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theblackmask
13th October 2015, 05:17
From Destroy Everything (http://destroy.svbtle.com)

The anarchist scene is currently in an uproar. If people arent upset about Michael Schmidts racist remarks and possible infiltration, they are gossiping about the recent feud between Aragorn and Bob Black. Anarchism has, in the span of a few weeks, been reduced to the petty gossip of tabloids. Those at the head of these events are doing nothing but spectacularizing the events. In the Michael Schmidt case, AK Press decided to prematurely announce things, then wait until they could secure a more mainstream outlet to publish on. In the other case, we have seen a barrage of social media, along with a eulogy for Mr. Black, in a written/semi-physical war which could just continue ad nauseum. Why do we care about these things, of which the majority of us have no direct involvement? Why has reality entertainment reared its ugly head in anarchism?


I believe Squee comes very close to answering this, when he talks about anarchism as an actual scene ala a movie or TV set. The scene is simply the people that are there, in the scene. While I agree with Squee on the analogy, I think he misses a vital point. Most people are not actors in the scene, but mere scenery. Maybe someone like a Michael Schmidt or a Bob Black gets to be in the scene as an actor, but the rest of us are barely present. We are beer glasses, or chairs, next to the living actors in the scene. This may be fine in other so-called scenes, but we are supposed to be anarchists who are opposed to something like the hierarchy this creates. Are you content with being a chair, and sitting there, after the set has closed, and everyone has left for the night, discussing the acting of Aragorn vs Black? Im definitely not.



A real anarchist scene would have us all be actors, but so many of us have chosen to remain propsscenery to that which goes on around us. Enough to the point that news of opposition to the system, or any news relating to the anarchistic, takes a backseat to the newest gossip. Pretty soon, well all be talking sharing updates about each kidney stone that John Zerzan passes. (sorry John!)


The worst thing about all of this is that its NOT EVEN NEWS!!! Any person who has read Schmidts rants should have called out his crypto-racism a long time ago. Any person who has read Blacks defenses of himself should have also known what a batshit turn he could take in the name of self-preservation. The things everyone has been gossiping about have been blatantly apparent this whole time. We might even have had the power to direct these scenes, yet still we remain propsa tree in the background, barely in focusabsorbing information but not acting upon it.



There is, indeed, a spectacle of society, but there is no society of the spectacle. Our society is a spectacle for each and every slave that inhabits it, precisely because he or she is a slave, because he or she is isolated and separated from the other slaves and from society as a whole, because slaves do not govern, slaves do not communicate and, therefore, slaves do not act. - Jean-Pierre Voyer

Os Cangaceiros
13th October 2015, 13:01
LOL Bob Black? People still talk about that dude?

Comrade V
13th October 2015, 13:04
I actually hadn't heard about him until now.

Lord Testicles
13th October 2015, 13:12
I actually hadn't heard about him until now.

He's a snitch and a coward who should be greeted with a barrage of fists everywhere that he goes, unfortunately nobody has had the good fortune to break his jaw yet.

Comrade V
13th October 2015, 13:14
He's a snitch and a coward who should be greeted with a barrage of fists everywhere that he goes, unfortunately nobody has had the good fortune to break his jaw yet.

Good to know :grin:

Ele'ill
13th October 2015, 14:16
tbh the original post is basically calling out the scene garbage spectacle while trying to interweave character illustrations and a narrative that should be cared about, as if it isn't scene garbage.

BIXX
13th October 2015, 20:15
Yeah idk I think it's pretty safe to say fuck the anarchist scene

ACME_MAN
10th November 2015, 21:53
Surprising to me how many anarchists there are out there now. A whole lot more than I thought, and it is worrisome to me.

John Nada
11th November 2015, 00:32
He's a snitch and a coward who should be greeted with a barrage of fists everywhere that he goes, unfortunately nobody has had the good fortune to break his jaw yet.Good news: http://www.anarchistnews.org/content/defense-punching-bob-black-and-exiling-snitchy-bigots-0 A Spectacle indeed. Unfortunately I don't think she broke his jaw, but he did get knocked the fuck out.:grin:
Surprising to me how many anarchists there are out there now. A whole lot more than I thought, and it is worrisome to me.How is this a bad thing?

Trap Queen Voxxy
11th November 2015, 01:37
tbh the original post is basically calling out the scene garbage spectacle while trying to interweave character illustrations and a narrative that should be cared about, as if it isn't scene garbage.

^this, outside of the Schmidt debacle I haven't even heard of some
non-sensical 'feud.'

I mean I more concerned with the infiltration of Anonymous and the cop-props of Lulzsec and Antisec than I am about the alleged pissing contests betwixt two fools who may have had a handful of neat ideas once. I mean there is a number of legitimate concerns we should have; radical celeb drama isn't one of them. I creat chaos all the time, where's my thread?

What's the deal with Black and Aragon anyway?

Palmares
11th November 2015, 03:57
What's the deal with Black and Aragon anyway?

To save you the time I wasted looking up all this Bay area gossip...

Aragorn hosted an event with Bob Black as the speaker, someone who hates Black (pick one!) ended up attacking him and then was kicked out.

Black is pissed off about it, and now holds Aragorn as complicit in it for not properly safeguarding his safety. They are no longer friends, and perhaps could be now described as "enemies".

That's basically it, give or take a few layers of anarcho-gossip.

Trap Queen Voxxy
11th November 2015, 04:17
To save you the time I wasted looking up all this Bay area gossip...

Aragorn hosted an event with Bob Black as the speaker, someone who hates Black (pick one!) ended up attacking him and then was kicked out.

Black is pissed off about it, and now holds Aragorn as complicit in it for not properly safeguarding his safety. They are no longer friends, and perhaps could be now described as "enemies".

That's basically it, give or take a few layers of anarcho-gossip.

Awwwwe shanks for enabling my laziness :wub: shucks

Lord Testicles
11th November 2015, 14:43
To save you the time I wasted looking up all this Bay area gossip...

Aragorn hosted an event with Bob Black as the speaker, someone who hates Black (pick one!) ended up attacking him and then was kicked out.

Black is pissed off about it, and now holds Aragorn as complicit in it for not properly safeguarding his safety. They are no longer friends, and perhaps could be now described as "enemies".

That's basically it, give or take a few layers of anarcho-gossip.

Moral of the story: Don't invite a gaping anus of a human being to speak at events.

Comrade Jacob
11th November 2015, 15:26
Godfuckingdamn that page is so edgy. Fuck this, fuck that. Fuck analysis just fuck everything.

BIXX
11th November 2015, 19:07
Moral of the story: Don't invite a gaping anus of a human being to speak at events.

To be fair I don't really care for aragorn either. All of the times I've met him he's seemed like a huge dick. I think that vast majority of that scene sucks (some of them are nice tho, zerxan and wolfi I think would be nice to get a drink with)

Lord Testicles
11th November 2015, 19:13
To be fair I don't really care for aragorn either. All of the times I've met him he's seemed like a huge dick. I think that vast majority of that scene sucks (some of them are nice tho, zerxan and wolfi I think would be nice to get a drink with)

I really don't care if someone is personable or not. Black is a snitch, a coward and a whiny little shit and because of these things people should ostracise him. Also while we're on the subject, fuck anyone that treats Anarchism as a "scene".

Zerzan probably isn't that nice to get drunk with if you're disabled...

BIXX
11th November 2015, 19:56
I really don't care if someone is personable or not. Black is a snitch, a coward and a whiny little shit and because of these things people should ostracise him. Also while we're on the subject, fuck anyone that treats Anarchism as a "scene".

Zerzan probably isn't that nice to get drunk with if you're disabled...

It is a scene though and everyone who participates in it is scene trash imo.

I agree with hating black but I think they all suck. They just display it differently. That was more my point.

Lord Testicles
11th November 2015, 20:07
It is a scene though and everyone who participates in it is scene trash imo.


Explain. Expand. Elucidate.

BIXX
11th November 2015, 20:15
Explain. Expand. Elucidate.

Which part?

Lord Testicles
11th November 2015, 20:36
Which part?

Truth be told, I'm not really sure what you mean by the word "scene." (I looked it up and google said that it's "a social environment frequented predominantly by homosexuals.) Like what is it? Why is it bad?

What I assumed when I read it was a bunch of people with Mohawk listening to sex pistols with no interest in actually struggling towards Anarchism and with no real understanding of what Anarchism is, would that be right?

Trap Queen Voxxy
12th November 2015, 01:01
Godfuckingdamn that page is so edgy. Fuck this, fuck that. Fuck analysis just fuck everything.

Welcome to anarchy; did we just blow your mind mortal?

BIXX
13th November 2015, 21:52
Truth be told, I'm not really sure what you mean by the word "scene." (I looked it up and google said that it's "a social environment frequented predominantly by homosexuals.) Like what is it? Why is it bad?

What I assumed when I read it was a bunch of people with Mohawk listening to sex pistols with no interest in actually struggling towards Anarchism and with no real understanding of what Anarchism is, would that be right?

No, I mean the poisonous community within anarchism devoted to social capital and the abuses that entails.