actual Fawkes, so people make new associations (associations endorsed by Moore and Lloyd by the way), and these are just as legitimate.
I stand by my opinion. Wearing the mask of a religious terrorist to denounce religious terrorism is ironic. And, honestly, most anarchists I know think the Fawkes mask is just as daft as I do. Our opinion is valid, whether you like it or not.

[Comrade #138672]

I'm sure they do.

Completely irrelevant to the symbolism people associate with the mask, which is what we are talking about.I too have personal associations with the mask, however they are not very positive. I have seen too many people use the mask while upholding really reactionary politics. So it is wrong to assume that it can only symbolize "anti-authoritarianism" in a necessarily positive way.

[Ele'ill]

I don't think much of 'anonymous' or 'hacktivism'. However electronic warfare is a thing. iirc wasn't there a thread to a cnn piece on how isis is making attempts to hack the us power grid? It can and probably is going the other direction, and I'd imagine the people on gov payroll doing this stuff are pretty much the same as the people who are not on gov payroll doing it.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/15/technology/isis-energy-grid/
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2552766

[BIXX]

Actually that makes me think of something, what exactly is hacktivism?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Actually that makes me think of something, what exactly is hacktivism?

This guy is a good example I suppose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hammond

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Actually, if I can refind their link, their spreading "how-to" info about how anyone can expose ISIL linked accounts on social media too.


Getting tired of Anonymous.


What a joke. Why do people take this seriously?

SHHHH SHHH be quiet, if you speak too loudly some 17 year old savant whose good at coding and who used his pocket money to buy a guy fawkes mask will throw down a DoS hammer on RevLeft, and maybe doxx the mods.

All hail great Anonymous, the [future] conquerors of ISIS, bringers of the global communist utopia, and the fulfillers of all history.

[PhoenixAsh]

....closed several thousand ISIS twitter accounts.

A new twitter account takes all but 1 minute to make.

[Vee]

can anonymous do anything but shut down the social media accounts? it is very easy to make a new one. ISIS has supporters internationally and that's ignoring vpn services so not even an ip ban can stop them.