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Abdullah Tshabal
1st November 2015, 22:28
Hello. I am from the city of Hillbrow, a suburb of Johannesburg composed of a multitude of pre-fab high rises and known for its population density and less-than-desirable history (And to an extent, its present). It has a density of 70,000 people per km2, though it's just a bit more than a square kilometer in size. Of course, I've lived through the city (as well as the rest of South Africa) within the last 20-odd years through its history of post-Apartheid development and collapse, depression and delight, near-death and revival, etc. In 2008 I went to the United States, more specifically into Dallas, Texas and lived there for 5 years. To say the least, Dallas is radically different from Johannesburg in literally every way concievable. I moved back in late 2013 thankfully and even then after my eventual return across the ocean AGAIN, my hometown had yet again changed. I had left Johannesburg during a moment when it was in it's death throes, on the brink of becoming a version of Detroit with high-rise apartment blocks. When I returned, the city had taken on a new life and is still in the process of urban renewal. Though there certainly still exist some "less-than-ideal" parts, the city as a whole has become essentially the African counterpart of New York City, except without the unholy level of American-style suburbanization, prices and rampant out-of-control Islamophobia.

On the political end, most of my viewpoints began to grow during the later years of high school. Despite being in one of the most Conservative states in the US, I had grown and maintained a far-left political standing. Most of it did indeed grow during college to a far more greater level. I had not participated in any political acts in the US, because not being a citizen barred me from voting and the candidates (Romney vs Obama 2012) were both ****S. One was less of a **** than the other, but still both were. Obama is in office and he is doing a rather shit job of running things. Unfortunately however, even as I'm not a fan of Obama by any stretch of the imagination, most people who dislike Obama have opposite reasons as to why. Such as the "NOBama" slogan which if I'm correct originated in South Africa during a metric asston of protests against Obama for being a war-criminal, useing drone strikes and kissing Israel's ass. Obviously no longer being in South Africa at the time, the first instances I saw of "NObama" was a bunch of distorted anti-communist, Islamophobic and hate propaganda. Indeed, just the boundary which is the Atlantic Ocean creates two radically opposite extremities of political viewpoints, doesn't it? I like to sort of think of colleges in the USA as little oases of left-wing havens in a desert of staunch conservativism and hate.

Of course, now finally back in the "lovely" environment of an urbanized environment of Johannesburg, I have direct and firm stances on several issues (those which I am well-informed on at least) as well as a place for leftism to flourish. In case you don't know, Gauteng is a province (It's the one where the cities of Johannebsurg and Pretoria are) where a quarter of the country lives stuffed into an area slightly smaller than Israel. Though at least half of the Gauteng province is probably uninhabited and centralized in the multitude of major cities. And mentioning Israel, I fully agree with all of the complaints, arguments and the Apartheid Analogy directed against it. While also here I committed to religious conversion as well. Needless to say, it has further enforced my left-wing standing (Such as communism/socialism and technocracy).

Q
1st November 2015, 23:09
Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

It looks like you've had quite a journey behind you already, both in a literal sense, but more importantly politically and in your development as a human. I'd love to see your contributions on this board :)

Aslan
2nd November 2015, 00:15
Welcome friend! Nice to see an African revolutionary such as yourself! Yes Texas is quite the hellhole to live in, but back to the point. What is south Africa like politically? I remember that Nelson Mandela was a former Communist revolutionary. So how is communism general treated in mainstream society over there?

bricolage
2nd November 2015, 01:39
Welcome. It's always interesting to speak to comrades from South Africa.
Are you actually in the EFF, WASP and SACP though? Isn't that a bit contradictory?

Abdullah Tshabal
2nd November 2015, 01:47
In a political sense, South Africa is a left to far-left leaning country for the most part. Seeing as it operates under a parliament and there are dozens of political parties and groups in existence, support changes drastically. Such as the SACP membership going up from 150,000 to 220,000+ within a year because people are becoming discontent with the current ruling party and for similiar reasons, yet anohter Marxist-Leninist party formed just 2 years ago (the Economic Freedom Fighters or EFF) and was able to take its place in the 2014 elections. It didn't win but despite its young age, it's the 3rd largest political party in the nation. Support was gained due to promises of nationalizing the mining industry, free healthcare and education, better housing, higher wages, etc. However, the voters here are also to blame because they keep voting mostly for either the ANC or the DA (Both are bad but one is worse than the other) since the Apartheid regime collapsed.

As for the general perception of communism, it varies. While people usually have a more friendlier attitude to socialism and communism in South Africa, there is a growing conservative trend (How ironic.) and which mostly comprises of blaming the country's problems on communism or the blacks and calling anyone even slightly critical of Israel as an anti-Semite. Though we DO have free speech and a lengthy constitution, probably one of the best in the world, more constitutional rights entitled means more of the said rights that get violated. Hate speech is illegal under South African law (Though it only extends to mass media such as newspapers, TV, radio and news articles on the Internet, not to people commenting, Facebook posts or 8-year olds in Call of Duty shouting the N-word every 5 seconds). Fortunately we don't have hate marches or armed Nazi rallies in the streets of big cities anymore. The SACP (South African Communist Party) is one of the most highly critical of Israel's Apartheid and a library's worth of war crimes, which has in itself contributed to the growth of far-leftist ideals in the country, despite the opposing right-wing and Zionism. Few other factors also influence the political views in the nation such as the exponential growth of Islam and better/more affordable access to the Internet.

Abdullah Tshabal
2nd November 2015, 01:50
I'm not IN the EFF/WASP or the SACP per se, other than the fact I voted EFF in the 2014 elections. I don't think it is necessarily contradictory as they share many of the same ideals. Now what WOULD be contradictory if I was supporting the ANC and/or the ACDP while simultaneously supporting the far-left parties (like the EFF or WASP).

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
2nd November 2015, 12:02
Hello,

It's nice to see someone from South Africa. I've actually lived in the country, very briefly, in the mid-2000s, near New Brighton. I don't know if I would agree with you that South Africa leans to the left - at least that's not the impression I got years ago. Obviously there is a lot of anger on part of black workers, and it's getting worse with police massacres and so on. But most of the black workers still seem to back the ANC, the black frontmen of the new apartheid. There is a tiny black bourgeoisie, mostly concentrated in Pretoria from what I've seen, but this means nothing to most of the black workers. Homophobia seemed to be pretty bad, particularly when it came to lesbians.

The EFF, again, I'm not sure I would share your enthusiasm for the party. Not only was it founded by a member of the ANC after he lost power, but it has drawn in some people involved in attacks on immigrants (another pretty major issue in SA, from my experience). I think the accusations of fascism coming from some quarters are ludicrous, but it's a problematic party. WASP is pretty middle-of-the-road-ish. It's an attempt by the CWI to build some sort of mass party, and given its nature as a coalition of disparate groups, it's probably going to fall apart some time in the future.

Comrade Jacob
2nd November 2015, 12:24
Greetings.:)

Aslan
3rd November 2015, 02:43
How is the relationship between the Boer/Anglo-South-Africans and the majority of South Africa? Are the whites still racist towards native Africans?

Abdullah Tshabal
3rd November 2015, 05:12
The relationships are more or less normal as they would be elsewhere. However (Yes, THAT word again), media even here distorts the truth and tries to paint a picture of an impending genocide. Most of the hate crimes and activities are isolated incidents.

bricolage
3rd November 2015, 15:27
I'm not IN the EFF/WASP or the SACP per se, other than the fact I voted EFF in the 2014 elections. I don't think it is necessarily contradictory as they share many of the same ideals. Now what WOULD be contradictory if I was supporting the ANC and/or the ACDP while simultaneously supporting the far-left parties (like the EFF or WASP).
I'd have to disagree about the SACP here. I've always seen them as just an appendage of the ANC, but I'm now pretty much in agreement with Motlanthe that they are the same thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYgcY9TTktg&feature=share).

Abdullah Tshabal
26th April 2016, 03:30
I never mentioned how I came across Revleft (Yeah this thread is kind of old now). I was looking up stuff along the likes of "Fuck The Suburbs" or "Suburbia Sucks" on Google. The latter well, directly brought me here to a really old thread indeed titled "Suburbia Sucks!". But that thread is from like 2009 :(