The so called "solution" for immigrants

[Philosophos]

OK I have bearly put any thought on this so I would like to start discussing about it. Lately there is a very big amount of immigrants in greek islands and so on and people keep saying the same two old stories: Help them no matter the cost or throw them at the sea (or at least make them go away since the country can't really do anything for them).

I would like to ask you, would there be any problem with immigration during socialism(both as the earlier stage of communism or communism itself) plus is there any solution inside capitalism so we can at least treat immigrants with the best way possible.

I seriously have no idea on the subject so try to make it as simple as possible and sorry if this has been already answered, but I kinda suck at searching and I couldn't find something in here.

[Alet]

I would like to ask you, would there be any problem with immigration during socialism(both as the earlier stage of communism or communism itself)

Why do refugees migrate? Poverty? War? Oppression? If so, remember, socialism abolishes these. In short, no, immigration will not be a 'problem' in socialism. However, that is not to say people are forbidden to migrate.


plus is there any solution inside capitalism so we can at least treat immigrants with the best way possible.

Fair distribution and no deportation, in my opinion.

[RedWorker]

I believe that all communists and workers must advocate equal rights for immigrants and citizens and the total unrestriction of any basic freedom such as freedom of travel. If this is revealed to overwhelm capitalism, then the necessity for communism will just become even more evident.

[Hatshepsut]

Any anti-immigrant position is necessarily nationalistic. Marxism is not nationalism. Ergo. Particular immigrants hostile to the revolution might be barred, but I don't see any opposition to immigration itself.

[Philosophos]

Fair distribution and no deportation, in my opinion.

Yeah but on the other hand people in Greece and Bulgaria (I talk about these two countries alone because I'm very familiar with them) both say that they can't give jobs and can't make a proper home for these immigrants, because they are poor and so on. So basically they HAVE/ "have" to deport them. Is there any argument for the poor countries to keep the immigrants because they are good for them?

[Alet]

Yeah but on the other hand people in Greece and Bulgaria (I talk about these two countries alone because I'm very familiar with them) both say that they can't give jobs and can't make a proper home for these immigrants, because they are poor and so on. So basically they HAVE/ "have" to deport them. Is there any argument for the poor countries to keep the immigrants because they are good for them?

Greece is not to blame, when Great Britain, Germany and Hungary basically refuse to absorb refugees. Those who oppose the idea of a fair distribution in the EU are creating their own counterarguments.