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1stworldview
4th July 2015, 04:00
On Tuesday on the Jimmy Fallon show presidential candidate Jeb Bush spoke about the first meeting between himself and his future foreign bride, Columba. " It was love at first sight. I spoke little Spanish and she spoke little English, but when you are in love you can overcome those barriers pretty quick. There's another language that matters the most."

John Ellis "Jeb" Bush is an American businessman and politician who served as the 43rd Governor of Florida from 1999 to 2007. He is the second son of former President George H. W. Bush and former First Lady Barbara Bush, and the younger brother of former President George W. Bush.

Bush met his wife while in Leon, Mexico helping to build homes. León is a city in the Mexican state of Guanajuato. They married a few years later in Austin, Texas, and now live in Coral Gables, Florida.

Is there a difference between Jeb Bush's Foreign Bride and so called Mail Order Brides? Feminists and women rights groups have argued for years that men who travel across boarders for love take advantage of women that come from lower economic regions. In 2005 the Tahirih Justice Center and Senator Cantwell pushed legislation regulating foreign brides, stating that men take unfair advantage of women in foreign counties. The law (IMBRA ) requires marriage brokers to run background checks on all men that seek a foreign bride. Bush's wife was underage at the time they met and came from one of the poorest areas of central America. Did Jeb Bush then take advantage of his future wife Columba? After all she came from poverty and Jeb Bush came from a powerful, wealthy family.

Kenneth Agee, Marketing Director of A Foreign Affair, a company that specializes in foreign bride match-making says, "Absolutely not! In our society and most societies women are always looking to find a better way of life. It is instinctual for females to find the best possible suitor for having a family, just like it is instinctual for men to be attracted to certain physical aspects of women. How would marrying into wealth make you a victim? The notion that men have economic control of women, at best, would not last long after marriage. It is equally invalid to say women have a control over men because of their beauty. The truth is, a negative situation can happen no matter where you meet and has more to do with character than economics or location. Personally, my wife is from Russia, is very strong-willed, and would never let herself become a victim. I find this to be true of most foreign women. I'm sure Jeb Bush would agree. Contrary to the opinion of Terra Justice Center, an INS study showed there were fewer issues with cross-border marriages than domestic marriages. In fact they have a much higher success rate"

And Jeb Bush is not the only candidate with a foreign-born wife. Candidate Donald Trump is also currently married to Melania Trump, a former model from Slovenia. Donald Trump's first wife, Ivana, is from the Czech Republic.

Marrying foreign women is becoming a trend for the elite. FOX News CEO Rupert Murdoch is married to Wendi Deng Murdoch from Jinan, China, with a 38 year age difference.

Yet feminists continue to argue that men seek foreign brides only because they lack the necessary social skills to find someone in the US. This is clearly not the case, as these successful men do not lack socials skills.

Society has changed greatly over the years and love has no borders. Looking worldwide for love is becoming the norm now. Each week companies like A Foreign Affair take dozens of men to countries all over the world where they attend social events, meeting hundreds of beautiful women and models, who like themselves are serious about finding true love and marriage. These men are from many varied walks of life: doctors, CEOs, policemen, businessmen, you name it. You don't have to be a Bush or Trump to see the advantage of looking abroad for real love.

With two candidates, Jed Bush and Donald Trump, both married to foreign brides, we could see our first foreign-born First Lady in the White House.

mushroompizza
5th July 2015, 17:56
I doubt Jeb "took advantage of her", even if he did what would have been the better thing to happen she stay dirt poor and live in mexico?

Rafiq
5th July 2015, 18:38
I doubt Jeb "took advantage of her", even if he did what would have been the better thing to happen she stay dirt poor and live in mexico?

Really, what the fuck am I reading? I thought we had a tacit understanding that our ethical standards are ABOVE this!

Certainly, yes, she ought to be grateful that some sick slimy piece of shit showered her in riches, rescuing her on his white horse form that abominable, remote and marginal hell wherein poverty is just a "natural" given, divorced from the same system that allows white slimy pieces of shit to cross the border looking for sexual adventure. What you fail to understand is that the point of concern is not the happiness of the women, or even the sum-total of her well being, but the reality that her only way to be free from being "dirt poor living in Mexico" was through some scumfuck castration-worthy piece of trash "rescuing" her.

Take an example: A pedophile takes advantage of a young girl living in Bangladesh and brings her to western Europe to live in his mansion. Her condition in Bangladesh was deplorable, but this does not make it a hair better that some sick motherfucker took advantage of her.

My god, this is BASIC Communist ethics that one shouldn't even have to struggle with consciously to understand. Mushroompizza, you are by far the most obnoxious user on this website. I cannot believe users here have had the patience to tolerate you, I cannot believe the administrators cannot spot out what a rodent you are, and I cannot believe that someone with such a poor understanding of our struggle has failed to confine himself to the learning forum.

Antiochus
5th July 2015, 18:49
Escalated quickly
http://cdn.meme.am/images/2745079.jpg

Now, I don't know the 'story'. I did know his wife was Mexican, but I assumed she was just an aristocratic Mexican from DF; in which case their marriage would be perfectly standard.



Contrary to the opinion of Terra Justice Center, an INS study showed there were fewer issues with cross-border marriages than domestic marriages. In fact they have a much higher success rate


And this, I think, encapsulates the general problem with 'the family'. It just becomes a silly statistical tool that aims to provide 'stability'. I am sure divorce rates in Afghanistan are less than 10%; but I doubt even the most cynical conservative would claim this is due to the success of their personal family relations.

What is disturbing is that this 'moral panic' that is now lending itself to sexual exploitation abroad (go and look up a youtube documentary about these men in Odessa), is not new, but it is now legitimized at large.

When men look for a wife abroad, as in specifically look for one, not 'fall in love' with a woman at random, there should be no distinction between that person and a Roman aristocrat cruising through a slave shop to buy his next boy or girl.

Rafiq
5th July 2015, 18:58
Oh and this little gem: It is instinctual for females to find the best possible suitor for having a family, just like it is instinctual for men to be attracted to certain physical aspects of women.

Castrate this motherfucker and hang him by the fucking balls. As Kamo would do, rip out his fucking heart and eat it. THIS is the practical ideological power of ecology fetishism in our society, which sustains evolutionary psychology. "It is INSTINCTUAL" claims this fucking philistine, "for females to find the best possible suitor for having a family, just like it is INSTINCTUAL for men to be attracted to certain physical aspects of women" - yes, it is encoded in our DNA, this peddler of human flesh would have us believe, this scum of scum, this not-even-worthy of the most painful, the most grotesque death. Strip this motherfucker naked and rip out his intestine, churn his flesh in the thresher of the revolution, this vulture who sells the dead meat of those women churned by the thresher of capitalism and exploitation. With pretenses to "instinct" is such a condition justified, the deplorable condition of women in Eastern Europe and South America, for the women in foraging societies who seeks out the best hunter is comparable to the slavery, degradation, de-humanization of those women living in the waste-bins of capital who cannot live without being the object of desire to the desperate white males in the imperialist countries so much as to survive and live a life of minor dignity, vitality and comfort.

Such is the sick, depraved mortification of women in capitalism - ALL they can be is the object of desire to men, so long as men fill their due and fulfill their lives with an iota of dignity and meaning through the ABSENCE of the hell of poverty. Do you know what a SICK fucking logic this is? Let us say it is even true that men look for the "best physical aspects of women" in hunting and foraging societies. Why would it not follow that the opposite holds true? Because the male breadwinner, apparently, is the sole source of active survival in such societies when in fact women were known to contribute an equal share of work in them? Men are valued in such a society that would allegedly form "instinct" by merit of active, practical considerations but women are just dead meat waiting to be fucked into pregnancy?

The terror of the revolution is not simply a necessary evil, it sanctifies our cause as a just one, it sanctifies everything that could ever be worth fighting for. If the revolution does not see to the most painful and gruesome death of such men, then the revolution has failed to cleanse the Earth of such filth.

Armchair Partisan
5th July 2015, 19:00
Uh, well, rich bourgeois male idiots can go find rich bourgeois foreign female idiots and marry them for all I care. These are not representative of an average relationship, and the fact that you have the gall to conflate this with American men taking Eastern European mail-order brides because they're cheaper than a homegrown sex worker and easier to buy the loyalty of is simply astounding. Such relationships cannot possibly be healthy.


Marrying foreign women is becoming a trend for the elite. FOX News CEO Rupert Murdoch is married to Wendi Deng Murdoch from Jinan, China, with a 38 year age difference.

Was*. Rupert divorced her when Wendi started longing after... Tony Blair. Who would have thought that a relationship with a 38 year age difference just wouldn't work out?

Antiochus
5th July 2015, 19:10
Here is the doc. if anyone is interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wW7c58nMI4

I think the first shot (43 seconds in) is actually pretty incredible. The statue of Lenin (not a Leninist but w/e) reminds me of Don Juan, where the Stone statue comes back to life and exacts vengeance. Rafiq would probably like that.

StromboliFucker666
5th July 2015, 19:18
Kinda funny that a borderline fascist is with a non-American woman. I figured he'd be the kind that refuses to marry anyone that isn't white and American.

Another thing is, why the fuck is this a trend? I have no problems with interracial relationships (I've been in two) but I do have an issue with this race fetish thing that a lot of rich people seem to be into. It should not be trendy to be with someone just because they are not americans or not white.

mushroompizza
5th July 2015, 19:47
If she was rich then how is that taking advantage of? I thought she was poor by all this taking advantage talk.

PhoenixAsh
6th July 2015, 15:35
I am the only one being more than a little suspect of the whole under age thing? When did they meet? How old was Bush at the time?

Either way.....while it is valid to politicise the concept of trends getting foreign women from poor countries I also think that some caution to surplant that on individual cases is warranted. And it is a little asinine and reductionist to immediately suspect somebodies motives based on their class...

And there is of course a huge difference between meeting somebody and falling in love than what is called a "mail order bride".

I also think the arguments as presented in the OP "lacking of social skills to get a woman from your own country" is more than a little bit racist.

Not to mention that such analysis reduces women to mere money seeking creatures based on their economic position. "ow right the white man/woman is rich....let's marry them" :glare:

The Intransigent Faction
9th July 2015, 23:37
When asked recently about overcoming a "rut" in the economy, he said "People need to work longer hours".

There's a standard and uninspired capitalist idea if I've ever heard one!

StromboliFucker666
10th July 2015, 04:35
When asked recently about overcoming a "rut" in the economy, he said "People need to work longer hours".

There's a standard and uninspired capitalist idea if I've ever heard one!

He is a complete moron, i am sure of it now.

StromboliFucker666
10th July 2015, 04:39
I am the only one being more than a little suspect of the whole under age thing? When did they meet? How old was Bush at the time?

I am curious about this too.