BLM Activist Seizes Mic From Sanders, Calls Out "White Supremacist Liberals"

[John Nada]

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Fucking liberals!:laugh: Can't let her speak for a few minutes. The crowd even booed for the moment of silence for Michael Brown. She correctly called them out on their racism. Left cover for reaction.

(Though it's possible this is a rival candidate's work, but still hilarious.)

[ChangeAndChance]

Okay, this is some shit I really don't get. I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders - weak-sauce social democrats are nowhere near promoters of real working class liberation. But why are BlackLivesMatter activists attacking Sanders of all people? With the blatant racism of Donald Trump surging his position in the polls, why isn't BlackLivesMatter targeting people who haven't had a consistent track record of supporting the African-American community?

Granted, it is a poor choice on Sanders' part for his lack of addressing the struggles blacks face in America (I think most likely because those on the left take votes from the black community for granted), but it feels like they're bashing him as if he's campaigning for whites-only universal health care and the reinforcement of systematic segregation.

Whilst I think Sanders truly believes what he says (as weak-kneed as it might be), I'm positive Clinton is spewing whatever she thinks people will like to get elected.

[Sasha]

read this?

The Left’s Self-Destructive Obsession with Shame (http://www.orchestratedpulse.com/2014/08/shame-left/); http://www.orchestratedpulse.com/2014/08/shame-left/

[ChangeAndChance]

Thanks for that; it gave me hope for a solution to the problem of the reaction against anti-racist/homophobic/transphobic/anti-discriminiation in general. The obsession with shame and calling out the ignorant (and usually not malicious) behaviors and tendencies of a privileged group that many on the Left have produces nothing but angry people who get ultra-defensive rather than promoting thinking and reconsideration of their attitudes and actions - it creates the "Social Justice Warrior" stereotype so vilified by straight cis white men on the Internet who probably have the potential to change but are too (ironically) caught up in their emotions to stop and think for a second.

This series of videos I just came across covers this problem especially in the realm of "Gamergate", the harassment of feminists, and the recently amplified misogyny in gamer culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8XgGhXkTQ&list=PLJA_jUddXvY62dhVThbeegLPpvQlR4CjF

[Tim Cornelis]

"can't let her speak for a few minutes", well, you can't really expect people to just allow people to rush the stage and allow them to do that to send whatever message they want. Yeah, as an activist tactic this is valid, but you can't expect them to allow it..

[Hermes]

Okay, this is some shit I really don't get. I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders - weak-sauce social democrats are nowhere near promoters of real working class liberation. But why are BlackLivesMatter activists attacking Sanders of all people? With the blatant racism of Donald Trump surging his position in the polls, why isn't BlackLivesMatter targeting people who haven't had a consistent track record of supporting the African-American community?

Granted, it is a poor choice on Sanders' part for his lack of addressing the struggles blacks face in America (I think most likely because those on the left take votes from the black community for granted), but it feels like they're bashing him as if he's campaigning for whites-only universal health care and the reinforcement of systematic segregation.

Whilst I think Sanders truly believes what he says (as weak-kneed as it might be), I'm positive Clinton is spewing whatever she thinks people will like to get elected.

I think that they probably had one of two reasons for doing so, though obviously I can't speak for them.

Either they believe that Sanders is basically acting in a fashion to lure people into the democratic camp, and eventually support Hillary, and so by discrediting him they undermine electoral politics in general, or they're attempting Sanders to finally give firm/clear support to the black community, BLM, etc.

[BIXX]

Fucking activism. I do understand why one might choose Sanders for something like this, but seriously, fucking activism.

[Sewer Socialist]

Thanks for that; it gave me hope for a solution to the problem of the reaction against anti-racist/homophobic/transphobic/anti-discriminiation in general. The obsession with shame and calling out the ignorant (and usually not malicious) behaviors and tendencies of a privileged group that many on the Left have produces nothing but angry people who get ultra-defensive rather than promoting thinking and reconsideration of their attitudes and actions - it creates the "Social Justice Warrior" stereotype so vilified by straight cis white men on the Internet who probably have the potential to change but are too (ironically) caught up in their emotions to stop and think for a second.

This series of videos I just came across covers this problem especially in the realm of "Gamergate", the harassment of feminists, and the recently amplified misogyny in gamer culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8XgGhXkTQ&list=PLJA_jUddXvY62dhVThbeegLPpvQlR4CjF

Doing so to Trump would also work in his favor as racists seeing ol' Donnie fighting the SJWs would also bolster his support on the right.

Not that it wouldn't be tactful to do so, but it certainly wouldn't swing the election to the left any more than what they're currently doing.

[blake 3:17]

Apparently it worked. Issues of racial justice have been made more prominent on the Sanders site and program -- a friend says they are an addition in the past day.

I know Sanders has said some of these in the past. https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

Edited to add: I checked to make sure this claim was right and it is. Racial Justice was not on the platform as of August 5: https://web.archive.org/web/20150805120025/https://berniesanders.com/issues/

I'd thought it was a bad play but what heck, it turns out to have turned out alright, I guess...

[John Nada]

I didn't expect them to let her to speak. It was partly a joke. But it wasn't so much the when she talked, understandable that maybe it was hot and they had a schedule so were pissed because of that. But the boos and heckles in in concert with what she said. Didn't look good, though it wouldn't surprise me if some of the crowd were Clinton's people doing it, if not the work of the Clinton campaign altogether(though I don't know that). That is how elections are after all.

I don't know if she's a leftist(think I've heard her name in the news before, forgot if it was negative or positive in that regard, but fuck it). I don't give a fuck either way about "call outs". My op was half-joking. Seemed more like poor handling of the crowd's reaction on her part. I don't particularly care about liberals(she is right they can be just as bad if not worse than conservatives), and don't care about bourgeois politicians' pride. But all those liberal cities like Seattle do like to market themselves as better and more progressive socially than the South(much of the left seems to fall for that and focus more on them), but are just as racist if not worse. She was right about that.
Apparently it worked. Issues of racial justice have been made more prominent on the Sanders site and program -- a friend says they are an addition in the past day.

I know Sanders has said some of these in the past. https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/ That's good. Might not have won over the crowd, but at least more prominence on his platform. Might be more prominent in the primary debate too.

How does Hillary Clinton manage to avoid the BLM activists?:confused: She's even worse than Sanders on civil rights.

Also would this thread be more for the Discrimination forum?

[The Feral Underclass]

Fucking activism. I do understand why one might choose Sanders for something like this, but seriously, fucking activism.

I love you :wub:

[The Feral Underclass]

I didn't expect them to let her to speak. It was partly a joke. But it wasn't so much the when she talked, understandable that maybe it was hot and they had a schedule so were pissed because of that. But the boos and heckles in in concert with what she said. Didn't look good, though it wouldn't surprise me if some of the crowd were Clinton's people doing it, if not the work of the Clinton campaign altogether(though I don't know that). That is how elections are after all.

I don't know if she's a leftist(think I've heard her name in the news before, forgot if it was negative or positive in that regard, but fuck it). I don't give a fuck either way about "call outs". My op was half-joking. Seemed more like poor handling of the crowd's reaction on her part. I don't particularly care about liberals(she is right they can be just as bad if not worse than conservatives), and don't care about bourgeois politicians' pride. But all those liberal cities like Seattle do like to market themselves as better and more progressive socially than the South(much of the left seems to fall for that and focus more on them), but are just as racist if not worse. She was right about that.That's good. Might not have won over the crowd, but at least more prominence on his platform. Might be more prominent in the primary debate too.

How does Hillary Clinton manage to avoid the BLM activists?:confused: She's even worse than Sanders on civil rights.

Also would this thread be more for the Discrimination forum?

I think people boo and jeer in situations like this without even thinking about it. Public events like this follow such a strict and traditional format that when anyone disturbs what people have comfortingly come to expect they instantly become offended. It's not even that she said things they disagreed with -- because they probably didn't -- it's that she usurped the format...People don't like it when you usurp the format. It's disorderly and we can't have that at our pre-defined public events.

[willowtooth]

they are only doing this because Bernie sanders will allow them too get on stage, he also has no security (besides what he pays for), as oppose to Hillary who as former first lady gets a squad of secret service agents that would've thrown these girls, to the ground by their neck, the second they tried to come up on stage.

Keep in mind, there's something like 20+ republicans running, all hosting events like these, they just had a major republican debate, where black lives matter wasn't mentioned once, and only one question about police brutality was asked to one candidate who gave a 10 sec soundbyte response about "training police officers better" and about how we should "respect the police"

where was BLM? did anyone even protest outside? this was held in cleveland the same place where 12 year old tamir rice was shot (without warning) for playing with a bb gun in a park, 2 seconds after the cop left his car

someone tried to ambush kill a cop in ferguson yesterday though:unsure:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/2015/08/the_latest_man_seriously_injured_in_ferguson_shoot ing

[Sasha]

apparently one of the women has been identified as a christian fundamentalist and former Palin supporter

[John Nada]

apparently one of the women has been identified as a christian fundamentalist and former Palin supporterI looked. She was in high school att. Supposedly no longer a Republican. The Christian shit I saw is rather typical in the US(Christian relatives annoy me:unsure:).

They were part of a group called "Outside agitators 206"
We are the Outside Agitators 206.

First off, we have four points of unity:

-We center Black voices to celebrate and affirm Blackness. We believe that any movement to end anti-Black racism must be led by Black people.
-We believe that everyone has a right to resist their oppressors and what resistance looks like varies for different individuals and different circumstances.
-We don’t directly speak to corporate media, nor do we need them. We are our own voice.
-Fuck the police: As an institution fundamentally rooted in white supremacy and anti-Blackness we reject the police presence in our communities, absolutely. It is our responsibility to hold each other accountable and keep each other safe.

We are abolitionists in the year 2015. We want an end to police terror, we want an end to slavery that is the prison system, and we want the people who profit from this held accountable

.Aside from that, we are as varied as the plant life in the North West. We are youth, students, workers, parents, teachers, artists, street philosophers, survivalists, revolutionaries, solutionaries, Queer, Black, Brown, Indigenous, and White Allies. We are from the town, we are transplants, we are economic refugees, we are the result of colonization, slavery and genocide. Essentially we are people that deserve a dignified life and want the same for our brothers and sisters in the struggle towards Black Liberation. Cuz when Black folks get free, we all get free.

We do this work in Memory of Mike Brown-18, Oscar Grant-22, John T. Williams, Eric Garner-43, Tamir Rice-12, Rumain Brisbon-34, Akai Gurley-28, Kajieme Powell-25, Ezell Ford-25, Dante Parker-36, John Crawford III-22, Tyree Woodson-38, Victor White III-22, Yvette Smith-47, McKenzie Cochran-27, Jordan Baker-26, Kimani Gray-16. These are only a small portion of those that were murdered by police, we do this work for all those un-named, for the families that have lost a loved one to police violence, for all those that have been brutalized daily by the police. “This ain’t your daddy’s civil rights movement” – Tef PoeSource: https://outsideagitators206.org/who-we-are/ Funny thing is all the liberals are calling the org behind this "Black Nationalist" but they just seem like progressive liberals to me.:lol: Shit they're not even acknowledging an African-American nation(whole other topic). I think it's too moderate, but with some good points.

The problem is not directly tying Black-American liberation to the global liberation of the proletariat and oppressed peoples. There was that massacre of students in Mexico around the peak of BLM. Continued abuse of undocumented immigrants, dying in the thousands to reach the first-world. Palestinians drew parallels to their oppression at the hands of the Israeli state. If you're going to end racism, it'd have to be a socialist revolution IMO. For example the white proletariat's a better accomplice than most of the black bourgeoisie IMO. But I don't think a lot of people see that, and that's what happens when class is downplayed(opposite extreme of class reductionism is not better though). Of course equating worker=trade union doesn't help.

[Counterculturalist]

I normally frown on conspiratorial analysis, but the growing separation between economic leftism and anti-racism and feminism certainly seems quite convenient for the powers that be. People are being pushed to choose either individualistic and ultimately elitist identity politics or equally elitist white working-class politics, and the natural link between the two is getting lost in the shuffle. That this is happening in the midst of what might be a global resurgence of the left is probably no accident.

[#FF0000]

That this is happening in the midst of what might be a global resurgence of the left is probably no accident.

yeah it's probably a result of "the left" completely failing to reach out past the white and educated middle class. also i wish i lived in the world you're living in where there's a "global resurgence" of the left.

for what it's worth tho this was a totally effective action and this isn't the first time BLM people did something like this. I think it might be a dead-end in a lot of ways to focus on trying to "shape the conversation" with candidates during election season but I also think a lot of the salt comin from radicals over this is bitterness over our own total impotence while people who we insist are so wrong about things are better at engaging with the people we talk about championing

v:mellow:v

[Counterculturalist]

Nah, you're right, there's no real global resurgence, and what's there isn't anything that me and you would consider left at all. I probably shouldn't have put it that way.

It's just depressing that various components of the left are being fragmented and pit against each other. But you're probably right to suggest that we look in the mirror instead of blaming outside forces. Either way we are playing right into capital's hands.

[#FF0000]

I don't think we should worry about being fractured. We're fractured cuz we're weak -- not weak cuz we're fractured.

also i went a little hard with that last post and was kind of rude I think for no reason so i'm sorry.

[Counterculturalist]

Haha, no, it's cool. I have a habit of posting things that sound like some grand statement when I'm really just thinking out loud. I should be called on it every once in a while. :lol:

[Spectre of Spartacism]

Okay, this is some shit I really don't get. I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders - weak-sauce social democrats are nowhere near promoters of real working class liberation. But why are BlackLivesMatter activists attacking Sanders of all people?

Isn't it obvious? The vast majority of these activists are unfortunately still committed to the bourgeois electoral process. They view Sanders as somebody who might include their message in his quixotic run for the nomination. That way, he will push Hillary to give more airtime to the issue, so that when Sanders delivers his voters to her, they might be able to support Hillary in putting a prettier face on a racist society. It's a liberal pressure group politics of inclusion and symbolic gesturing, and it is co-opting an issue that, more than any other, points to the need to overthrow the violently racist system we call capitalism.

[VivalaCuarta]

Oh how dare they?! Don't they realize that Sanders is the lesser of the lesser evils? They are probably secretly agents for the greater-lesser-evil, because everything revolves around our precious Democracy and the "progressive" party of the Slavocracy.

[#FF0000]

y'know i was thinking about it and shit like this is probably 10 times more cost effective and useful when it comes to putting a topic into "the conversation" as running your own candidate. Parties that like to run people "to raise awareness" should probably just start shouting instead.

[VivalaCuarta]

On the one hand you have a system -- American Capitalism -- that daily, hourly commits unspeakable racist atrocities against black people. On the other hand, you have a sideshow circus act staged by that system -- "democracy." Some protesters want to cry out about the system, and don't care if they momentarily interrupt the circus act. Lots of leftists are getting upset because their precious circus act was momentarily interrupted, because the protesters didn't put on their clown makeup and wait patiently for their stage cue.

But it's still sub-reformist bourgeois pressure politics. They won! They pressured Sanders to say some things in speeches and on his web page. So what now? Now do black lives matter to capitalist America, even a little bit more than before? Will black lives matter, if Sanders is made the jailer-in-chief? No, it will take a workers revolution, which Sanders and all "democratic socialists" will fight to the death.

---

By "awareness," leftists mean reformist illusions. Politics is not a "conversation" it is a struggle for power between antagonistic classes.

[willowtooth]

I looked. She was in high school att. Supposedly no longer a Republican. The Christian shit I saw is rather typical in the US(Christian relatives annoy me:unsure:).she might not be voting republican in the next election but she's still a christian fundamentalist

this is her response to people criticizing her


Please note…
I am only as respectable as the cross.
I am only as apologetic as he cross.
I am only as concerned with worldy powers as the cross.
I am only as concerned about upward mobility as the cross.
I am only as neutral, as polite, and as comforting as the cross.
I am only as rational as the cross.
This is my offering. The Spirit convicts, directs, and affirms me.
But this shit is scandalous. That is the call of discipleship.
I live like the resurrection is coming and Christ is sovereign. It is utter foolishness. It is life.
I do not worship Caesar. I cannot partake in Babylon. I cannot serve two master.
Believe, I have made my choice.
‪#‎narrowistheroad‬
‪#‎blacklivesmatter‬

she might as well have put "oh yeah and fuck the jews and muzzies" at the bottom:laugh:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/

[willowtooth]

BLM (the actual org) apologizes for the two women who did this, it's interesting too note that she called herself a co-founder of black lives matter, when she's not one

The movement was co-founded by three black activists: Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi.


Black Lives Matter wants the two women who shut down a Bernie Sanders event in Seattle on Saturday to publicly apologize to the Senator and Presidential Candidate.

Jason Easley wrote about Marissa Johnson and Mara Willaford shutting down Bernie Sanders’ rally in Seattle.

They led organizers and the media to believe they are part of Black Lives Matter. It’s not hard to understand why. BLM is succeeding in its efforts to raise awareness and get action on the multitude of issues that are a direct consequence of structural racism. The Black Lives Matter movement is very loosely structured without a central organization. That provides freedom to activists and supporters, but it means that BLM is also vulnerable to groups who may wish to co-opt their national reputation, as occurred on Saturday.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/10/real-black-lives-matter-wsnts-activists-publicly-apologize-bernie-sanders.html

[chimx]

i was at the rally. it was very clear they were just there to incite a reaction from the crowd.

should be noted that this wasn't just a democrat event. socialist alternative was involved in the organizing to a certain extent and sawant was speaking at the event too.

the entire think wreaked of divisive, reactionary opportunism.

[Spectre of Spartacism]

i was at the rally. it was very clear they were just there to incite a reaction from the crowd.

should be noted that this wasn't just a democrat event. socialist alternative was involved in the organizing to a certain extent and sawant was speaking at the event too.

the entire think wreaked of divisive, reactionary opportunism.

Pretty bad when "socialist" organizers are outflanked by liberal activists.

[chimx]

that assumes they were liberal activists.

[Hermes]

BLM (the actual org) apologizes for the two women who did this, it's interesting too note that she called herself a co-founder of black lives matter, when she's not one

The movement was co-founded by three black activists: Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi.



http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/10/real-black-lives-matter-wsnts-activists-publicly-apologize-bernie-sanders.html

The link you provide doesn't actually say that, though.

It links to a closed petition created by "Black Lives Matter Activists," an org. with no previous petitions, no account on social media, etc, with ~2500 signatures.

[#FF0000]

i was at the rally. it was very clear they were just there to incite a reaction from the crowd.

should be noted that this wasn't just a democrat event. socialist alternative was involved in the organizing to a certain extent and sawant was speaking at the event too.

the entire think wreaked of divisive, reactionary opportunism.

oh shit hi dude.

but yeah I saw a write-up in The Stranger that pretty much said as much and expressed disappointment over 1) the stunt itself, because a lot of women n people of color were involved in organizing the thing to start with and 2) the reaction from people in the crowd which got a little ugly at times, apparently.

[bricolage]

y'know i was thinking about it and shit like this is probably 10 times more cost effective and useful when it comes to putting a topic into "the conversation" as running your own candidate. Parties that like to run people "to raise awareness" should probably just start shouting instead.
yeah but only cos there's already a BLM movement, so the conversation already existed.
plenty of people shout about stuff and it never gets coverage.

[John Nada]

she might not be voting republican in the next election but she's still a christian fundamentalist

this is her response to people criticizing her
Please note…
I am only as respectable as the cross.
I am only as apologetic as he cross.
I am only as concerned with worldy powers as the cross.
I am only as concerned about upward mobility as the cross.
I am only as neutral, as polite, and as comforting as the cross.
I am only as rational as the cross.
This is my offering. The Spirit convicts, directs, and affirms me.
But this shit is scandalous. That is the call of discipleship.
I live like the resurrection is coming and Christ is sovereign. It is utter foolishness. It is life.
I do not worship Caesar. I cannot partake in Babylon. I cannot serve two master.
Believe, I have made my choice.
‪#‎narrowistheroad‬
‪#‎blacklivesmatte
she might as well have put "oh yeah and fuck the jews and muzzies" at the bottom:laugh:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/Well, like I said. Typical American Christian.:lol: Christianity is reactionary.
i was at the rally. it was very clear they were just there to incite a reaction from the crowd.

should be noted that this wasn't just a democrat event. socialist alternative was involved in the organizing to a certain extent and sawant was speaking at the event too.

the entire think wreaked of divisive, reactionary opportunism.Thanks for the insight. Some people in the crowd didn't react well. Kind of took me aback. But sometimes one person does something and the crowd mentality takes over. Though it looked like there might have been some coordination going on in the crowd to provoke a certain reaction.

[Comrade #138672]

How does Hillary Clinton manage to avoid the BLM activists?:confused: She's even worse than Sanders on civil rights.Easy. Make her events exclusive to rich people who can afford to pay $2,700 for a ticket.

[BIXX]

should be noted that this wasn't just a democrat event. socialist alternative was involved in the organizing to a certain extent and sawant was speaking at the event too.


So it was definitely a liberal event.

[chimx]

So it was definitely a liberal event.

by your standards, yes probably.


oh shit hi dude.

but yeah I saw a write-up in The Stranger that pretty much said as much and expressed disappointment over 1) the stunt itself, because a lot of women n people of color were involved in organizing the thing to start with and 2) the reaction from people in the crowd which got a little ugly at times, apparently.

hi

people from the NAACP, kshama sawant of socialist alternative, and washingtons only latino senator all talked about racism to a certain extent. the event was a celebration of social security and medicare, so it stayed within the confines of that. it was a pretty diverse crowd that seemed involved in the organizing of the event.

people in the crowd were pissed because the people that stormed the stage were blatantly being assholes. people alleged that some racist shit was said, but i never heard anything of that sort. just a bunch of people yelling "let bernie speak" or "get off the stage".

not that bigoted comments didnt happen, just that i never heard anything.

and like i said, this isnt really a shocker. the attitude of the woman when i saw them was pretty clear that their intention was to provoke an ugly response from the crowd.

[VivalaCuarta]

You know that most black workers were excluded from the great savior FDR's great Social Security Program that we all celebrate with Bernie.

[Spectre of Spartacism]

You know that most black workers were excluded from the great savior FDR's great Social Security Program that we all celebrate with Bernie.

Yes, agriculture and domestic work were excluded from Soc Security. We can only wonder if this had something to do with the Solid (and racist) South that was part of Roosevelt's glorious New Deal coalition.

[BIXX]

by your standards, yes probably

It isn't about my standards or your standards, its just the truth. SALT is liberal. No question.

[chimx]

god you people are exhausting to talk to. ill be back in another year or two if you havent completely cleared this forum with your majorly boring politics :lol:

[The Feral Underclass]

god you people are exhausting to talk to. ill be back in another year or two if you havent completely cleared this forum with your majorly boring politics :lol:

Lol, it's chimx.

Dude, the boring politics has always existed here. It thrives here. It's never going away.

[ckaihatsu]

You know that most black workers were excluded from the great savior FDR's great Social Security Program that we all celebrate with Bernie.





Yes, agriculture and domestic work were excluded from Soc Security. We can only wonder if this had something to do with the Solid (and racist) South that was part of Roosevelt's glorious New Deal coalition.


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Until the New Deal, blacks had shown their traditional loyalty to the party of Abraham Lincoln by voting overwhelmingly Republican. By the end of Roosevelt's first administration, however, one of the most dramatic voter shifts in American history had occurred. In 1936, some 75 percent of black voters supported the Democrats. Blacks turned to Roosevelt, in part, because his spending programs gave them a measure of relief from the Depression and, in part, because the GOP had done little to repay their earlier support.

Still, Roosevelt's record on civil rights was modest at best. Instead of using New Deal programs to promote civil rights, the administration consistently bowed to discrimination. In order to pass major New Deal legislation, Roosevelt needed the support of southern Democrats. Time and time again, he backed away from equal rights to avoid antagonizing southern whites; although, his wife, Eleanor, did take a public stand in support of civil rights.

Most New Deal programs discriminated against blacks. The NRA, for example, not only offered whites the first crack at jobs, but authorized separate and lower pay scales for blacks. The Federal Housing Authority (FHA) refused to guarantee mortgages for blacks who tried to buy in white neighborhoods, and the CCC maintained segregated camps. Furthermore, the Social Security Act excluded those job categories blacks traditionally filled.

The story in agriculture was particularly grim. Since 40 percent of all black workers made their living as sharecroppers and tenant farmers, the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA) acreage reduction hit blacks hard. White landlords could make more money by leaving land untilled than by putting land back into production. As a result, the AAA's policies forced more than 100,000 blacks off the land in 1933 and 1934. Even more galling to black leaders, the president failed to support an anti-lynching bill and a bill to abolish the poll tax. Roosevelt feared that conservative southern Democrats, who had seniority in Congress and controlled many committee chairmanships, would block his bills if he tried to fight them on the race question.

Yet, the New Deal did record a few gains in civil rights. Roosevelt named Mary McLeod Bethune, a black educator, to the advisory committee of the National Youth Administration (NYA). Thanks to her efforts, blacks received a fair share of NYA funds. The WPA was colorblind, and blacks in northern cities benefited from its work relief programs. Harold Ickes, a strong supporter of civil rights who had several blacks on his staff, poured federal funds into black schools and hospitals in the South. Most blacks appointed to New Deal posts, however, served in token positions as advisors on black affairs. At best, they achieved a new visibility in government.

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[ckaihatsu]

Jacksonville Black Lives Matter demonstrations slam police crimes, mass incarceration

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By staff

Jacksonville, FL - On August 8, activists in Jacksonville staged two demonstrations tied to the Black Lives Matter movement. In the morning, community organizers rallied for a press conference outside of the Duval Regional Juvenile Detention Center against the mass incarceration of Black youth. Later that day, young activists led a Black Lives Matter march through downtown Jacksonville against racist police crimes.

Demonstration against mass incarceration and State Attorney Angela Corey at the Juvenile Detention Center

Around 11:00 a.m., the Jacksonville Progressive Coalition (JPC) gathered outside of Duval Regional Juvenile Detention Center to speak out against State Attorney Angela Corey and racist prosecution practices that target Black youth. Corey's 4th Judicial Circuit leads the state of Florida in the charging of Black male juveniles as adults. However, Corey has never charged a police officer in her circuit with unlawful use of force, despite dozens of police killings in her nearly seven years in office.

Activists gathered around a banner with the slogan, “Black Lives Matter,” while handing out literature about mass incarceration to participants, spectators and media. Several members of the JPC and the community spoke about Corey and her role in the mass incarceration of Black people, particularly juveniles, in Duval County.

“We are here today at this Juvenile Detention Center to break the silence in Jacksonville concerning Angela Corey's mass incarceration regime,” said Wells Todd, a lead organizer with the JPC, during a speech at the event. “We are here today to speak out against our children being tried as adults. We are here to speak out against the intimidation tactics used by Angela Corey's office, intimidating children and their families into taking plea deals when there is not enough evidence to take the case to trial.”

Todd continued, “We are here because Angela Corey is building her career on the backs of our children, and we are saying we mean to stop her.”

After Todd's speech, the nearly 20-person crowd chanted “1, 2, 3, 4, Angela Corey out the door. 5, 6, 7, 8, we want justice, we can't wait.” Undeterred by the blistering Florida heat and the half dozen police cars that encircled the facility, they continued chanting for over an hour. Cars and cyclists that rode by honked and waved in support.

Other speakers at the demonstration tied the struggle against Corey with the Black Lives Matter movement around the country.

“We say 'Black Lives Matter' because Black lives have never mattered under this system,” said Connell Crooms, a member of the JPC and a deaf community organizer in Jacksonville. “This is an opportune time to force the issue. We can no longer be ignored. We will no longer be ignored.”

Youth-led Black Lives Matter courthouse rally marches through downtown

Later in the afternoon, more than 50 people from the Jacksonville community gathered outside the Duval County Courthouse. The event, organized by the newly formed Black Lives Matter Jax (BLMJAX), drew an energetic crowd of mostly young African-Americans.

“I think it is important to march for Black Lives Matter because it’s our job as millennials to take on this responsibility of fighting this new breed of racism, which is institutional,” said Joshua Parks, one of the main organizers of the event and a student at Howard University. “This form of racism is rather oblique. So it is our responsibility not only to bring attention and awareness to this issue through protest, civil disobedience and demonstration, but to also take action in attacking this covert system and all of the structures that uphold it.”

The crowd marched through downtown Jacksonville and chanted, “Hey hey, ho ho, the New Jim Crow has got to go,” and “No justice, no peace, no racist police.” Some carried signs that read “Jail killer cops, not Black youth,” “Angela Corey out now,” and “Straight outta patience,” the latter inspired by the album Straight Outta Compton by the hip-hop group N.W.A.

At the Landing, a popular tourist spot on the Saint Johns River in downtown, the crowd regrouped for a brief community discussion on racism and police crimes nationally. Speakers talked about the need to build a movement against white supremacy and discussed strategies to empower one another locally.

Members of BLMJAX spoke about many of the police crimes committed across the country, such as the suspicious circumstances of Sandra Bland's death in Texas. Bland was found dead in jail after a routine traffic stop.

D'Angelo Stallworth and police crimes in Jacksonville

A couple speakers at both events talked about the murder of 28-year-old African American D'Angelo Stallworth in Jacksonville on May 12. Stallworth, father of three, was shot six times by two white police officers, who claimed that they thought D'Angelo looked suspicious. He was unarmed at the time of the shooting, and an independent autopsy ordered by the family indicates that police shot him in the back as he ran away – in other words, executing him.

To date, State Attorney Angela Corey has not indicted either officer. JSO has refused to release the names of the two officers to the public.

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[Nial Fossjet]

You know that most black workers were excluded from the great savior FDR's great Social Security Program that we all celebrate with Bernie.

Okay, then have him talk more about LBJ's Great Society, then, and how it shoudl be brought back minus the wars in Indochina.

[Ocean Seal]

Okay, this is some shit I really don't get. I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders - weak-sauce social democrats are nowhere near promoters of real working class liberation. But why are BlackLivesMatter activists attacking Sanders of all people? With the blatant racism of Donald Trump surging his position in the polls, why isn't BlackLivesMatter targeting people who haven't had a consistent track record of supporting the African-American community?

Granted, it is a poor choice on Sanders' part for his lack of addressing the struggles blacks face in America (I think most likely because those on the left take votes from the black community for granted), but it feels like they're bashing him as if he's campaigning for whites-only universal health care and the reinforcement of systematic segregation.

Whilst I think Sanders truly believes what he says (as weak-kneed as it might be), I'm positive Clinton is spewing whatever she thinks people will like to get elected.
Because Sanders in theory is supposed to be responsive to these issues.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

"I'm not going to speak until everyone's listening. I can wait".

Great opening lines :lol:

But yeah Sanders is pretty un-inspiring tbh and BLM in general does an important job, just thought those were the most patronising two sentences to use in that situation .

[Gunsmas]

So are BLM just ignoring Hillarys campaign? Do they also intend to storm the stage there?

[Observational Change]

This woman is a Christian fundamentalist telling us to bow-down and submit to 'Christ is Sovereign'. She's anti-left and it is foolish to think otherwise. For her, socialism, communism, social democracy, Jews, atheists, they're all world-powers that should *direct-quote* "bow-down" to Jesus and quit being secularists.

[Synergy]

So are BLM just ignoring Hillarys campaign? Do they also intend to storm the stage there?

They had a backroom discussion with her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eCraUvIq-s

[Gunsmas]

They had a backroom discussion with her.


More evidence then that a great number of them are being used as pawns by the Hillary campaign.

[BIXX]

Man people are discussing this shit like its actually important

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

Man people are discussing this shit like its actually important

how else are we supposed to desperately try and look relevant?

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

read this?

The Left’s Self-Destructive Obsession with Shame (http://www.orchestratedpulse.com/2014/08/shame-left/); http://www.orchestratedpulse.com/2014/08/shame-left/

While increasing emotional literacy is awesome, I'd venture to say that rather than being inherently destructive, shame is an emotion which we are too quick to want to dismiss, or "acknowledge and discharge" as they put it there, just because it makes people feel uncomfortable.

[Sharia Lawn]

More evidence then that a great number of them are being used as pawns by the Hillary campaign.

A perfect description of the whole Bernie Sanders campaign.

[Rafiq]

So are BLM just ignoring Hillarys campaign? Do they also intend to storm the stage there?

The difference, however, is that it is well acknowledged and openly known that Hillary's campaign is an establishment campaign. Sanders holds the mantle of the people's dissatisfaction, he has no affirmative program, he is purely a negative force - a 'no' to the current state of things. He holds the responsibility of answering for it in its entirety.

As such, there can be no talk of "sabotaging" his campaign. Instead, we ought to use this campaign as a platform to agitate, discuss and yes - even call him out on his meekness. Sanders is, at the present moment, a political panacea mongerer. That is to say, unlike Syriza (whose promises are very succinct, straight-to-the-point and clear) Sanders presents himself as the ends-all solution to the present crisis, but he doesn't do it in a way which is clear - his IMMEDIATE reforms are vague, and not even feasible. Meanwhile people like Varoufakis openly claim that their goal is to give working people breathing space to discuss alternatives to capitalism itself.

Of course, which doesn't count for much on its own - but the point being is that Sanders is a force of dissatisfaction with the present state of things. He therefore is responsible - holds the mantle of responsibility to answer for the ENTIRETY of the dissatisfaction of people, ALL the problems that they PRESENTLY face, INCLUDING young hysterical BLM activists. This does not "undermine" his campaign, because the basis of his popularity has NOTHING to with any kind of immediate program. Should Communists oppose Sanders? No, but they shouldn't defend him against attacks like these. Precisely because Sanders does not effectively solve the black question - and NO, we should NOT strive for placing a political emphasis on 'inequality' - for this is not enough.

Even as a vague form of populism, to oppose 'inequality' detracts from how relations of power directly relate to people - not simply exploitation in any sophisticated sense, but oppression, domination, etc. in general. Inequality merely refers to hoarding too big a piece of the pie - but embedded in any real political movement there must be an alternative pie - and I do not simply mean Socialism, even reform could constitute an alternative pie. What this means isn't that reformism is to be pursued - but AS a reformist, sanders does not even properly qualify. This means that all the phrase-mongering Left philistines bestow upon him far too much credit when they prattle of "reformism". So to conclude, we ought not to oppose Sanders, but we also need to recognize that there is basis for agitation here.

[Fourth Internationalist]

Should Communists oppose Sanders? No

We shouldn't oppose capitalist politicians. Okay. Sure. Let's go with that.