Turkish Elections: AKP wins surprising majority, leftist HDP secures seats

[RedSonRising]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/01/turkey-election-2015-live-updates

Troubling.

[khad]

And expected result. Then again, the best kept non-secret of the HDP is that, proportionally, it has almost as many Islamists as the AKP. It wouldn't be surprising if these contributed to the swing votes.

http://i.imgur.com/s4t4H8v.jpg

Do you think the state should be secular?

CHP 92.7%
MHP 90.1%
HDP 55.3%
AKP 52.1%
SP 23.8%

Just one of the many pitfalls of doing politics in Turkey.

[khad]

http://secim.aa.com.tr/indexeng.html Interactive map of election results, by province

Mouse over the HDP-dominant areas (purple). Look at what party is comfortably in second place there.

[Emmett Till]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/01/turkey-election-2015-live-updates

Troubling.

Basically, what happened is that half the voters for the far right wing "nationalist" party, really closet fascists, swung over to Erdogan, as he is doing what they like best, killing Kurds. This is not a political right turn really. If it hadn't happened, he'd probably just have formed a coalition government with them. So, no real change. If anything, the decline of the Gray Wolf party is a positive development.

[khad]

Basically, what happened is that half the voters for the far right wing "nationalist" party, really closet fascists, swung over to Erdogan, as he is doing what they like best, killing Kurds. This is not a political right turn really. If it hadn't happened, he'd probably just have formed a coalition government with them. So, no real change. If anything, the decline of the Gray Wolf party is a positive development.
About 4% from the MHP and 2.5% from the HDP. That's right, the 2nd party in the Kurdish regions is the AKP.

Let me spell it out so it's clear here, because apparently leading people to the answer in the previous posts was not adequate. Proportionally, the HDP has almost as many Islamist voters as the AKP - there is a serious conservative Kurdish demographic that swung back to the AKP over the last 4 months (how popular do you think the PKK is in Islamist circles?). The hard line taken against the PKK taken by the AKP enticed MHP voters into the fold. This accounts for the bulk of the AKP's sudden surge in popularity.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/images/content/polls--2.jpg

[Devrim]

It's not the expected result at all. Most of the polls were predicting that AKP would get about 43% of the vote, which would not have given them a majority in parliament. This result is quite a surprise.

Also I'm not sure what your point about HDP is.

Devrim

[hexaune]

The international monitors have found the elections to have been unfair, in between the attacks on HDP politicians and premises and the stifling of the press, its no surprise really that the AK party did better this time round I suppose.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/02/turkeys-elections-campaign-unfair-say-international-monitors


International observers of Turkey’s parliamentary elections have criticised the climate of violence and fear that preceded the vote, saying the security environment, arrests of opposition activists and stifling of press freedoms combined to make the campaign unfair.

[Burzhuin]

I tried to figure out the political spectrum in Turkey and could not. It seems to me there is no left other than Communist Party (1920).

[Devrim]

I tried to figure out the political spectrum in Turkey and could not. It seems to me there is no left other than Communist Party (1920).

This part no longer exists.

Devrim

[Rafiq]

Perhaps we might consider the reality that the AKP in Turkey, as it is with Fidesz and New Russia, have become institutionally necessary parties for capital in their respective states, and we can see this for the simple reason that violence, or at least the widespread threat of it followed the news that the AKP may lose power.

It may be a stretch - is it possible that for even a liberal party to gain power in Turkey today, this would require over-reaching political changes in relation to - for example, Turkey's relation to global capital, European and middle eastern politics, etc. ?

[Sasha]

I tried to figure out the political spectrum in Turkey and could not. It seems to me there is no left other than Communist Party (1920).

Parties with seats in parlaiment

CHP secular nationalist center (with a smitter of soc-dem)
MHP extreme right
HDP green, democratic-socialist, kurdish
AKP islamist

There are hundreds of smaller parties many communist of various shades

And then there are armed groups, most notably the pkk (kurdish), dhkp/c (alevi nationalist m/l), mlkp (hoxaist)

[Burzhuin]

Parties with seats in parlaiment

CHP secular nationalist center (with a smitter of soc-dem)
MHP extreme right
HDP green, democratic-socialist, kurdish
AKP islamist

There are hundreds of smaller parties many communist of various shades

And then there are armed groups, most notably the pkk (kurdish), dhkp/c (alevi nationalist m/l), mlkp (hoxaist)

Thank you. As I found CPT became United Socialist Party. One more prove not to trust Wikipedia.

[mutualaid]

what does life for the kurds look like in the next few years?

[Comrade Jacob]

Obviously rigged.

[Burzhuin]

what does life for the kurds look like in the next few years?
They fought before election and now they will have to fight even harder.

[Devrim]

dhkp/c (alevi nationalist m/l)

I don't really care hi I that DHKP/C is an alevi nationalist party.

Devrim

[Devrim]

Obviously rigged.

Why do you say that hat it was "obviously rigged"?

I don't think it was.

Devrim

[cyu]

Every political party that refuses to rig elections, will eventually be replaced by political parties that rig elections - and that becomes the new steady state.

But what else would you expect an anarchist to say :lol:

[Sasha]

I don't really care hi I that DHKP/C is an alevi nationalist party.

Devrim

I assume you ask why i say this? Suppose i should have said "m/l, nationalist, alevi", i meant to say they where very turkish nationalist (now a days, even for an ML org) and dominanted by people from alevi background, not that they where alevi nationalist in the sense that the pkk is kurdish nationalist.