Liberals did something?

[Comrade Jacob]

The liberal party of Canada pulled troops out of Iraq and Syria. Like wtf?

[Aslan]

Is that so? Wow well at least Canada has some sense not to fight in america's imperialist wars. I just wish other countries did the same.

[Comrade Jacob]

It ain't revolutionary but it's good for the people of Iraq and Syria.



Well, he hasn't done it yet but he says he's going to to Obama.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

It ain't revolutionary but it's good for the people of Iraq and Syria.



Well, he hasn't done it yet but he says he's going to to Obama.

^He's also alleging that he is going to end Canad's involvement in the Drug War and Canadian prohibition. We'll see?

[blake 3:17]

They're actually not pulling all the troops. They're pulling the bomber jets. They are keeping a few troops on the ground for "training purposes".

Overall it's very positive.

[ShadowStar]

It will be good if Canada pulls troops out of Iraq and Syria. I hope other nations fighting with the US will also pull out their troops eventually.

[The Intransigent Faction]

They aren't hell-bent crusaders like the conservative Christians of the last government, but as blake already said, they are keeping troops there for "training purposes".

Justin Trudeau supported such a mission when he was in the Opposition. He supported sending troops as "advisers", as if he thought people couldn't figure out that once you have "boots on the ground", they're going to be drawn into firefights at some point and "collateral damage" will be inevitable. From what I've seen, it's a way to support war without explicitly supporting it, in keeping with Trudeau's usual half-assed mental gymnastics. Contrary to his claims, in imperialist counter-insurgency wars there is no "clear line" between a combat and "non-combat" role. It's also worth saying that the Liberals aren't just pulling bomber jets out because they're benevolent overlords.

Meanwhile in Canada, Trudeau also supports Bill C-51 (expanded police/spying abilities) with certain invasive provisions left intact.

Sure, it's at least better than sending fighter jets on an explicitly combat mission. It just leaves a lot to be desired.

As for drugs, well, Trudeau once voted for mandatory minimums for possession. To be fair, he is of course capable of doing what's politically expedient. His current position is in favour of legalization.

Maybe I'm just tired of people lauding the guy, especially while he's still technically "Prime Minister-designate".

[The Intransigent Faction]

So, this was written...

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/canada-ran-away-triumphalist-online-jihadists-celebrating-trudeaus-promise-to-withdraw-jets

Seriously? :laugh: "Justin Trudeau was elected. They're weak!" It's interesting if the "he's soft on terrorism" narrative is even bought by ISIS itself...

[Bala Perdida]

Not to far I feel will we have a 'disillusioned with communism' thread from this type.

[Comrade Jacob]

Not to far I feel will we have a 'disillusioned with communism' thread from this type.

If you think I'm gunna throw away my Marxist book collection and become a liberal you are quite wrong.

[Comrade Jacob]

They're actually not pulling all the troops. They're pulling the bomber jets. They are keeping a few troops on the ground for "training purposes".

Overall it's very positive.

I should've investigated before I spoke.

[Synergy]

If you think I'm gunna throw away my Marxist book collection and become a liberal you are quite wrong.

You mean I threw all my Marxist books into the fire for nothing? Well gosh darn-it!

[Burzhuin]

There is good proverb in my old country: Be aware standing ahead of a bull, be aware standing behind a horse, be aware of liberals from any direction. I hope the meaning is understandable.

[Ele'ill]

The first thing that comes to mind is that the move probably has nothing to do with 'world peace'. The troops can always get sent back and the 'some troops left', that we know about, is pretty vague. The purpose of the troops on the ground, even a small number and depending on their purupose, can still be engaging in war. In fact it is probably simultaneous PR and military strategy shift while working with allies.

[blake 3:17]

Pace of Canadian airstrikes against ISIL picks up despite Trudeau’s vow to end mission

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The pace of Canada’s aerial bombardments against ISIL has picked up since Justin Trudeau became prime minister, a curious scenario given his campaign pledge to withdraw from the U.S.-led mission in Iraq and Syria.

Since Trudeau’s swearing-in five days ago on Nov. 4, Canada’s CF-18 jets conducted five airstrikes, hitting seven targets identified as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant assets, according to information from the Department of National Defence.

There were 14 airstrikes in all of October, 10 in September and 11 in August. The busiest the CF-18 crews have been recently was in July, when there were six airstrikes in a five-day period.

As of Monday, CF-18 Hornets have conducted a total of 184 airstrikes as part of Operation Impact, a multinational coalition against ISIL in Iraq and Syria.

The military defines an airstrike as an aerial attack intended to damage or destroy an objective.

DND said the frequency of airstrikes are dictated by operational matters, not the politics of Ottawa.

full article: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/pace-of-canadian-air-strikes-against-isil-picks-up-despite-trudeaus-vow-to-end-mission

[olahsenor]

The lobbyists from defense industries must be having a hard time coping with their balance sheets since the fall of SU. The young Trudeau pulled out the troops. So their coffers are going empty. Imperialist wars sustain these industries. Better yet to give them as food stamps since lots of people on welfare are all over.

[The Intransigent Faction]

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-will-increase-ground-troops-in-iraq-trudeau-1.2661947

So, this is what's happening so far:


Trudeau has remained firm that Canada will withdraw its six CF-18 jet fighters before its March 2016 commitment expires, but has faced pressure to climb down from that promise because of Friday's terrorist attacks in Paris. "I've committed repeatedly to my allies that we were going to do more on the training front and that means obviously more than just 69 trainers," Trudeau said.
"How many that will be, what form that will take, what kind of engagement we're going to have, those are things that we're going to work out."
Trudeau didn't offer specific numbers but he has cited the Forces Afghanistan training mission, to which the Harper government initially committed almost 1,000 troops.