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Sinister Intents
3rd August 2015, 17:08
https://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/socialization-matters-why-identity-libertarianism-is-failed-politics/

Rudolf
3rd August 2015, 17:34
That site seems terfy

Sinister Intents
3rd August 2015, 17:48
Yah it does, but the article is still interesting

Although it does say there's no prerequisite for being female

BIXX
3rd August 2015, 18:27
"Along the same lines, if the political fashion of “identity libertarianism” dictates that all social groups must be open to all individuals at all times, there is nothing to prevent a member of the oppressor class from seeking entrance to the world of the oppressed for nefarious purposes."

"Second, by reducing the substance of group membership to nothing more than self-definition, those who support “identity libertarianism” also seem oblivious to the fact that one cannot leave an oppressed group as easily as others seem able to join it. Applied broadly it should be clear why “identity libertarianism” is bad theory. For example, “identity libertarianism” would suppose it was possible for a female-bodied person to fend off a rapist by informing her attacker she identifies as a male. Or possible for a person of color to defend himself against racial profiling by saying he identifies as white."

"Instead, “identity libertarianism” frames social distress as a personal problem that is best resolved on an individual level without any regard to enforced patterns of social stratification and cumulative socialization that demoralize entire groups of people."

Just picked out some quotes that feel full of shit to me.

I think the article had some interesting points but I think it 100% fails to actively analyze what queerness is and it results in a more than mild transphobia (cause of course a man is trying to infiltrate their woman-only spaces by saying he's a woman, there is no possible way that she is actually a woman. /s). On the other hand I do think it goes a little to show why sex is a construct so that's kinda cool I guess.