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Sasha
27th July 2015, 20:37
I cant find a decent English language article yet but after months of pogrom like violence against refugee's and those that support them, all over Germany but especially in the town of Freital near Dresden (only this weekend there where serious riots during a anti-refugee demonstration in Dresen organized by the neo-nazi NDP) today the fash escalated their violence with a bomb attack on the car of the local leader of the leftist Die Linke party; http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2015-07/achsen-sprengstoff-anschlag-auto-michael-richter

Sasha
27th July 2015, 20:41
also this weekend 300 "locals" with baseball bats attacked a refugee center in the town of Mainstockheim, the 20 residents got moved elsewhere for their safety.

cyu
28th July 2015, 01:24
Refugee centers (and perhaps Greece) are the new Warsaw Ghetto.

Perhaps the question to ask is, if anything could have been done in the past to save the people in the Warsaw Ghetto, we should be doing them today. If it was already too late to save people in the Warsaw Ghetto, is it too late to save people in Greece or refugee centers today?

OnFire
31st July 2015, 17:20
I agree, in the 40s it were the KZs, now they are called centers for asylum seekers where people are forced to "live". Germany is drifting sadly towards the right nowadays, with neonazi groups like PEGIDA and AfD gaining more support every day. I do not knowwhy this is, this seems to be an european trend.

Tim Cornelis
31st July 2015, 18:58
PEGIDA and AfD are not "neonazi" groups. But what can you suspect from someone with a fuckin' Stasi avatar? Good politics? Accurate analysis? Of course not.

OnFire
31st July 2015, 20:13
Sad that you are falling for right propaganda and misinformation.
Please check out these links from taz, a very left but still serious newspaper:

AfD:
http://www.taz.de/!5032522/
http://www.taz.de/!5212369/

Pegida:
http://www.taz.de/!5017613/
http://www.taz.de/!5023069/

Little reminder, this is the founder and leader of Pegida, Lutz Bachmann:

http://i.imgur.com/nkKRtXH.png

If you still think these are not 100% nationalists and right extremists then who is ???

Tim Cornelis
31st July 2015, 21:11
Nationalism and extreme rightism isn't synonymous with neonazism. You probably think the Kronstadt sailors were neo-nazis.

Црвена
31st July 2015, 21:21
Active, genuinely neo-Nazi groups are rare these days, I think. There are plenty of nationalist and far-right organisations, but these aren't necessarily neo-Nazi. "Nazi," like "fascist," has become a word to chuck around when describing every nationalist, reactionary or "authoritarian," group.

Alet
31st July 2015, 21:42
Racist violence is on the rise. The German Interior Ministry registered 173 instances of criminal right-wing offenses against accommodations for asylum-seekers during the first six months of this year, almost three times as many as during the same period the previous year.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-registers-sharp-increase-in-attacks-on-asylumseekers-a-1045207.html

For comparison: There were 24 attacks on accommodations for refugees in 2012, 58 in 2013 and 150 in 2014. Right-wing terrorism seems to be growing in Germany.


PEGIDA and AfD are not "neonazi" groups. But what can you suspect from someone with a fuckin' Stasi avatar? Good politics? Accurate analysis? Of course not.

Since most people stopped going to PEGIDA demonstrations, mostly neo-Nazis remained, though. Well, at least in Nürnberg and Berlin, I'm not sure about Dresden.
However, we have to draw a clear line between nationalism / xenophobia and neo-Nazism. AfD members might be these dumb right-wing pseudo-intellectuals we all hate, but they are not neo-Nazis. We cannot call everybody whose opinion we do not like a Nazi.

StromboliFucker666
31st July 2015, 22:31
Fascists are doing horrible things? Nothing new here folks.

cyu
31st July 2015, 22:42
If Hitler fanboys in the underclass want to bring back the old Nazi days, they're heading into a dead-end. Fascism is not the type of ideology that can succeed without upper class support.

The only real danger of a resurgence of fascism is when members of the ruling class resort to promoting it, in an attempt to save their own asses. There is no real reason for people in power to go after Jewish people, gay people, or whatever, but they do have a real fear of anti-capitalist movements. If they go after immigrants or other minorities, it is just a distraction and scapegoating tactic - it won't solve any general political problems, it just solves the political problem of people blaming the ruling class, by redirecting attention elsewhere.