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Sasha
19th August 2015, 18:28
oh my god, this shit is so bad i cant stop, found this collection of the first 3 Terry Goodkind books next to the paper recycle container and as i don't read much "traditional" fantasy (love Gaiman and Pratchett, grew up on Tolkien and indulge since a year or two in GRRM, but the rest i gave mostly a miss) i somehow forgot (if i even ever knew) that the dude is a hardcore objectivist.
so i started on the first book and while a bit predictable genre writing i liked it enough to not dump it straight back in the container.
now halfway the first book all this incredibly corny objectivist shit is getting shoe'd in but its a. incredibly gripping in a horrible carcrash kind of way and b. the thing that always pissed me off with ayn rand is that she presented her shit as an actual philosophy and applicable ethos, for some reason it works a lot better in the format of an reactionary fantasy, which in the end it just is.
i'm not sure whether i will think it worth the effort to read the next two books but i have committed to finish this one. wonder how bad it going to be.
anyone read the whole series?

Brandon's Impotent Rage
19th August 2015, 22:47
The first couple of books in the series are actually quite readable. But once you get to Faith of the Fallen, it becomes bad. Really bad. INFURIATINGLY bad. The moralizing becomes absolutely intolerable.

Ceallach_the_Witch
19th August 2015, 22:54
i read the first three books (i too bought them second hand) and yeah, i pretty much kept reading for the sheer spectacle of objectivism colliding at speed with potboiler fantasy. they get increasingly terrible as the series progresses and to be honest, to get past the second one involves a perverse love of really awful things (to put it in context, i'd drive a dodge mirada) and getting past the third one probably involves having a medal that proves how much of an objectivist you are. Between the awkward and incredibly bad bdsm bits and the sort of One True Human Randist shit you can make a hell of a literary drinking game tho.

Sasha
21st August 2015, 17:27
i gave up, made it to two thirds of the first book but then the repetition on every page of this "you should totally turn your backs on everyone and let everyone die if it is for the good cause except when push comes to shove at the main characters because they are essential for the plot and special people" hypocrisy really got to me.
i'm even going to chuck them into the container and not leave them on top like i normally do, this is no literature i happen to disagree with, this is just really badly written propaganda...

Sasha
21st August 2015, 17:33
bought some more partchett and the first dune novel instead... fuck this shit