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whichfinder
26th September 2015, 00:00
Date: This Sunday, 27 September at 3pm

Venue: The Socialist Party's premises, 52 Clapham High Street, London SW4 7UN

Directions: About four minutes walk from Clapham North tube on the Northern line and three minutes walk from Clapham High Street station on the circular overground line

A talk by Adam Buick

Free admission and refreshments

http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/event/economic-calculation-argument-head-office-3pm

QueerVanguard
26th September 2015, 03:02
If I wanted to watch another senile old white man bumble on for two hours, I'd watch the Republican debates. Seriously when is SPGB going to start having female or POC speakers for a change? FFS

whichfinder
26th September 2015, 16:25
If I wanted to watch another senile old white man bumble on for two hours, I'd watch the Republican debates. Seriously when is SPGB going to start having female or POC speakers for a change? FFS

So would the message be any different? You need to get over your ageism, racism and sexism traits FFS. But just to pander to your prejudices for a moment here's a female and a female POC along with three "senile old white men", and one not so senile white man, all rolled into the space of less than three minutes. Better now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScJyrOPT5Dg

QueerVanguard
28th September 2015, 21:34
So would the message be any different? You need to get over your ageism, racism and sexism traits FFS. But just to pander to your prejudices for a moment here's a female and a female POC along with three "senile old white men", and one not so senile white man, all rolled into the space of less than three minutes. Better now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScJyrOPT5Dg

Surely you jest. I already addressed the spgb's LGBTQ phobia and bullshit token poc shtick here http://www.revleft.com/vb/spgb-euroelection-broadcast-t188486/index.html?t=188486

QueerVanguard
28th September 2015, 21:35
Anyway it doesnt look like anyone else is interested in going to your boring little whitesplaining event anyway, even with free tea and biscuits

whichfinder
3rd October 2015, 01:06
Surely you jest. I already addressed the spgb's LGBTQ phobia and bullshit token poc shtick here http://www.revleft.com/vb/spgb-euroelection-broadcast-t188486/index.html?t=188486

Yeah, you were talking complete bollocks then so nothing's changed.

And stop calling me Shirley...

whichfinder
11th October 2015, 10:30
Link to the audio recording of this talk:

http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/audio/economic-calculation-argument

QueerVanguard
11th October 2015, 20:47
Link to the audio recording of this talk:

http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/audio/economic-calculation-argument

I'll be sure to play these recordings when I'm trying to fall asleep tonight

Lord Testicles
11th October 2015, 21:12
I'll be sure to play these recordings when I'm trying to fall asleep tonight

This is a verbal warning.


Please do not post any one-line posts like "I agree", "Good point", "Hear, Hear", or whatever to increase your post count. If you have nothing productive to say, don't say it! Notorious spammers/one-line posters will be banned.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/misc.php?do=showrules

Qayin
11th October 2015, 21:33
You need to get over your ageism, racism and sexism traits

You cannot be racist to white people, dude.

QueerVanguard
12th October 2015, 04:38
You cannot be racist to white people, dude.

Not in SPGB land. In their feeble minds, racism isn't institutional, it's just bad ideas held by mean people. They are idealists through and through and if anyone should criticise their blatant race and sexuality problem their first reaction is to accuse the poc or queer individual of "racism"

The Idler
12th October 2015, 11:03
Not in SPGB land. In their feeble minds, racism isn't institutional, it's just bad ideas held by mean people. They are idealists through and through and if anyone should criticise their blatant race and sexuality problem their first reaction is to accuse the poc or queer individual of "racism"
You realise discriminating against people because they are white is still discrimination right? The SPGB don't discriminate on grounds of race nor are they racist. The only one being racist by labelling a POC as 'token' and discriminating on grounds of race is you QV. Take your racism, ageism and sexism elsewhere.

Qayin
14th October 2015, 00:09
You realise discriminating against people because they are white is still discrimination right?

http://racetraitor.org/abolish.html

The Idler
21st October 2015, 22:22
If I wanted to watch another senile old white man bumble on for two hours, I'd watch the Republican debates. Seriously when is SPGB going to start having female or POC speakers for a change? FFS


Anyway it doesnt look like anyone else is interested in going to your boring little whitesplaining event anyway, even with free tea and biscuits


You cannot be racist to white people, dude.


http://racetraitor.org/abolish.html
I'm not sure how some of you haven't been banned for this. There is no white person club, but this sort of text is intent on constructing it. It is the same sort of view that those identifying as heterosexual collectively are responsible in some way for discrimination against those identifying as homosexual. The SPGB have been clear on this, read their pamphlet
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/pamphlets/racial-problem-socialist-analysis
Here is the relevant part if you cannot be bothered


In dealing with the question of “race”, riddled as it is with so much misunderstanding (mainly the result of ignorance) and distortion (much more often deliberate and calculated), it is as well to state briefly our position right from the outset, so as to leave nobody under any misapprehension whatsoever as to where we stand.
The Socialist Party of Great Britain recognises only one fundamental social division in the modern world—the division that exists between the capitalist class on the one hand, and the working-class on the other. All other divisions, whether they be based on religion, nationality, language or “race”, are incidental to this main division. Regarding our attitude to the problem of race-prejudice, let us state categorically so that nobody will misunderstand:
The interests of all members of the working-class, whatever the race to which they belong, are fundamentally opposed to the interests of the members of the capitalist class irrespective of the race to which the members of this latter class belong.
The class division cuts directly across all others.