Who killed JFK?

[Y2A]

1) Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone.
2) Lee Harvey Oswald working with accomplices.
3) The CIA
4) The Soviet KGB
5) Other

[Dirty Commie]

Lee Harvey Oswald, but if the CIA wanted to they could have stopped him at any time.

He lived in the USSR for a number of years, had a lengthy police record, and was a known Castro supporter...in 1963 you would have been watched and heard everywhere you went if you did this


I heard somewhere (unverified) that one of his friends was an undercover FBI agent.

[Lardlad95]

Dave Chappelle (As the Black president): Well I've got something else to tell you...you want to know who REALLY killed John F. Kennedy? Do you? It was Lee Harvey Oswald...he acted alone and by himeself....with a magic bullet. Yes magic does exist, we've known it for some time now

Crowd: (chaters)

Dave Chappelle: You still think you can handle my job? DO YOU? Well check this out...I have here...the cure for aids.....(throws it to a reporter) here have some fun this weekend...Also i'd like you to meet Trisha(girl walks out on stage)...now meet her again and again(two more copies of her walk out). Trisha is the first cloned human.....ok get off the stage hoes...(stops teh last Trisha) storry about last night..here take the aids cure

[Dirty Commie]

I'm convinced that there was at least one other shooter, but whether he was KGB, CIA, Oswald's associate, a random guy with a gun or someone else I don't know.

It was my grandfather, who was the Lindburgh baby, who was abducted by aliens and then crashed their flying saucer into Roswell in an attempt to escape ;)

[Fidel Castro]

Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone. Remeber folks that there dosn't always have to be some conspiracy begind every event. This was just a loner who decided one day to kill the president.

[j.guevara]

The loner theory just leaves out so many real questions. Oswald had a shady past and some shady connections. Also his support for Castro may have been a front. Oswald was handing out pro-Castro pamphlets that had the address of an FBi office. After Bay of Pigs Kennedy fired the head of the CIA and some other top CIA cause he thought they set him up to look bad. After he was murdered they all got their jobs back within a day and lead the investigation of his murder. A good bulk of the information in the film JFK is true ( although i know people on here thinks its all bullshit)

[Red, Green, and Gold]

Personally, I think that Oswald was nothing but a crazed loner, no consipiracy involved. Yes, he had a "shady past," but if any life were scrutinized such as Oswald's has been, certain "shady" things might be found.

[John Galt]

It was the international clothing industry.

he was killed by male models

[Y2A]

As I said in the other thread telum, there are some questions that do come up with the bullet. As ROB (pay no attention to this Che members) pointed out in the other thread. The enterence wound was located on the front of his neck. How could it be that this is possible while Oswald was behind him?

[John Galt]

Do yourself a favor.

Get a copy of zoolander, and watch it

[Y2A]

Does anyone think that single bullet theory is possible? (Even though the doctors pretty much rule it out by saying the enterence wound was in the front of the neck.)?

Will do Telum.

[timbaly]

I saw a program on ABC where this one man made the case that it was Oswald acting alone, it was very convincing. Previously I had believed it ws Oswald, but i think it might convince others into believing it as well. Although those who believe in the conspiracy will claim that the program was simply part of it. I've also heard that members of the French Connection admitted to being a part of the assasination. There was an entire program about it on the History Channel.

[timbaly]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 08:51 PM
Does anyone think that single bullet theory is possible? (Even though the doctors pretty much rule it out by saying the enterence wound was in the front of the neck.)?


On that ABC program in November a man recreated the shooting digitally. When the shot was demonstrated it showed that the bullet that went through Kennedy's neck was the same one that hit the man riding with him. ( was it the texan governor?) The man claimed shot from the window lined up perfectly with the neck of Kennedy. Digitally it all worked out. But, he claimed the entrance wound was from the back, not the front.

[Individual]

Not to go along with the flow. However I do not know how many (if any) of you saw all of the shows, during Kennedys reunion this year, on the History Channel. They had very logical explanations, with an abundance of evidence on the subject and his possible assasin(s).

Along with what Timbaly has said, I saw a similar thing on the History channel. However THC provided a lot more indepth look than Timbaly explains ABC did.

I do believe it was Lee Harvery Oswald acting alone. Very odd consequence of the bullet, however they were able to show underlying proof that all of the counter-arguments were false. I strongly believe it was one man, from the floor and window Harvey was.

All of the information I got is to long to explain on here. Any quesions one might have against this theory, I am willing/able to discuss as I remember much of what THC presented. Actually I would be happy to discuss.

[shintso]

i think it was Mrs. White with a knife in the library

[Individual]

No! It would of had to have been Ms. Scarlett with the revolver on the front lawn!

[Solace]

I firmly believe that it was Marylin Monroe.

[j.guevara]

Have you seen the Zapruder Film??? he was clearly shot in the front of his head. Oswald could not have fired the coup de gra. And the ABC show...was on ABC.

[Individual]

Yes, this was another point covered in the History Channel.

This was assumed due to the fact that JFK's head jerked backwards as he was shot.

A specialist(of some sort, non-government worker) set up a similar test. Using a dead animal carcass and head. He shot at the carcass head with the same make rifle, and bullet. He put paint in the animal carcass head to see where it would splatter.

Having shot the head from the back of the skull. The head jerked back, as did JFK's. He repeated this test a few more times, all with same results. This meaning that JFK's head would of jerked back, as it did, from being shot from behind. Everything was conclusive with no contradicting evidence in the test.

This may not sound like hard evidence, however I cannot tell the proof as it was on the show. Again, nobody will positively know, however everything that was presented to make, gives answers to all of the theories I have previously heard. As much as we don't want to believe the government was correct, I do believe it was Oswald.

[RedCeltic]

Lee said himself that he was just a patsy.

Plus, it's pretty much impossible for him to have been a lone gunman, unless he was somehow able to craft magical ammo. That, had already been mentioned in this thread. There were multiple enterypoints, and it is also known that some rounds missed. Not only would Lee have been unable to get off that many rounds, but there was a tree in his line of sight.


Say even if Oswald was a lone gunman there I stull suspect he was working for someone.


Personally, I do not think that it was the CIA, but I do think it was people in the US govt and/or right wing extremist groups (like the John Burch society) that thought he was too soft on communism.

I seriously do not think it was the KGB. Kennedy was someone that Soviet Union could work with.Someone who favored diplomacy over militery might. To kill JFK would have accomplished what for the Soviet Union?

JFK had more than entertained the notion of pulling troops out of Vietnam, he had full intent of doing just that. While that fact was suppressed by the media, it was well known by his opponants, and it was also well known that Johnson was opposed to the idea of letting communism gain yet another foothold in Asia.

So I would say that it was most likely linked to anti-communist extremism.

[Sabocat]

No way that Oswald made that shot with that piece of crap rifle. It was the wrong angle anyway. It was shooters near the train yard and the grassy knoll. People interviewed said they heard shots directly behind them (from the knoll area). You can't just explain away Connolly's injuries. They don't make any sense coming from the depository bldg.

Of course the History had a special about it and it made Oswald look like the shooter. :lol: They ought to call it the revisionist history channel.

Inside job all the way.

But other than that....who cares?

[guerrillaradio]

I watched JFK (all 3hrs of it) and forgot its conclusion. Anyone wanna remind me??

[bubbrubb]

i think oswald may have had something to do with it but i dont think he acted alone. there were tow wounds and the angles were too different. the american people just want to believe they go the right guy.

maybe it was...aliens :blink:

[Individual]

No way that Oswald made that shot with that piece of crap rifle. It was the wrong angle anyway. It was shooters near the train yard and the grassy knoll. People interviewed said they heard shots directly behind them (from the knoll area). You can't just explain away Connolly's injuries. They don't make any sense coming from the depository bldg.

If you would have watched the evidence presented, Connolly's entry wound, and his internal damage would all make sense. The bullet went through JFK, and into Connolly's body. They lined up the trajectory of the bullet. With all of the videos of the impact moment, they were able to line up JFK's exit wound with Connolly's entry wound, which all were on a straight line to the building floor, and window that Oswald was in.

You are going to argue that they just don't make sense, when clear evidence, by actual scientists (non-government funded) proves that the line of the bullet was correct. You deny this only because it doesn't make sense?

People interviewed said that the police didn't beat Rodney King that bad. You are going by what civillians heard? You deny all of this information because some people heard things, and it doesn't make sense? Oh, wait, he had a crappy rifle too. Ok, now I believe your theory?


Say even if Oswald was a lone gunman there I stull suspect he was working for someone.

He probably was working for someone, however my point was that he was the shooter.

[j.guevara]

About the Zupruder Film, i understand that his head movement is up for debate but his brains got blown out the back off his head all over the car and the road because the exit wound was in the back.

[timbaly]

Did anyone see a History Channel program about a man who tried to solve the assasination and ended up getting confessions from members of the French Connection that they had a contract on the president? By the look of the footage it seemed to have occured in the late 70's or 80's.

[Comrade Ceausescu]

I think it was Oswald.This case is esentially solved.I do not think he was working for anyone.He may have had motives that were sane though.Maybe he thought he was doing a favor for America,or Cuba.Cuba in the sense that he was getting revenge on Kennedy for all the bad things he did to that nation.While these aren't the most logical thoughts,I do not think he did it for some truly,truly insane reason.Like the guy who tried to kill Reagan or something.

[Individual]

And why do you think that this guy put paint inside of the carcass head?

Obviously the splatter was a big issue. Hence putting paint in the head. The paint splatter also came out of the back of the head, as the head jerked back. However the bullet shot throught the back and out the front. Every single time he performed the test, he came across the same results.

So this should really prove that he was shot in the back of the head, not from the front, and clearly not from any side. From the other evidence of the other bullet that went through JFK, they lined up the line of the bullet, and the angles of the body in the video, and it precisely pointed back to the exact spot where Oswald was. How can you argue this evidence. What can you possible say, that hasn't been proven false? What else could there possibly be? A real magic bullet that looped around in the air and shot him from the back, to try and pin in on a guy that just happened to be in a window with a gun?

[el_profe]

ON the history channel they had for one week "The men who killed kennedy" They gave documentaries on from a whole bucn of opinions. I think it was deffinetly not Oswald alone, maybe he was not even involved.

The way everything was handeled put a whole cloud of suspicion on the CIA and/0r Lyndon B. Johnson, on the documentary they showed how some political "enemies" of Lyndon B. Johnson had been killed in Texas inculding one person who was investigating Lyndon B. Johson for various reasons, this person was shot 5 times when getting out of his car, yet the police said it was a suicide. Also since Johnson was from texas and had so much power in texas they think he had something to do with the fact that the murder was made in texas.

They also showed a pictures of what lookas like a shadow of a man with a gun shooting from a wall that was to the right of kennedy, 2 other people that took better pictures right during the shot(and had theyre cameras looking at kennedy from the left side and in the backround that wall with the man with the rifle could be seen) have never had there cameras returned. Also because of the fact that doctors and nurses say that kennedy had a hole in his head and in the picture released there was no shot in the head. NOt even a sign that a shot had gone through his head. Anyway they had alot of intersting stuff on that documentary.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s/johnson_jfk_2 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040203/ap_on_re_us/johnson_jfk_2)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...v/johnson_jfk_1 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040205/ap_on_en_tv/johnson_jfk_1)

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2004, 03:44 PM

No way that Oswald made that shot with that piece of crap rifle. It was the wrong angle anyway. It was shooters near the train yard and the grassy knoll. People interviewed said they heard shots directly behind them (from the knoll area). You can't just explain away Connolly's injuries. They don't make any sense coming from the depository bldg.

If you would have watched the evidence presented, Connolly's entry wound, and his internal damage would all make sense. The bullet went through JFK, and into Connolly's body. They lined up the trajectory of the bullet. With all of the videos of the impact moment, they were able to line up JFK's exit wound with Connolly's entry wound, which all were on a straight line to the building floor, and window that Oswald was in.

You are going to argue that they just don't make sense, when clear evidence, by actual scientists (non-government funded) proves that the line of the bullet was correct. You deny this only because it doesn't make sense?

People interviewed said that the police didn't beat Rodney King that bad. You are going by what civillians heard? You deny all of this information because some people heard things, and it doesn't make sense? Oh, wait, he had a crappy rifle too. Ok, now I believe your theory?


Say even if Oswald was a lone gunman there I stull suspect he was working for someone.

He probably was working for someone, however my point was that he was the shooter.
The problem is of course that no one can even agree on the actual placement of the massive wound on the back of the head. It was represented at least 3 different ways. The placement of that wound of course being critical to the argument of the single bullet theory.

The magic bullet, (that the Warren Commission's case was based on) that was conveniently found on the stretcher at Parkland hospital was in pristine condition. There is no way that a bullet that created all that damage would be un-deformed like that.

The other nagging question is that the one piece of evidence that would have definitively shown the placement of the wound, was Kennedy's brain and ooops! Someone misplaced it. How convenient.

Remember too that a few years later, they took a Marine Sharpshooter, gave him the same rifle and he was unable to reproduce the shot. It was too fast to accurately be performed from that bolt action rifle.