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7th June 2015, 19:46
How do you guys feel about it? Do you fear it at this point in your life, or look forward to being older?

Trap Queen Voxxy
7th June 2015, 20:05
How do you guys feel about it? Do you fear it at this point in your life, or look forward to being older?

I heard recently that Japanese scientists have been able to reverse aging in a cell line. I'm like Pan, I don't ever wanna grow up and I want to be young forever. :[ or atleast be like Depp in 'Transcendence.'

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7th June 2015, 20:09
I heard recently that Japanese scientists have been able to reverse aging in a cell line. I'm like Pan, I don't ever wanna grow up and I want to be young forever. :[ or atleast be like Depp in 'Transcendence.'

Well it'd be nice to look young forever but I think I'd still have anxiety the longer I lived due to the pressures and expectations to succeed at a young age

Trap Queen Voxxy
7th June 2015, 20:13
Well it'd be nice to look young forever but I think I'd still have anxiety the longer I lived due to the pressures and expectations to succeed at a young age

I have freed from myself from all expectations so much so I get applauded for doing mundane things cuz I'm "getting my life," together which is pretty cute/funny.

RedWorker
7th June 2015, 20:16
Aging has advantages and disadvantages. Thinking about it too much is pointless and usually is only bad when done in this way. Just adapt to what you are at any given time.

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7th June 2015, 20:22
Aging has advantages and disadvantages. Thinking about it too much is pointless and usually is only bad when done in this way. Just adapt to what you are at any given time.

Well some people are perfectionists with rigid thinking and they have trouble adapting, because they feel pressure to fit an ideal. This can lead to depression and anxiety disorders

BIXX
7th June 2015, 20:23
I wish I could freeze my aging process right now. Forever.

Armchair Partisan
7th June 2015, 20:23
It's... meh. I don't think much about it, I don't particularly fear it (except that I don't want to live my last 1-2 decades with massive crippling health problems). Immortality would be nice though.

Trap Queen Voxxy
7th June 2015, 20:26
I wish I could freeze my aging process right now. Forever.

We can be beautiful, forever, together :3

Counterculturalist
7th June 2015, 20:26
When I was young I was a self-destructive little bastard with a death wish and I didn't want to make it to thirty.

Then I turned thirty and realized that it was no big deal.

As 40 approaches, I'm not concerned about the number, but I'm not exactly thrilled about the physical changes that have been slowly but surely piling up: stiffness, aches and pains, fatigue, difficulty staying in shape, unbelievably painful hangovers, etc.

Philosophos
7th June 2015, 20:52
I'm terrified of death. Aging seems something really scary, but recently I started being more...relaxed should I say (?) about the issue and I enjoy life, little by little.

The good news is that my professors showed me a lot of studies which show, that you get happier the older you are (even if you have a ton of health problems) which is nice...
I guess...

Futility Personified
7th June 2015, 21:01
I only fear the regrets before dying, and perhaps dying prematurely. There have been times when I really couldn't have cared less, aside from those i'd have left behind.

My biggest worry is the things to do while i'm young, I won't be able to do. Being old wouldn't massively deflect me from things I like to do like watch films, read, play video games and listening to music. But carousing, relationships, travelling, those are much easier when you are young enough to get lost in them.

Zoop
7th June 2015, 21:03
It's not that I fear ageing in itself, it's that I fear I'll waste away my life, and end up looking back and thinking how pointless my existence was and how I did nothing with it.

Brandon's Impotent Rage
7th June 2015, 21:18
A character from one of my favorite cartoons probably sums it up best....

"The World is a dick. Fuck you for aging us, and teasing humans with love."

Cliff Paul
7th June 2015, 21:47
It's not that I fear ageing in itself, it's that I fear I'll waste away my life, and end up looking back and thinking how pointless my existence was and how I did nothing with it.

this times a million

Tim Cornelis
7th June 2015, 21:52
I have a lingering existential crisis over ageing that pops up at whatever trigger, such as this. It can also pop up whenever, say, I watch a film set in the past, or a series, or some years ago, playing Red Dead Redemption looking at the graves: 1835-1893 or whatever. Makes me contemplate about that the people that lived in those times and died in those times are anonymous and forgotten.
I get really blue at the idea of mortality.
I think about medieval peasants, masses of anonymous people that lived their lives, had friendships, relationships, drama, personalities, and none of it seems to matter. When we normally think of medieval peasants we think of them crudely, for their social role in society, their collective importance, but when I stop to think that they had feelings, memories, as individuals, and that they are gone forever without a trace it really makes me sad about my future. Forgotten and no soul to remember them. Their individual lives couldn't be more meaningless. In a million years life will go on, but I will be left behind in history, anonymous, forgotten. I'm really afraid of ageing because of my mortality, but also because I feel I don't live life to the fullest. Weeks go by so fast, years too. And what I do in those years seems so little. I don't make enough memories, and the memories I do make will be gone in a 100 years, meaningless.

I can't really put it into words. But we are so 'time-centric', we remember recent martyrs, what such and such group did, but in the longer run, no one will remember their name or faces. We live in the 'now', we have a collective experience of 'now', of current events, of TV shows, of football, and it seems important because it is now, it is happening now. But the World Cup of 1930 happened 'now' to people then, and now those involved are gone. And in the same way, the 'now' we live in today, that we consider so important, will be 'then' in the future, and we will be gone.

I hate ageing and I hate mortality.

This is not a persistent feeling by the way, when enjoying myself in a social setting I do not think of this once, it just pops up now and then.

Sinister Intents
7th June 2015, 21:59
Age doesn't affect me, and death sounds relieving and liberating from this current, wretched existence. There's no inherent point to existence so why worry about age? Eventually we will be nothing more than dust and then even the planet will be rendered nothing more by the death of the sun.

RedAnarchist
7th June 2015, 22:56
There's about 7 billion alive and 100 billion people who have lived and died. I'm still young at 29 and I would love to live for centuries more if I could, but we'll see how things go with scientific and medical advances in the next fifty or so years.

I want to age well and I want a long life. :)

The Intransigent Faction
7th June 2015, 23:22
I have a lingering existential crisis over ageing that pops up at whatever trigger, such as this. It can also pop up whenever, say, I watch a film set in the past, or a series, or some years ago, playing Red Dead Redemption looking at the graves: 1835-1893 or whatever. Makes me contemplate about that the people that lived in those times and died in those times are anonymous and forgotten.
I get really blue at the idea of mortality.
I think about medieval peasants, masses of anonymous people that lived their lives, had friendships, relationships, drama, personalities, and none of it seems to matter. When we normally think of medieval peasants we think of them crudely, for their social role in society, their collective importance, but when I stop to think that they had feelings, memories, as individuals, and that they are gone forever without a trace it really makes me sad about my future. Forgotten and no soul to remember them. Their individual lives couldn't be more meaningless. In a million years life will go on, but I will be left behind in history, anonymous, forgotten. I'm really afraid of ageing because of my mortality, but also because I feel I don't live life to the fullest. Weeks go by so fast, years too. And what I do in those years seems so little. I don't make enough memories, and the memories I do make will be gone in a 100 years, meaningless.

I can't really put it into words. But we are so 'time-centric', we remember recent martyrs, what such and such group did, but in the longer run, no one will remember their name or faces. We live in the 'now', we have a collective experience of 'now', of current events, of TV shows, of football, and it seems important because it is now, it is happening now. But the World Cup of 1930 happened 'now' to people then, and now those involved are gone. And in the same way, the 'now' we live in today, that we consider so important, will be 'then' in the future, and we will be gone.

I hate ageing and I hate mortality.

This is not a persistent feeling by the way, when enjoying myself in a social setting I do not think of this once, it just pops up now and then.

I share similar feelings, except that I'm pretty well resigned to my own complete and utter insignificance in the universe. What I am extremely bitter about is the limited window of existence allowed by human mortality. We each have around a century, if we're lucky enough to have even that long, to experience an infinitesimally small fraction of universal space and time. It's humbling, sure, but the idea that you will never at least know how it all turns out after you're gone is kinda maddening. It's like permanently wrapping part of the universe in spoiler tags.

Not to mention that we can't bring people back, but we can discover ways to prevent, treat or cure illness after they're gone that could have saved them. That, and what past revolutionaries, famous or anonymous, could have done with modern technology, they of course won't be able to do.

Os Cangaceiros
7th June 2015, 23:46
I've found that the people who are most uncomfortable with the idea of death and mortality are those who are perfectly healthy people...people who are actually dying are usually at peace with the idea of death, in my experience.

Looking at death philosophically, it's not particularly scary in my opinion...was the year 1200 scary or sad to you, personally speaking? Of course not, because you did not exist, and therefore have no conception of what it was like. Therefore your future non-existence shouldn't be scary either.

With that being said, I do go through phases of being afraid of death, and phases of being OK with it (and it even looking somewhat desirable, unfortunately). When I die I hope my body gets dumped in the ocean to be eaten by fish, crabs and sandfleas, till my bones are ground into dust on the ocean floor. I'm a fisherman who has killed and eaten untold thousands of fish so the idea of being consumed by the ocean is somewhat appealing to me.

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8th June 2015, 00:44
I don't mind death. I don't like aging tho

consuming negativity
8th June 2015, 01:06
i think i was like 8 or 9 the last time i really feared death

not to imply anything, just death has never been a big thing for me

i've always been way more worried about a painful life; being forced to live and trapped in a situation i find awful

if we couldn't check out at the end and get away from capitalism - if i knew this shit had to last forever - i would go insane

why on earth would you even want to do this shit that much

The Intransigent Faction
8th June 2015, 01:11
why on earth would you even want to do this shit that much

Absurdist masochism? :grin:

consuming negativity
8th June 2015, 05:15
Absurdist masochism? :grin:

i think i would enjoy being sisyphus a lot more than my current job tbh

Philosophos
8th June 2015, 10:37
I've found that the people who are most uncomfortable with the idea of death and mortality are those who are perfectly healthy people...people who are actually dying are usually at peace with the idea of death, in my experience.

Looking at death philosophically, it's not particularly scary in my opinion...was the year 1200 scary or sad to you, personally speaking? Of course not, because you did not exist, and therefore have no conception of what it was like. Therefore your future non-existence shouldn't be scary either.



The first is completely true. I'm a young man with no health problems, even though I smoke regularly, I exercise, have sex often, eat as healthy as possible and still I think there is something wrong with my body. I got so stressed about death at some point (without even realising it was about death itself) that my throat muscles were so tight, I thought I couldn't breath and many other stuff.

Now philosophically speaking I can't freaking imagine, how it is possible to not exist and that also scares the crap out of me. Just the idea of not being there... I don't know I might be egocentric or something :unsure:

Quail
8th June 2015, 11:12
I would like to live a long, happy life if possible. I try to be healthy now, but I worry a lot about the damage I did to my body in the past (I didn't really expect to be alive now). I don't want to live with a bunch of self-inflicted health problems in the years to come. I also have a lot of anxiety about my health in the present, often having multiple panic attacks throughout the day. I don't like the idea of not existing.

I feel very keenly our culture's obsession with looking young forever. I don't like the lines on my face, even though I'm only 24, and I'm probably the only one that notices them, and in theory I don't think there's anything wrong with the physical reality of getting older.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
8th June 2015, 12:34
I also feel very anxious about looking back and concluding that I had wasted all of my time. I feel this double because Im already aware of how much of my 20s I wasted, for 3 of those years I literally watched the moments glide by. I think thats all pretty normal though. On the other hand, the actual process of aging has been ok. I really prefer how I look now over what I looked like when I was 20, its as if I have finally broken this body in like a comfortable pair of jeans.

Ceallach_the_Witch
8th June 2015, 19:36
even at my better points i usually conclude i'm just not going to live/live with myself long enough for this to matter

Comrade Jacob
8th June 2015, 19:59
I hope I age quickly so I can die quickly.

BIXX
8th June 2015, 20:08
I've found that the people who are most uncomfortable with the idea of death and mortality are those who are perfectly healthy people...people who are actually dying are usually at peace with the idea of death, in my experience.

Looking at death philosophically, it's not particularly scary in my opinion...was the year 1200 scary or sad to you, personally speaking? Of course not, because you did not exist, and therefore have no conception of what it was like. Therefore your future non-existence shouldn't be scary either.

With that being said, I do go through phases of being afraid of death, and phases of being OK with it (and it even looking somewhat desirable, unfortunately). When I die I hope my body gets dumped in the ocean to be eaten by fish, crabs and sandfleas, till my bones are ground into dust on the ocean floor. I'm a fisherman who has killed and eaten untold thousands of fish so the idea of being consumed by the ocean is somewhat appealing to me.

I kinda wanna be left on the side of a busy road tbh when I die. I'm not so worried about dying with my worry regarding age, but how I look/feel.

BIXX
8th June 2015, 20:11
i think i was like 8 or 9 the last time i really feared death

not to imply anything, just death has never been a big thing for me

i've always been way more worried about a painful life; being forced to live and trapped in a situation i find awful

if we couldn't check out at the end and get away from capitalism - if i knew this shit had to last forever - i would go insane

why on earth would you even want to do this shit that much

Mari3L and I talked about this a bit...

What if the state, or the bourgeoisie, or whoever, had discovered through extensive research (that only they can afford obviously) that there is an afterlife? And they've colonized it... Made it just like living here, now. And you just work, forever. Alienated, forever.

How fucking horrible.

Lily Briscoe
8th June 2015, 20:42
It's not that I fear ageing in itself, it's that I fear I'll waste away my life, and end up looking back and thinking how pointless my existence was and how I did nothing with it.

Yeah but then you die and it's exactly the same whether you had a shit life that you wasted or a super fulfilling one, so not really any point worrying about it.

BIXX
8th June 2015, 21:55
yeah but then you die and it's exactly the same whether you had a shit life that you wasted or a super fulfilling one, so not really any point worrying about it.

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The Intransigent Faction
8th June 2015, 22:26
The Arrogant Worms said it best:

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Lily Briscoe
9th June 2015, 00:52
My only death-related fear that I can think of isn't a fear of death itself but of being old and alone and suffering really badly beforehand (the old and suffering part seems bearable, but the alone part is what makes it horrifying). Which is made worse by the fact that it's a pretty common scenario.

Os Cangaceiros
9th June 2015, 04:45
The first is completely true. I'm a young man with no health problems, even though I smoke regularly, I exercise, have sex often, eat as healthy as possible and still I think there is something wrong with my body. I got so stressed about death at some point (without even realising it was about death itself) that my throat muscles were so tight, I thought I couldn't breath and many other stuff.

Now philosophically speaking I can't freaking imagine, how it is possible to not exist and that also scares the crap out of me. Just the idea of not being there... I don't know I might be egocentric or something :unsure:

I actually never really thought that there was anything seriously wrong with me until I went to see the doctor and they said, uh yeah, you've got some shit that's seriously wrong with you. Add anxiety into the mix and now the situation for me is every stomach ache is ulcerative colitis, every stiff muscle is sclerosis and every headache is that goddamn undiagnosed brain tumor. :rolleyes:

BIXX
9th June 2015, 04:50
The first is completely true. I'm a young man with no health problems, even though I smoke regularly, I exercise, have sex often, eat as healthy as possible and still I think there is something wrong with my body. I got so stressed about death at some point (without even realising it was about death itself) that my throat muscles were so tight, I thought I couldn't breath and many other stuff.

Now philosophically speaking I can't freaking imagine, how it is possible to not exist and that also scares the crap out of me. Just the idea of not being there... I don't know I might be egocentric or something :unsure:
Mainly the not existing thing confuses me, cause it's really hard to imagine.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
9th June 2015, 17:36
The fact that you don't need to worry about the ins and outs of not existing is satisfying enough. You'll figure it out eventually

Rosa Partizan
9th June 2015, 17:58
sounds maybe ridiculous for a radfem, but apart from all the health stuff I'm afraid of losing beauty. Conforming to beauty standards is something I haven't been experiencing for that super long and I don't wanna go back to those times when I was bullied for not conforming, for looking weird, all those times that guys I found attractive overlooked me. This societal invisibility that older women experience is something that I'm definitely afraid of.

John Nada
16th June 2015, 19:35
I start regretting my choices in the past. Think about this decision or that, took this job, stayed friends with someone, didn't break up or asked this girl/woman out, studied this, ect. How shit can't change, and didn't take the chances I should've or the ones I did. Get pissed when I see someone my age or younger doing something, like getting good jobs or making revolutions and shit, and I'm fucking close to the lowest level of the proletariat. Then wonder how my life would be now.

Yet at the same time I give a fuck less and less about everything, even dying. That shit's happened, no changing it. Conforming and succeeding don't matter to me, it's all bullshit. None of this shit matters. Time seemingly speeds up, where years go by quick, when as a child five minutes seemed like forever. Fuck I more want to see how technology changes over a lifetime than actually give a fuck about looking/feeling old. Otherwise I don't give a fuck.

I'm more scared of dying alone, unloved and unknown to anyone than aging(still look young, don't care that I'll look old someday), pain or actual death. I don't think there's an afterlife, so no heaven or reincarnation. Good part is no hell or repeatedly reborn in a more miserable life as punishment. An afterlife is worse imo because then that means most who've died are being sadistically tortured. Not even me in hell, but most everyone else subjected to hell is the worst.

It's just the thought of the last moment before entering eternity of nothing, with no one who even half cares around. Going out with only loneliness and regret. Strange because I obviously won't give a fuck afterwards. Just that last few seconds.

But death happens to all some earlier or later. I'll have a lot of company in that nonexistence everyone will be. To paraphrase Mark Twain, I don't care about billions of years of nothing, I was nothing billions of years before birth, and it didn't bother me.

Comrade Njordr
16th June 2015, 20:11
I'm not afraid of death, I'm afraid of not having done anything useful within my lifetime. I want to dedicate myself to the cause, I want to make some sort of a difference!

If one accumulates masses of materialistic goods in order to make their life seem better, I pity them. My life has little value compared to the vast amount of others on this planet, rather than wasting my life away selfishly, I will do my best to make a change.

The Feral Underclass
17th June 2015, 08:05
To be honest, I am more afraid of my mother dying than of me dying, because when I die, I'll be dead, so it won't really affect me, but when my mother dies, that shit is gonna be dark.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
17th June 2015, 11:26
How do you guys feel about it? Do you fear it at this point in your life, or look forward to being older?
It kind of sucks, to be honest. For me, I'm having more health issues as I age.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
17th June 2015, 11:33
To be honest, I am more afraid of my mother dying than of me dying, because when I die, I'll be dead, so it won't really affect me, but when my mother dies, that shit is gonna be dark.
I know what you mean. Most of my grandparents are dead. My mother has a progressive neurological disorder that will likely kill her within the next 5-6 years. I think that's the hardest part of getting older, knowing you'll see your older loved ones die.