Tumblr Liberals

[uncontent_soul]

Don't you think that all these tumblr liberals (I'm on tumblr) that clan to be lefties are sort of just dying for attention or something. People got offended thT I thought that the "free the nipple movement" was a bad idea. Sexism is a horrible thing but not shaving your armpits and loading your short wot do anything to help that. I don't understand how I'm sexist by feeling that. I'm entitled to my own opinion...

[PhoenixAsh]

It is non conforming to beauty standards that are enforced.

[RedWorker]

Don't you think that all these tumblr liberals (I'm on tumblr) that clan to be lefties are sort of just dying for attention or something.

Why are right-wingers never portrayed as 'dying for attention'? This is a common attack against left-wing people - that they are just "looking for attention", "naively believing they can make the world better", "believe that they are good people" etc. Whereas right-wing people are just destructive so no such attacks are leveraged against them.


Sexism is a horrible thing but not shaving your armpits and loading your short wot do anything to help that. I don't understand how I'm sexist by feeling that. I'm entitled to my own opinion...

Merely having this opinion is not sexist. But if you got accused of sexism, then we would need to know more information and the context to judge these accusations.

[oneday]

Don't you think that all these tumblr liberals (I'm on tumblr) that clan to be lefties are sort of just dying for attention or something. People got offended thT I thought that the "free the nipple movement" was a bad idea. Sexism is a horrible thing but not shaving your armpits and loading your short wot do anything to help that. I don't understand how I'm sexist by feeling that. I'm entitled to my own opinion...

The fact that women have to cover their breasts/nipples because they are viewed as too sexualized to expose but men are free to show them is sexist. Opposing this movement in principle (as opposed to just having the opinion that it won't be effective) seems somewhat sexist to me.

[#FF0000]

Don't you think that all these tumblr liberals (I'm on tumblr) that clan to be lefties are sort of just dying for attention or something.

I'd say it's unfair to try and analyze a bunch of strangers on the internet, but if I had to I'd say they're not any different from anyone else who is vocal and outspoken about their ideas and beliefs.


People got offended thT I thought that the "free the nipple movement" was a bad idea. Sexism is a horrible thing but not shaving your armpits and loading your short wot do anything to help that. I don't understand how I'm sexist by feeling that. I'm entitled to my own opinion...

Well, a right to an opinion goes both ways. Plus, no one here can do anything but speculate since we didn't see this exchange.

[Lily Briscoe]

...not shaving your armpits and loading your short wot...

Doing what...?

People on the Internet not shaving their armpits... who cares?

[G4b3n]

I don't see how you are any less "attention seeking" as a tumblr commie. What makes you so special?

Also, what makes the "free the nipple movement" a bad idea exactly? Surely not because liberals like it and everything that liberals endorse we must completely despise.

[lutraphile]

I think there's a lot of potential there, if they can learn to shift away from being-indignant-about-everything-no-matter-how-ridiculous. There are a lot of left-wingers on Tumblr, but right now the sizable minority of crazy people on there kinda give all the social justice crowd there a bad name.

The bad: A lot of the "body positivity" stuff on Tumblr is more "it is mandatory to find me attractive and discriminatory not to," there are myriad useless arguments about who has more privilege, and many instances of just people refusing out of hand to ever listen to an argument against their belief. More than a few, though definitely not the majority, of the "feminists" on there are more female supremacists.

The good: Tumblr is anti-racist, anti-sexist, and quite left wing. Socialism is far from a dirty word there, and there are some active political blogs there (Marxist-Leninists actually have quite a big representation in blogs devoted to the ideology, though there are probably more left-libertarians and Trotskyists on the site). Even in America-based blogs, there is near universal despise of the right wing, even if the most radical views they are familiar with are those of Warren or Sanders.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Why are right-wingers never portrayed as 'dying for attention'?

They are, though. I've heard the charge levied several times against "men's 'rights' 'activists'", for example, and I think it's true. The same goes for the "dark enlightenment" people, kids here who dress up like members of long-gone collaborationist governments, and so on. All of them seem to be dying for attention. I think the same goes for self-defined "leftists" (really liberals) who get offended when people tell them they're not black because they dress in blackface, that they're not foxes, that people don't find them attractive, when people don't draw their favourite character the way they "should have", when people like homosexual pairs in fiction, when people don't like homosexual pairs in fiction, when...

I also don't think these people are just one epiphany away from communism. In fact I don't think a trip to Damascus would help them, either. They don't seem to live in the real world, and in fact I would bet my right hand that most of them are wealthy student types (even if some of them - this is not something I've made up, mind - self-identify as having low income) who air their neuroses on the Internet, but in ten years' time they will all be dutiful Democrat/Labour/whatever voters, "community leaders" and "radical" academics.

And on the next episode of "Old Man Xhar-Xhar Shakes His Cane At Things", people who like Žižek. Also, "communism for the 21st century". Stay tuned!

[uncontent_soul]

Sorry lots of typos there but all I'm saying is that I was called out for bigotry because I said I would be attracted to certain things. Wens breasts have been sexualized for so long we can't change it. It's just not gonna work, some weirdo out there will say somethig offensive no matter what. It is never a victims fault, don't think I'm saying that.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

breasts have been sexualized for so long we can't change it.
The idea that we can't change long-held concepts shouldn't be held by revolutionaries.

[oneday]

Sorry lots of typos there but all I'm saying is that I was called out for bigotry because I said I would be attracted to certain things. Wens breasts have been sexualized for so long we can't change it. It's just not gonna work, some weirdo out there will say somethig offensive no matter what. It is never a victims fault, don't think I'm saying that.

Would you also say the same about the burka with full veil? That women in those cultures should always wear it since it's been that way for so long? The face is considered very tempting. Your argument is basically the same.

[index]

These bourgeois tumblr movements keep getting worse and worse.

[#FF0000]

I think everyone itt is taking tumblr a little too seriously.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

"Not shaving your armpits"

....You've never seen a non-American woman before, have you?

[PhoenixAsh]

Am I the only one who can legit say they only ever heard of tumblr but never actually been near it? Is it like Tinder? I did Tinder for a while because it was supposedly a good way to meet interesting people. Unfortunately my Tinder doesn't have actual people only spam bots. Then a friend suggested that if I wanted to meet interesting people I should install Grindr. This was....not a good idea. Although I can't deny it being interesting.

[soup]

Am I the only one who can legit say they only ever heard of tumblr but never actually been near it? Is it like Tinder? I did Tinder for a while because it was supposedly a good way to meet interesting people. Unfortunately my Tinder doesn't have actual people only spam bots. Then a friend suggested that if I wanted to meet interesting people I should install Grindr. This was....not a good idea. Although I can't deny it being interesting.Tumblr is just a really easy to use blogging platform. It's become a hotspot for identity politics and social justice activism. There's good stuff on there, but also a load of crap. For example, people "self-identifying" as animals, races/nationalities they have no connection to, as being "low-income" even when they are well off, etc.

[Ele'ill]

i think there are some interesting tumblr feeds/pages but its usually pretty bad/uninteresting

[Comrade Jacob]

I think everyone, male and female should shave their armpits. But that's just my preference, they can do what they want.

[PhoenixAsh]

I just visited Tumblr and lost my Tumblr virginity to happy jumping goats on a trampoline, a chocolate cup filled with (what I hope was) whipped cream....and some dubious pictures how puberty worked well for Hermione Granger next to some gif about lightning...and a woman with frighteningly large pink hair.

I am forever scarred.

[BIXX]

I think everyone, male and female should shave their armpits. But that's just my preference, they can do what they want.

Honestly I think all bodily hair should be removed, this would be compulsory by law and all who did not follow said law will go straight to the gulag.

[#FF0000]

tumblr keeps me supplied with hella vintage sci-fi art so I'm cool with it.

[Quail]

Sorry lots of typos there but all I'm saying is that I was called out for bigotry because I said I would be attracted to certain things. Wens breasts have been sexualized for so long we can't change it. It's just not gonna work, some weirdo out there will say somethig offensive no matter what. It is never a victims fault, don't think I'm saying that.

1. If you were really attracted to someone, went on a few dates with them, and then when it came to having sex, found out that :ohmy: they didn't shave anything, would you actually recoil in horror? Because like, nobody I've slept with has ever given a fuck about my body hair, and I certainly wouldn't object to someone's grooming choices if it got to the point we were naked together. Grow up.

2. Societal attitudes can change. They change all the damn time. It's okay for you to resign yourself to the idea that women's nipples will always be sexualised, so women should always cover up, because it doesn't affect you. But I'll be damned if small-minded idiots are going to deny me the pleasure of feeling the warm sun on my chest.

[mushroompizza]

I have never been on Tumblr so I will not make assumptions about it like its full of "Feminist Liberal Nutjobs that hate white people and Freedom, USA #1".

But my opinion on those types of people "ahem Russel Brand" is that they want to be edgy and shit but dont know shit about radical politics, theyre the people that think Communism is a System of ridiculous equality and dictatorship. They want to be radical/edgy but are too dumb and scared to actually be a radical.

[Jacky Hearts]

I'm against trying to desexualise female breasts/nipples. My counter-proposal is to sexualise male nipples just as much.

In fact, scratch that, sexualise EVERYTHING

[mushroompizza]

Why must everything be sexual? Cant we just be honest with our sexuality, don't let tradition smother our sexual desires! Join the Nudism group to help liberate the body!

[Sewer Socialist]

I'm against trying to desexualise female breasts/nipples. My counter-proposal is to sexualise male nipples just as much.

In fact, scratch that, sexualise EVERYTHING

That certainly seems to be the way things are moving.

Why is this good? Is it liberating to be sexualized? Is sexualization okay if it's equal-opportunity?

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Why are right-wingers never portrayed as 'dying for attention'? This is a common attack against left-wing people - that they are just "looking for attention", "naively believing they can make the world better", "believe that they are good people" etc. Whereas right-wing people are just destructive so no such attacks are leveraged against them.



Merely having this opinion is not sexist. But if you got accused of sexism, then we would need to know more information and the context to judge these accusations.

The looking for attention comments are meant to imply that liberals are a tiny and insignificant minority which manipulates the media to give the opposite impression. Conservative rhetoric assumes that they themselves are always in the overwhelming majority.

[Jacky Hearts]

That certainly seems to be the way things are moving.

Why is this good? Is it liberating to be sexualized? Is sexualization okay if it's equal-opportunity?

Well I was actually trying to make a joke in a desperate attempt to assert myself as a comical personality to a large group which is intimidatingly well versed in theory.

But to be fair, yeah, why not? What's wrong with embracing our sexuality as long as it's in a non-oppressive way, where society takes the sexualisation of one half of the species to its extreme while deeming the sexualisation of the other to be a broad cultural taboo outside of close relations. In other words, everyone should sexualise whatever the hell they want (within humane reason).

[Sewer Socialist]

Jacky Hearts: Yeah, this board can be intimidating. I was intimidated, too at first. I'm sort of wading in slowly, like a kid does into a cold lake. I think I'm just above crotch-high into this lake that is RevLeft so far.

I didn't say it's wrong exactly, but there are many negative aspects of sexualization, and it's sort of an effect of broader cultural forces. I'm not sure what I think, personally. I don't think I could say I am pro- or anti- sexualization, but that I am critical. Or, maybe, that I would like to develop my criticism of it. But, you are saying, yes, you see sexualization as a positive force if it is equal oppotunity?

Placenta Cream: How can the two be separated? Can they?

I have trouble imagining how everything can be positively sexualized - all traits of a person, no matter what, and in equal amounts; no degradation of traits which are deemed undesirable. To take it further, if everything were equally sexual, would this even be different than if nothing were?

The reduction of people to sex objects, to parts, certainly has may negative effects: the legitimization of violence, acceptance of exploitation, poor mental health.

Does this not also exalt the sexual and degrade the non-sexual; in behaviour and in personal capabilities, as well as imposing sexuality upon a person?

[Jacky Hearts]

Jacky Hearts: Yeah, this board can be intimidating. I was intimidated, too at first. I'm sort of wading in slowly, like a kid does into a cold lake. I think I'm just above crotch-high into this lake that is RevLeft so far.

I didn't say it's wrong exactly, but there are many negative aspects of sexualization, and it's sort of an effect of broader cultural forces. I'm not sure what I think, personally. I don't think I could say I am pro- or anti- sexualization, but that I am critical. Or, maybe, that I would like to develop my criticism of it. But, you are saying, yes, you see sexualization as a positive force if it is equal oppotunity?

Placenta Cream: How can the two be separated? Can they?

I have trouble imagining how everything can be positively sexualized - all traits of a person, no matter what, and in equal amounts; no degradation of traits which are deemed undesirable. To take it further, if everything were equally sexual, would this even be different than if nothing were?

The reduction of people to sex objects, to parts, certainly has may negative effects: the legitimization of violence, acceptance of exploitation, poor mental health.

Does this not also exalt the sexual and degrade the non-sexual; in behaviour and in personal capabilities, as well as imposing sexuality upon a person?

I'm not saying that everyone should sexualise absolutely everything. My point was more that society should not enforce onto a person any particular culture of sexuality. So it's more like saying that anyone can sexualise whatever the hell they want without it being frowned upon (again, within humane limitations).

If that doesn't make sense think about it this way: I'm not suggesting a cultural mass sexualisation of all aspects of all people. I'm suggesting that all people should make the choice themselves of what they personally sexualise, without any social prejudices about such a choice. Sexuality is, after all, something deeply personal and so the choice should be a personal one.

[Sewer Socialist]

Well, that's a little different. I can see what you're describing.

But I feel like, even with the multiplicity of sexualities, they tend to group together - we can easily identify the sexual trends of a culture. Sexuality does not exist in a vacuum, and it tends to support a dominant narrative (or narratives) in a society of domination.

And really, what you are arguing for, is increased freedom to sexualize, and freedom for those who sexualize; but no freedom from sexualization, no freedom for those who are sexualized. In today's world, this divide is very real.

And, I think my earlier statement that this exalts the sexual and degrades the non-sexual still applies.

[Troika]

Everyone on tumblr is like 12 so there's your answer.

Also what's wrong with women not shaving? They can do whatever they want with their bodies. Further, given how shit-scared everyone in the US appears to be of women's bodies (especially when they are not maintained to exacting specifications) it actually is pretty radical.

[soup]

tumblr keeps me supplied with hella vintage sci-fi art so I'm cool with it.

Tumblr has it's uses.

[Wali]

I hate SJW's. They are everything I oppose, they make mountains out of molehills. I dislike your average "liberal" too. Call me strange, I guess.

[Luís Henrique]

In fact, scratch that, sexualise EVERYTHING

I am firmly against the sexualisation of elbows.

Seriously though, I doubt there is any difference between sexualising everything and de-sexualising everything. The sexualisation is in the difference; if there is no difference, there is no sexualisation.

Anyway, we have to decide whether we are discussing shaved armpits or the politicisation of armpit shaving. The former is a useless discussion, as it will revolve in personal tastes; the latter is dangerous terrain, as it involves normatisation of personal tastes.

Luís Henrique

[Redistribute the Rep]

Seriously though, I doubt there is any difference between sexualising everything and de-sexualising everything. The sexualisation is in the difference; if there is no difference, there is no sexualisation.

The difference is sexualising everything would make us want to fuck everything with no discrimination, like walls. Which would probably be mathematically impossible given how many things there are to consistently present them all in such a way in media and the like. if everything were desexualized we wouldn't be turned on by walls, or breasts for that matter. I don't think sexualization is defined by its uniqueness, but just by whether something is portrayed in a sexual way

[mushroompizza]

Tumblr is not that bad its just assholes on /pol/ who go on there and say something like "I hate feminists kill urselfs wiggers!" and people reply negatively then they complain Tumblr is extremist, and have started this stereotype tumblr is full of legbeard feminists.

[Slippers]

I am the epitome of a tumblrite "sjw" and absolutely your worst nightmare if that is off-putting to you.

I am annoyed by ignorant liberalism on tumblr; but a lot of it is at least a better start than what I see from the general population (or... lord, a lot of what I see on this board). And I mostly hang about with my coven of villainous transgender communist friends.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

I hate SJW's. They are everything I oppose, they make mountains out of molehills. I dislike your average "liberal" too. Call me strange, I guess.
I don't know why fighting for social justice has become a slur. It's one thing to say "there is a predilection for some weak, liberal politics on tumblr" and another to say "those sjw's are all idiots" or whatever, I feel. It seems like the term 'sjw' is basically a reactionary epithet used to dismiss anyone who gives a shit about equality so I don't think that revolutionaries should adopt the term - seems comparable to a revolutionary adopting the term 'feminazi' to describe a feminist with shitty bourgeois feminist ideas. I was once a person with shitty politics and I was introduced to various revolutionary perspectives that developed my understanding, I'm sure that many of the people on tumblr with liberal views currently have the potential of becoming revolutionaries.

[Quail]

Tumblr is not that bad its just assholes on /pol/ who go on there and say something like "I hate feminists kill urselfs wiggers!" and people reply negatively then they complain Tumblr is extremist, and have started this stereotype tumblr is full of legbeard feminists.

What does this mean? I tried asking google but I still don't know.

[Rosa Partizan]

hairy, ugly feminists that no guy wants to fuck. so basically all feminists.

[PhoenixAsh]

If I have to venture a guess it is a play on words of the tetm "neckbeards" for men and means women who don't shave their legs.

The term neckbeards is used to designate socially inept and poorly groomed and unattractive men....predominantly used against people who are interested in computers or swj hippies.

So...basically what Rosa says.

[Quail]

To be fair, I have wondering what the hell a neckbeard is for some time so thanks for clearing that up.

[Zoop]

The term neckbeards is used to designate socially inept and poorly groomed and unattractive men....predominantly used against people who are interested in computers or swj hippies.

If that's all it means, why is it used as an insult?

[Sewer Socialist]

It's sorta funny, since anyone who calls people "legbeard" probably has hairier legs than the person being described as such.

[Quail]

It's sorta funny, since anyone who calls people "legbeard" probably has hairier legs than the person being described as such.

Yeah, but women aren't meant to have hair. It's just so unattractive when women look like they've been through puberty. :rolleyes:

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Hmm Ive never heard the phrase legbeard but I have to admit that its a creative play on that phrase. Neckbeard is a reference to a couple years ago when beards were first coming back into fashion and you would see, primarily only on the internet, pictures of these weirdos who didn't do any kind of grooming and as a result their beard would literally grow from their neck rather than their faces. It just looks kind of gross and for some reason it was a specific culture of nerds who did it. I think they've moved on to fedoras at this point though.

I like body hair personally, it holds a persons scent better than bare skin.

[Zoop]

Hmm Ive never heard the phrase legbeard but I have to admit that its a creative play on that phrase. Neckbeard is a reference to a couple years ago when beards were first coming back into fashion and you would see, primarily only on the internet, pictures of these weirdos who didn't do any kind of grooming and as a result their beard would literally grow from their neck rather than their faces. It just looks kind of gross and for some reason it was a specific culture of nerds who did it. I think they've moved on to fedoras at this point though.

I like body hair personally, it holds a persons scent better than bare skin.

So it was an insult used by bigots who disliked anyone who grew their facial hair differently than the accepted norm? Well done you.

Wonderful to know the bullying mind-set is still alive and well amongst the left.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Oh yeah #notallbeards lol who cares, fuck your neckbeard nerd.

[Zoop]

I rest my case.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Which case is that exactly?

[Hermes]

So it was an insult used by bigots who disliked anyone who grew their facial hair differently than the accepted norm? Well done you.

Wonderful to know the bullying mind-set is still alive and well amongst the left.

it really didn't have much to do with their facial hair, it was just a period where (it seemed) everyone who had it also tended to have incredibly shitty misogynistic views, as well as an obsession with the 'new atheists' and people like the amazing atheist, usually associated with various forums, etc

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

No it really did have to do with facial hair originally. It was just assumed that everyone who had those misogynistic views, were obsessed with richard dawkins and being a 'nice guy' of a certain age all looked like this: http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/thumb/9/94/Neckbeards.png/200px-Neckbeards.png notice the patchy "beard" going almost all the way to the bottom his neck here. (I feel bad posting this dudes picture on here for the sake of an example, but its the first image that comes up with a search for neckbeards so I can't be doing any more damage than has already been done.)

It has to be pointed out that having a beard which doesn't conform to normal male fashion standards is not same thing as women being insulted for upending a ridiculous tradition. Comparing the two like zoop is doing is a total fucking joke.

[Hermes]

No it really did have to do with facial hair originally. It was just assumed that everyone who had those misogynistic views, were obsessed with richard dawkins and being a 'nice guy' of a certain age all looked like this: http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/thumb/9/94/Neckbeards.png/200px-Neckbeards.png notice the patchy "beard" going almost all the way to the bottom his neck here. (I feel bad posting this dudes picture on here for the sake of an example, but its the first image that comes up with a search for neckbeards so I can't be doing any more damage than has already been done.)

It has to be pointed out that having a beard which doesn't conform to normal male fashion standards is not same thing as women being insulted for upending a ridiculous tradition. Comparing the two like zoop is doing is a total fucking joke.

no, definitely, the beard was associated with the views, I was just saying that to many the views were more ridiculed than the actual facial hair. unless you knew that's what I meant and still think I'm wrong (which I very possibly am), or I'm misunderstanding you.

and, yeah, I agree. the two have nothing in common (in my eyes, at least).

[human strike]

I think everyone itt is taking tumblr a little too seriously.

As, unfortunately, do most tumblr users.

[Culicarius]

Tumblr definitely has some glaring problems with the community. For example the whole call-out culture that exists and if you said one problematic thing 8 years ago you're the king of Shitmountain and can't ever be redeemed. I hate using Macklemore as an example, but apparently about 7 years ago he made one or two homophobic tweets on his twitter. Fast forward to present day and when Same Love came out posts were going around tumblr going "Look!! in 2008 Macklemore said this he isn't a true ally, fire the hate cannons!"

I don't like it when people seem more concerned with calling people out and patting themselves on the back, rather than actually getting shit done. That's an example of where tumblr has some problems with how (from what I've seen) a lot of people conduct themselves.

Now if your complaint is about annoying SJW taking away your video games or you feel bad because someone said you're racist, you're probably doing the whole revolutionary thing wrong.

[mushroompizza]

Tumblr is no worse than revleft, no one can get along here, at least tumblr is popular. :crying:

[Rafiq]

Neckbeards almost exclusively refer to libertarians and MRA's. There's no equivalence with "hairy women" because the latter seeks to scrutinize women for not conforming to gender standards.

[mushroompizza]

We shouldnt criticize Tumblr anyway, I mean theyre a little weird but its not where near as bad as /pol/

Just read this... http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/47383436/socialism-works-as-long-as-you-keep-the-niggers

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Neckbear lore check!


So it was an insult used by bigots who disliked anyone who grew their facial hair differently than the accepted norm? Well done you.

Wonderful to know the bullying mind-set is still alive and well amongst the left.

It's jaw-dropping to see the term "bigot" devalued to the extent that anyone who makes fun of self-important Internet lolbertarian Amazing Atheist (TM) MRE creeps for trying to be cool and failing miserably (contrast crusts who don't give a fuck and who no one makes fun of) is a bigot.

*tips fedora*

Also FFS many people people made fun of as "neckbeards" didn't even have a neckbeard. Case in point:

http://cache26.fansshare.com/photo/fedora/fedoradgentleman-neckbeard-1634033006.jpg

[motion denied]

Internet class struggle is heated!

Also, >having beards

[BIXX]

Well fuck now I gotta shave and I was getting to a serious leftist theoritician level. God damnit

[PhoenixAsh]

Really? The term is almost exclusively used against "nerds" and was specifically used to critI questions their appearance.... the mysogeny may be part of the culture but is not inherrent to the term or why it was used.

Here you go:

http://www.somethingawful.com/news/neckbeard-beginners-guide/

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

if you believe in 'ethics in gaming journalism' you probably have a considerable dorito-encrusted neckbeard if not on your actual body, then on some critical part of your soul.

[Zoop]

It's jaw-dropping to see the term "bigot" devalued to the extent that anyone who makes fun of self-important Internet lolbertarian Amazing Atheist (TM) MRE creeps for trying to be cool and failing miserably (contrast crusts who don't give a fuck and who no one makes fun of) is a bigot.
Nope, the term is used in order to mock someone's appearance, hence why it's called neckbeard. Yes, it may mean something else too, but it doesn't change the fact that it's grounded on an infantile mocking attitude towards other people's appearance. They're bigots. They remind me of the shits who tell trekkies, or any other group whose lifestyle and interests deviate from what is common, to "get a life", because they deviate from what they find acceptable, or people who snicker at how someone else looks or dresses.
I would gladly kneecap them.

[PhoenixAsh]

if you believe in 'ethics in gaming journalism' you probably have a considerable dorito-encrusted neckbeard if not on your actual body, then on some critical part of your soul.

You do realize that the term dates back to 2001...2003...right? And has nothing to do with Gamergate.

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

i'm well aware how long it dates back, unfortunately i'm not exactly new to the internet at large, having wasted a good portion of my childhood and teens on forums and message boards.

it might not directly be a GGer thing but surely the stereotype of the angry, arrogant, misogynistic nu-atheist gamer complete with beardy neck is the stock character of many internet reactionary movements. I've heard the term neckbeard widely applied to MRAs, propertarians of various stripes and of course, all different types of grognards in gaming. The neckbeard trope (at least i've alway found) represents a certain kind of self-important asshole whos taken it upon himself to safeguard gaming/magic:the gathering tournaments/the history of civilization and humanity itself from women/'normals/muslims. As far as I can see it's nowadays shorthand for 'gross and awful nerd who won't let anyone else have any fun'


they probably browse reddit too.


E:

and i just spent time writing this holy lord

[PhoenixAsh]

It is however not an anti mysogenist word. And that I what you imply. It is equally used by these people you describe against swj's...so the mysogenist is accidental and not inherent in the meaning of the word.

It is a mere variation on the "O yeah? Well....well...YOU ARE UGLY" type of argument.

[Troika]

Tumblr definitely has some glaring problems with the community. For example the whole call-out culture that exists and if you said one problematic thing 8 years ago you're the king of Shitmountain and can't ever be redeemed. I hate using Macklemore as an example, but apparently about 7 years ago he made one or two homophobic tweets on his twitter. Fast forward to present day and when Same Love came out posts were going around tumblr going "Look!! in 2008 Macklemore said this he isn't a true ally, fire the hate cannons!"

I don't like it when people seem more concerned with calling people out and patting themselves on the back, rather than actually getting shit done. That's an example of where tumblr has some problems with how (from what I've seen) a lot of people conduct themselves.

Now if your complaint is about annoying SJW taking away your video games or you feel bad because someone said you're racist, you're probably doing the whole revolutionary thing wrong.

Why, it's almost as if Tumblr is a bunch of petit bourgeois white children living in the suburbs!

I'm ok with allies, but when they start policing the language of the people with whom they claim to be allied it's like do you even know what a safe space is. Straight cis whites shouldn't be policing us.

And yeah, exactly, if you're into gamergate you're basically on the far right. In my mind SJW means some middle class shithead who whines about things that don't actually matter or who fights for social justice when they don't actually know anything about social justice (never having read a book on anything sociological). Gamergaters are SJWs. MRAs are SJWs. Shrill Tumblr otherkin are SJWs. People who fight for queer rights are not. Feminists and womanists are not. That's not to say you won't find idiots in every movement -you will- but those movements are not SJW in themselves.