SYRIZA's split sends waves of turbulence to the European Left

[nomoba]

Another reason for Merkel, Schäuble and the Brussels bureaufascists to rejoice

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2015/08/syrizas-split-sends-waves-of-turbulence.html

[Guardia Rossa]

Not New News: Bourgeoisie turns a communist party into a social-democratic party by aiding it's moderate plataform and "forcing" the communist elements out.

This is happening everywhere a communist party, especially one that is not exactly communist, but yes a grouping of varied leftist ideologies, is elected.

Only difference is this time they are actually admiting it.

[Flavius]

Meh, If you ask me, Syriza was doomed from the beginning. They couldn't solve the problems of the curent greek situation because it is was way out of their reach at the beginning, and it only became worse during the months. They had problems inherited to them by moderate parties, but instead of admitting that they can't solve them, they decided to play along. Tsipras is not an idiot; he had to know that they aren't going to be the saviours of the greek people, but still used fierce rhetoric - in my eyes this is no more than a lie. Just like the referendum.

It's tragic because the problems of Greece are not their fault, but they still had to fall. The tragic element however does not justify that they - even knowing that they could not succeed - tried to look like they can fight the EU, and thus, tried to fool their own voters.

I honestly hope that Podemos, and other new leftist parties will learn from that and prove better.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I still think that there has been a modicum of success from the SYRIZA project, not in what it (failed to) achieve, but in that for the first time a 'left' government (sort of) tried to take on the EU and showed the basic lack of humanity of the European Union and its institutions.

Of course, SYRIZA is dead and rightly so; Tsipras took completely the wrong path and looks like he has now become a full-on turncoat who will present his re-constituted SYRIZA party as a moderate, pro-bailout, pro-Europe party. Sad.

Lessons can be learned: power should be exercised democratically, especially by left-wing parties who should be aware that participating in bourgeois governments can so easily be the death of internal party and class democracy. Hopefully, the likes of Podemos, and a Corbyn-led Labour Party in the UK (as well as potentially Popular Unity in Greece) would be wise enough to learn from the mistakes of SYRIZA going forward.

[PhoenixAsh]

That site has some weird ass articles.

So what that article is saying is that moderate parties are radicalizing their position. While this may split some inconvenient parties...this can not be seen as good news for the establishment depending on the electoral success and influence these parties gain.

[ckaihatsu]

[T]he leadership of Podemos, defended Tsipras' choices, even after the acceptance of the third loan agreement,




despite the fact that it was rejected by the Greek citizens in a referendum.


On the branched political timeline *this* is the defining moment, and it marks the point of departure for all that follows, since there's not much that's more democratic than a *whole-country referendum*.

Whatever the politicking and electioneering that follows all we have to do is compare any given statement to the substance of Greece's anti-austerity referendum of July 2015, and see how they stack up.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I think Podemos are in a hard place where, even if they disagreed with the actions of Tsipras post-referendum, they have to support SYRIZA in order to avoid appearing isolated, internationally. I imagine that a rupture between Tsipras' SYRIZA and the rest of the 'democratic socialist' left - Die Linke, Podemos, Socialists in Portugal etc. - will be easier if and when Tsipras forms an explicitly pro-bailout government after the upcoming September elections.

[ckaihatsu]

I think Podemos are in a hard place where, even if they disagreed with the actions of Tsipras post-referendum, they have to support SYRIZA in order to avoid appearing isolated, internationally. I imagine that a rupture between Tsipras' SYRIZA and the rest of the 'democratic socialist' left - Die Linke, Podemos, Socialists in Portugal etc. - will be easier if and when Tsipras forms an explicitly pro-bailout government after the upcoming September elections.


Tsipras said 'pro-bailout' *before* and then didn't follow-through -- I don't see him as having much political capital after blatantly ignoring the popular will as expressed in the Greece referendum.