What's on your mind XV

[PhoenixAsh]

Old thread exceeded 500 posts

This is a new one.

Old thread: http://www.revleft.com/vb/whats-your-mind-t192180/index25.html

Have at it.

[Cliff Paul]

politics are boring. the what's on your mind thread is where the real action is at.

[Sinister Intents]

Satan is boring, the Cult of Cthulhu iz where it's at

[Cliff Paul]

One time I watched Eurovision. There was music playing. It wasn't Drake. I'm not planning on watching Eurovision ever again.

[Sinister Intents]

We must achieve the revolutionary dictatorship of the heavy music scene and abolish private ownership of labels and media for profit. Free music for the people

Bored as shit

[Cliff Paul]

Bored as shit

word. the northeast sucks (I guess you are technically mid-atlantic but whatever). fucking allergies too. plants are stupid.

[Sinister Intents]

I'm in NY and PA, so yah pretty boring

I freaking hate the sounds of lawnmowers

[Rosa Partizan]

there hasn't been a fucking single post in "women's struggle" for over a month??

even by revleft's edgy teenage boys standards, this is disappointing.

[Bala Perdida]

"I used to chew that Copenhagen shit too, I'll tell you it fucks you up worse than cigarettes! "

I don't chew tobacco sir my speech is just terrible.

[cyu]

Saw a couple of FB posts about sexual assault - lots of comments from friends of friends - out of all of them, there were actually some that bordered on trying to play "devil's advocate" - wouldn't you know it, those comments only came from men. Made me want to comment with a facepalm pointing it out, but that seemed too flippant among all the other much more serious comments.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

there hasn't been a fucking single post in "women's struggle" for over a month??

even by revleft's edgy teenage boys standards, this is disappointing.

Do you really care what dudes on the internet think about womens struggle?

[motion denied]

You were everything, everything
that i wanted
we were meant to be supposed to be
but we lost it

[Redistribute the Rep]

You were everything, everything
that i wanted
we were meant to be supposed to be
but we lost it

And now we got bad blood

[cyu]

Do you really care what dudes on the internet think about womens struggle? If not, why bother discussing politics on the internet?

Different topic: It seems some teachers have low self-esteem and teaching for them becomes their outlet for showing off. They seem to take pleasure in making a big show of how much they know, and how dumb their students are compared to them. They make their students feel like "the dumbest kid in the world" and start hating school.

[BIXX]

Dude can you imagine what it'd be like to be the dumbest kid in the world?

[Os Cangaceiros]

It would probably be pretty fun...you could do a bunch of stupid shit and then fall back on "hey bro, I'm the dumbest kid in the world, cut me some slack!"

[Bala Perdida]

One of my teachers told me "you're not that smart" when I was in elementary school. It would've been pretty damn useful to know that that could get her in trouble. She was mean too, shit.

[PhoenixAsh]

"Dumber" people are often happier and live more satisfying lives than "smarter" people....suicide rates are lower as well... So there is that

[PhoenixAsh]

I used to say to the psychologists and therapists:


look...too smart to believe in platitudes and too dumb to actually implement them In my life.

[Sinister Intents]

I drink a lot of anxietea

[Sinister Intents]

Class warfare

[Comrade Jacob]

My best friend/ex gf tried to off herself again but she's fine now and we've been talking again.

[The Intransigent Faction]

High school and elementary school teachers have both been on strike for several weeks here. Today, the Liberal provincial government declared its intention to pass back-to-work legislation. The NDP, doubtless seeking to further win over what was once a solid Liberal support base, has declared its opposition to such legislation, but for now at least they can't do much because the Liberals have a majority government.

According to recent polls, a narrow majority of Ontarians support back-to-work legislation. Sure, this general claim doesn't tell us much about how that opinion varies along class lines. Still, it's frustrating to think about, especially because the main issue is not money but rather working conditions. Specifically, the government wants to remove caps on class sizes. That would, for obvious reasons, make teachers' jobs rather difficult.

[Sinister Intents]

I'm lazy and anti social right now

[Bala Perdida]

I have really got to get more stable second jobs. I've been on the clock for more than 90 minutes already and I still haven't gotten a single order. And I get paid by the order.

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

i had another one of those weird 'dead, empty and unfeeling inside' turns combined with a week of drinking too much because a friend was visiting from out of town. not really a common expression of whats going on inside my head for me and to be honest i dislike it a lot more than the dramatic misery i usually get. I feel better now so whatever, i'm going to put it down to different and possibly effective meds.

[The Intransigent Faction]

What's almost as annoying as interruptions is the anticipation of being interrupted. :glare:

Also, this:


...it seemed to K. then as if all contact with him had been severed and he was now freer than ever before, no question about it, and might wait in this otherwise forbidden place for as long as he liked and had fought for and won this freedom as few others could have done and none might touch or banish him, barely even address him, but --- this conviction was at least equally strong --- as if at the same time there was nothing more futile, nothing more desperate than this freedom, this waiting, this invulnerability.

I just love his writing.

[consuming negativity]

i just ate a sub with 870 calories in it and i'm annoyed that a revleft user has forever been associated with this number, in my mind, without my permission

[Cliff Paul]

Class warfare

kept out of the news. replaced by corporations, political views

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

This lady on the bus was being mean as shit to her kid this morning, that was a nice morning pickmeup. I started my full class load this week, which is cool cause I ran out of shit to do at home and I was getting bored

[Sinister Intents]

Tired as fuck

[BIXX]

Holy shit TT is working again yay!

[Sewer Socialist]

i just ate a sub with 870 calories in it and i'm annoyed that a revleft user has forever been associated with this number, in my mind, without my permission

My mind does the same thing, but with building addresses. I haven't been in Chicago in years, but if I hear the number "135", for example, I immediately think of 135 S. LaSalle, the bane of bike messengers; 135 might as well be 666 in the book of Spandor, the deity of bikes.

[Rosa Partizan]

Will have a lecture at the ladyfest in 5 days, haven't even started preparing it, instead I'm watching cartoon introductions on youtube and singing along. typical case of ohgodwhy.

[Sinister Intents]

Rosa, please don't hate me

[Rosa Partizan]

why should I hate you :confused:

[Sinister Intents]

why should I hate you :confused:

I just feel like you do

[Lily Briscoe]

God, when I skip out on stimulants even just for a day, I get INSANE cravings for spicy things. I notice this every time. Really, really weird.

[Sinister Intents]

God, when I skip out on stimulants even just for a day, I get INSANE cravings for spicy things. I notice this every time. Really, really weird.

Do you like cayenne pepper?

[Sinister Intents]

Total fucking cake

[Hermes]

Time for pretty much a carbon copy of every single post I've ever made in this thread.

I feel like a failure. I'm left wasting my time on things that are completely fucking useless, and which I don't even really feel the energy for any more. I play video games, I read, but I only do these to pass the time. Getting a job seems impossible, if I had any interest whatsoever in college/the courses I'm pursuing, it's long gone, and even the thought of maintaining conversations on here is exhausting. It just seems like I'm fucked, am gradually getting more fucked, and there's absolutely nothing I can do to stop it.

In a more trivial strain, what are your opinions on employment and long hair? I like my hair where it is now, but if cutting it would significantly improve my chances, it would probably be idiotic to keep it this way.

[Sinister Intents]

I hope the cut I got doesn't get infected

[cyu]

I feel like a failure. I'm left wasting my time on things that are completely fucking useless Capitalist brainwashing - and we must overcome it. Everyone growing up under capitalism is subjected to this kind of brainwashing. If you're not good at servicing the rich, then you are a useless failure. On the other hand, if you're great at licking capitalist butt, then they give you a lot of money, and you are considered a success.

But overcoming the brainwashing isn't enough, because capitalists also control the system. It isn't enough that you don't believe you are a failure - as long as capitalists claim you have failed, you cannot survive in the society they control. They will make you starve until you start servicing them.

[consuming negativity]

i hate being reminded that we're fucking slaves to fucking objects god damn it i'm suffocating

[BIXX]

Today I watched as my manager had several panic attacks.

I could have helped his workload but thought, "yeah, fuck that, I got a Monster to drink".

[The Intransigent Faction]

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/police-shoot-bear-in-newmarket-ont/ar-BBku5J0?ocid=ASUDHP

Oh, Canada.


Time for pretty much a carbon copy of every single post I've ever made in this thread.

I feel like a failure. I'm left wasting my time on things that are completely fucking useless, and which I don't even really feel the energy for any more. I play video games, I read, but I only do these to pass the time. Getting a job seems impossible, if I had any interest whatsoever in college/the courses I'm pursuing, it's long gone, and even the thought of maintaining conversations on here is exhausting. It just seems like I'm fucked, am gradually getting more fucked, and there's absolutely nothing I can do to stop it.

In a more trivial strain, what are your opinions on employment and long hair? I like my hair where it is now, but if cutting it would significantly improve my chances, it would probably be idiotic to keep it this way.

Regarding your question, obviously that depends on the type of job and exact length of your hair. As for the rest, you pretty much described the current state of my own life to the letter.

[Hermes]

Regarding your question, obviously that depends on the type of job and exact length of your hair. As for the rest, you pretty much described the current state of my own life to the letter.

Right now, I'm probably looking at either food service or janitorial work at a library. It's a little past my shoulders, when it's down.

[Sinister Intents]

Period sex isn't bad

[The Intransigent Faction]

I got messages from a Facebook group conversation with some old debate team friends and acquaintances. I may or may not end up contributing to a blog of some sort that they're organizing to debate current issues. I'm in that state of mind where I'm conflicted but it seems like it might possibly be a potentially good idea depending on who exactly is most involved and how regular it's meant to be, so whatever.


Right now, I'm probably looking at either food service or janitorial work at a library. It's a little past my shoulders, when it's down.

I wouldn't think that that would be a problem.

[cyu]

When the field slaves have started to ignore their owners, and produce for themselves, the incomes of the slave owners start falling. As a result, the owners have less money available to use on the house slaves, so what do the house slaves get?

Austerity.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

I wrote an essay that is sort of personal for my composition class without realizing that it would be peer-reviewed. I'm not really looking forward to having some 19 year old white kid read this :-/

[Cliff Paul]

had an appointment with my psychiatrist today at 11:15. he finally takes me in at 12 oclock. he goes "so are your meds okay" and I respond "yeh I think so" and he hands me a script for some refills and a 120 dollar bill. I was in there for 4 whole minutes.

[Quail]

had an appointment with my psychiatrist today at 11:15. he finally takes me in at 12 oclock. he goes "so are your meds okay" and I respond "yeh I think so" and he hands me a script for some refills and a 120 dollar bill. I was in there for 4 whole minutes.

My psych was a bit like that - she'd weigh me, ask about meds and send me on my way - but thankfully seeing her was free because NHS.

[Rosa Partizan]

ladyfest starts tomorrow and I feel SO not ready and absolutely don't know what to expect and my presentation's not finished AT ALL and I wanna lay down on the floor and scream. I organized some kind of café for refugee women and a workshop held by refugee romen, also for refugee women, and those women presenting the workshop come from Berlin and I really hope that my friend and I achieve to draw some interest for this stuff in the housings for asylum seekers. At least many women there know me because I speak serbocroatian, otherwise I absolutely wouldn't have dared to organize this stuff. I'm really looking forward to the LF, but I'm more looking forward to its end :lol:

[Quail]

ladyfest starts tomorrow and I feel SO not ready and absolutely don't know what to expect and my presentation's not finished AT ALL and I wanna lay down on the floor and scream. I organized some kind of café for refugee women and a workshop held by refugee romen, also for refugee women, and those women presenting the workshop come from Berlin and I really hope that my friend and I achieve to draw some interest for this stuff in the housings for asylum seekers. At least many women there know me because I speak serbocroatian, otherwise I absolutely wouldn't have dared to organize this stuff. I'm really looking forward to the LF, but I'm more looking forward to its end :lol:

It will go fine! I've given talks at these types of events and you'll probably not feel prepared until it's all over, and you'll wonder why you were freaking out so much :)

[Ro Laren]

My feet are always sore. I've probably got plantar fasciitis. The pain is the worst after I sit for a while or when I get out of bed, and I literally end up hobbling until the pain is bearable.

I can't stop thinking that this is the beginning of my body's disintegration. Varicose veins are next. I've already got my first spider veins.

[The Intransigent Faction]

Apparently a friend of mine is hosting a party, which is kinda unusual for her. I do enjoy hanging out with her and sometimes a mutual friend (who won't be there), but there will probably be a bunch of people I don't know. I'd honestly rather spend a Saturday evening reading, or biking nowhere in particular, than trying to mingle with a bunch of strangers and being interrogated. I think a part of me feels bad about that, though.

[Redistribute the Rep]

I always get really uncomfortable when I search RevLeft on youtube

[motion denied]

^there's some dude doing some kind of communist cosplay hahaha

tell me that is not how you people are

[Sinister Intents]

Today it is absolutely important I isolate myself from the rest of the world because I'm intensely angry and I feel like I'm going to attack anything that moves. I've already bloodied and bruised my knuckles and I'm noticeably shaky. I hate dysphoria.

[Sewer Socialist]

Doing martial arts, riding bikes, or much of anything at all is tough with the job I have now. I need to find a better job; my current one is taking all the life out of me. It seems like as soon as I recover from one injury, I have another. Now I have tendonitis in my forearm / wrist.

Dedicating my life in such a way to a shitty manufacturing job that treats me like shit really makes me feel like shit.

[Comrade Jacob]

I got an infraction for saying "I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, debate me and get rekt" in a learning thread. Makes sense but it was just a little joke. I get it wasn't the thread for it but I was dying to say that.

[The Intransigent Faction]

7Glq9YiUMNg

[L.A.P.]

Does anyone else feel like suburban America is the absolute worst place in the world?

[cyu]

In some places, you know who your real enemy is. In other places, you don't, and just when you think you've won, you actually lost.

[Rosa Partizan]

my presentation at the ladyfest was awesome, strangers approaching me to tell me how great it was and that they learned a lot of new stuff. so proud and so exhausted at the same time, the lf finishes this sunday, so still a lot of stuff to do, but looking forward to it :)

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Whenever I hear you can live at home by husker du it always sounds like they are singing "you been livin in a coal mine, you been livin in a coal mine"

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

my presentation at the ladyfest was awesome, strangers approaching me to tell me how great it was and that they learned a lot of new stuff. so proud and so exhausted at the same time, the lf finishes this sunday, so still a lot of stuff to do, but looking forward to it :)

cool, what was your presentation about?

[Sinister Intents]

I discover worse stuff about this forum every year

[Quail]

I'm trying to write an email to a French professor about the possibility of doing a phd, but I don't know what to write. It would be an overwhelming enough task trying to write the damn thing in English.

[Quail]

I'm trying to write an email to a French professor about the possibility of doing a phd, but I don't know what to write. It would be an overwhelming enough task trying to write the damn thing in English.

So far I have:

Hello Professor,
I hope you are well and the weather is as good in Tours as it is in Sheffield. I finished my MSc in mathematics last year and am considering further study. I'm particularly interested in algebraic combinatorics, and I wondered if you would have a project suitable for a phd student?
My thesis was on the regularity of monomial ideals, which correspond to combinatorial objects. I have more of a background in commutative algebra than group theory, but I would be interested in learning more about this aspect of the subject.
Your sincerely, etc

Is there anything else I should say? Anything I should leave out? I have no idea.

[cyu]

Something I read recently about emails to busy people, is to get to the point quickly. Rank all your sentences in order of importance, and put the important ones first, the least important ones last. If there is small talk, socializing, friendly stuff, still do it, but do it at the end - that way you still appear friendly, plus it ends on something positive.

[Quail]

Something I read recently about emails to busy people, is to get to the point quickly. Rank all your sentences in order of importance, and put the important ones first, the least important ones last. If there is small talk, socializing, friendly stuff, still do it, but do it at the end - that way you still appear friendly, plus it ends on something positive.

Yeah. I read somewhere that by french email conventions or whatever people prefer you to start with some kind of pleasantary before you get to the point, or you might come across as rude. I tried to say the important stuff in the first paragraph.


In other news, I was a right idiot yesterday and stayed out in the sun all day long and drank some cider and woke up today ridiculously dehyrated and not feeling too great. I also have tank top sun burn lines :thumbup1:

[Sinister Intents]

Lol that's also business advice! That's stuff I learned at JBC :)

[consuming negativity]

I got an infraction for saying "I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, debate me and get rekt" in a learning thread. Makes sense but it was just a little joke. I get it wasn't the thread for it but I was dying to say that.

it doesn't really sound like a joke at all. it sounds like a rude statement or a shitpost. that's prolly how the mod saw it.


So far I have:

Hello Professor,
I hope you are well and the weather is as good in Tours as it is in Sheffield. I finished my MSc in mathematics last year and am considering further study. I'm particularly interested in algebraic combinatorics, and I wondered if you would have a project suitable for a phd student?
My thesis was on the regularity of monomial ideals, which correspond to combinatorial objects. I have more of a background in commutative algebra than group theory, but I would be interested in learning more about this aspect of the subject.
Your sincerely, etc

Is there anything else I should say? Anything I should leave out? I have no idea.

i was told that it's a good idea to connect your work/interest to something the professor has already published or is currently working on. but i'm not really sure how math phds work (let alone what half of the words in this post even mean) or if that's even applicable here.

generally speaking, showing interest in them will make them take you seriously. show you did your homework and that you give a shit about them or their institution personally - that, rather than sending out 50 copies of that email, you made a specific one to them. i really liked cyu's advice, but you did that in a polite way at the beginning and i wouldn't change that opener. maybe you could expand on it more at the end, once you've told them what you want?

[Redistribute the Rep]

Rafiq always spells 'says' and 'Renaissance' wrong, Ive noticed

[Sinister Intents]

Michael! Cried Barbara as she cut a couple more lines and twisted a doob. Do we have Funions! Then Michael left to the store, attempted to act sober, and then bought Doritos and a six-pack of Coors light. Barbara was okay with this.

The end.

[The Intransigent Faction]

"If I'm London's Mayor, Max Keiser will be economic advisor." - George Galloway

...:laugh:

[Cliff Paul]

"Can I give you some fucking fruit juice?" - Zizek

[PhoenixAsh]

Don't take it...The guy looks like he has spiked that juice....

[Quail]

I'm suffering through the combination of an mdma comedown and pmt, feeling so sad and tearful and epically mardy. I'm thinking of giving up all drugs for a while maybe, but the thing that worries me most about that whole idea is finding drunk/stoned/high people irritating if I'm not on their level. I think weed is just generally bad for me though, and perhaps I should just admit that and not bother with it at all any more. I like being stoned, and actually I feel less anxious when stoned a lot of the time, but it starts to mess with me head.

[PhoenixAsh]

Weed makes me go paranoid and makes me really anxious and I can't deal with emotions...I also feel like I look like a moron when I am stoned. I become hyper self aware.

I don't know what that is. It always happens with downers.

[Redistribute the Rep]

I always like to monitor who has visited my page

[Sinister Intents]

I like to monitor who has been on The friendzone thread. I'm rooting for Rafiq.

[Sinister Intents]

Dreams of Communism or Delusions of Grandeur?

[PhoenixAsh]

I like to monitor who has been on The friendzone thread. I'm rooting for Rafiq.Is that because you are a fan of Lacanian Psychoanalysis and that the basis for transgender is rooted in either Penis envy and yearning to the conceptual phallus and lamenting it's absence (in women) and castration fantasies because of hatred of the father (in men)? Rooting the transgender identity in the relationship with either the father or the mother. And definIng gender identities well and firmly on the line if feminine and masculine traits and identities. And that the desire to have sex with same sex partners is because you either wanted to have sex with your father or mother when you were actually supposed to want to have sex with the opposing sex patent during childhood? Or is it because you think homosexuality is a neurosis which (part of the PSA field thinks)?

Because Lacan certainly thought it was. Little bit more complex but this sums it up in about three sentences...I could cite sources (from the field of psychoanalysis). But I guess you already know this...because you root for him to win

[Sinister Intents]

Not even the topic I brought up. No, I root for Rafiq because I agree with him. I've never read Lacan. Please, don't talk to me. Let's agree to never talk to each other, mkay?

[Cliff Paul]

gibberish

Is this your Rafiq impression?

[Redistribute the Rep]

I honestly want to make a sock just to troll Rafiq

[consuming negativity]

I'm suffering through the combination of an mdma comedown and pmt, feeling so sad and tearful and epically mardy. I'm thinking of giving up all drugs for a while maybe, but the thing that worries me most about that whole idea is finding drunk/stoned/high people irritating if I'm not on their level. I think weed is just generally bad for me though, and perhaps I should just admit that and not bother with it at all any more. I like being stoned, and actually I feel less anxious when stoned a lot of the time, but it starts to mess with me head.


Weed makes me go paranoid and makes me really anxious and I can't deal with emotions...I also feel like I look like a moron when I am stoned. I become hyper self aware.

I don't know what that is. It always happens with downers.

i am also a rower on this galley of self-destruction

i've been a lot more mentally well lately and i think getting high but not getting very high was the solution, but it's still an ongoing experiment

you get the catharsis of having your brain slow down a bit but you don't get shot so fucking far into outer space that you forget what's real and not

also, weed anxiety is 100% solved by a few shots of liquor, every time, in my experience

[BIXX]

Lacantian psychoanalysis can be useful when you take some of its concepts from its overall structure.

[Futility Personified]

My honest advice with drugs is as such: If you are worried about struggling to relate to people on drugs, consider the merits of them as they were sober, and consider the situations you share with them. Where are you going to appreciate them more? I know that when i'm at the pub having a quiet few with one or two people it is ok, at a gig it's alright as well cuz it's a gig. In all honesty i've never been to a large group thing sober as my social anxiety trip wire goes.

Cannabis paranoia is the most irritating thing in the world, as it ruins what is otherwise a most desirable state of being. It sounds odd, but I had a horrible horrible time admitting that I had a problem with cannabis. Not the fact I couldn't control myself using it, or alcohol or any other drug for that matter, but that I felt weak for not being able to handle it. I've since noticed that a lot of people who don't always experience the horrible shit, still have it to a degree. There is an element of schadenfraude when someone calls you a pussy and then they have a proper scatty one.

I've been drug free for a long time now, last thing I took was some legal high that to my best understanding was close to an mcat / speed hybrid, and the three things that put me off the most were: Knowing there was no fucking way I could go out in public without arousing suspicion, having no real control over how frequently I dosed, and the miserable depression of the day after. I'm not going drug free forever (boomtown fair will be my personal tribute to fear and loathing) but I would be a liar to say that having a break from drugs has improved my mental health. How much of this is down to the issues of illegality, parental relationships, social constraints is debatable, but it seems pretty clear cut there has been a benefit in my quality of life, if only because i'm not looking over my shoulder 24/7.

The important thing is to understand that there are some fucking awful consequences from drugs, and that as users (addiction is a different beast) we have a duty to ourselves. It does take strength to admit you can't handle your shit like you used to and decide that maybe a break would be a good idea. Doesn't mean you can't have a good time once in a while, unless you decide the benefits of being clean outweigh those of using.

So many problems are down to illegality, but a lot of them are just chemical reactions. What goes up must come down. Having written this I really desire a drink (trying to abstain though as the longest i've been in a while was 4 days sober) and i'm going to play some motown stuff so I can think about something else.

It's a bit of a minefield, being alive.

[Futility Personified]

Just realized I know next to nothing about motown and only had a vague feeling for it after listening to marvin gaye all day, which may be nothing to do with motown at all. If anyone could PM me some music advice that would be very kind.

[PhoenixAsh]

Not even the topic I brought up. No, I root for Rafiq because I agree with him. I've never read Lacan. Please, don't talk to me. Let's agree to never talk to each other, mkay?


Nope. I don't agree... Because that IS the topic you brought up


You never read Lacan, which is what he is defending in that thread, yet you agree with him without knowing what you are agreeing with. I just showed you what Lacan says about a specific topic. Since you agree with Rafiq then this means you agree with what he is defending there...so that means that you agree with that.

Check.



Is this your Rafiq impression?

This is Lacan's impression, the basis of his theory and what he implemented in his therapy sessions (to disastrous effects).

And yes...I totally agree with you that that is gibberish...which is one of the many reasons I reject PsychoAnalysis. It doesn't stop here though...

What Rafiq makes of it is not something I can comment on. The only thing I am doing is giving you an insight in some of his ideas.


Lacantian psychoanalysis can be useful when you take some of its concepts from its overall structure.

I don't think this is incorrect. Some of the theories within PSA are quite interesting.

[Sinister Intents]

PA, who said I agreed with Rafiq one hundred percent? I wish I could block you honestly. I'll have to read Lacan. Please do as I ask and not talk to me because I don't really want to talk to you, like, ever.

I was talking about communism, not Lacan

[PhoenixAsh]

PA, who said I agreed with Rafiq one hundred percent? I wish I could block you honestly. I'll have to read Lacan. Please do as I ask and not talk to me because I don't really want to talk to you, like, ever.

And I wish you would stop jabbing at and commenting on me (which you obviously were doing) when you are not actually courageous enough to actually confront me directly...or have a decent conversation when you start shit.

K? We on the same page here?

[PhoenixAsh]

i am also a rower on this galley of self-destruction

i've been a lot more mentally well lately and i think getting high but not getting very high was the solution, but it's still an ongoing experiment

I did that. It didn't work...it made me anxious about becoming anxious.
(and I should tell you that I get high from weed pretty damned quickly...like...two draws and I am off the chart). Then of course there were the times I actually got a little stoned and forgot that I should stop smoking the joints.

I think the period I smoked pot heavily really fucked up my mental health to the point where I am often depressed and lethargic.

The fucked up part is...I am in constant latent pain...and weed does help.



you get the catharsis of having your brain slow down a bit but you don't get shot so fucking far into outer space that you forget what's real and not

also, weed anxiety is 100% solved by a few shots of liquor, every time, in my experience

I never tried that actually...so I should perhaps...give it a shot *badaboom*

[Sinister Intents]

PA, I reported you, which I'm sure was disregarded by you. I don't Like you. I don't want to waste my time with you.

[Cliff Paul]

People take the internet too seriously

[Sinister Intents]

People take the internet too seriously

I'm not going through the crap I went through with Remus Bleys again.

[Cliff Paul]

I'm not going through the crap I went through with Remus Bleys again.

I was mostly referring to this:


I am going to fucking destroy you again, and again, and again. I promise you, you will NOT get your last word in that thread, I am hellbent on making sure of it, even if it takes years.

To be fair though, Rafiq's posts on Lacan are actually pretty interesting.

[Cliff Paul]

Tuna is always great while your having it but once you're finished eating you're like "fuck how do I get this taste out of my mouth".

[PhoenixAsh]

Tuna is always great while your having it but once your finished eating your like "fuck how do I get this taste out of my mouth".

Wodka. Wodka works great.

[consuming negativity]

can you two stop arguing in the what's on your mind thread about politics?

it's almost like the discussions aren't even about politics

[Cliff Paul]

Wodka. Wodka works great.

I don't do vodka anymore because it fucked up my stomach. I used to go to all the parties at my college with vodka because very few people want to mooch off a guy drinking straight vodka. But then I started having to take anti-acids because I was getting heartburn all the time.

[PhoenixAsh]

I'm not going through the crap I went through with Remus Bleys again.

...open door...


PA, I reported you, which I'm sure was disregarded by you. I don't Like you. I don't want to waste my time with you.

Yeah; fine by me Mistress Sinistra. I am sure I will stay up all night and cry about this.

Two things:

1). You made that comment fully knowing it was directed at me. Since that thread is basically between me and Rafiq now. Which is fine. But don't start crying out loud when I reply to it...in a very civil manner too...because that shit is cowardly as hell :rolleyes:

2). When you do cry...and I basically tell you that if you don't want me to respond you shouldn't comment on me and shouldn't direct comments at me...as a simple return favor...you not only report me...but post a post directed at me!! :rolleyes:

You don't like me? Fine...

Don't want to talk to me or me to talk to you? Fine too...

But don't be a fucking hypocrite and direct posts at me, make jabs at me, and apply a double standard where you are the only one who can say something but the other one can't... and on top of that...don't then run and hide behind skirts.

Because that shit is fucking cowardly and hypocritical as fuck.

Grow up.

[Bala Perdida]

I was mostly referring to this:


I am going to fucking destroy you again, and again, and again. I promise you, you will NOT get your last word in that thread, I am hellbent on making sure of it, even if it takes years.

To be fair though, Rafiq's posts on Lacan are actually pretty interesting.
Whoever you quoted sounds like a no-life.

[PhoenixAsh]

I don't do vodka anymore because it fucked up my stomach. I used to go to all the parties at my college with vodka because very few people want to mooch off a guy drinking straight vodka. But then I started having to take anti-acids because I was getting heartburn all the time.

Ahhh...yeah. I luckily don't have that problem. That is seriously fucked up. I can't imagine what I would do without Wodka...not that I drink it every day...

I have the same problem though with caramelized alcohol...which sucks because Rum is awesome! But I can't drink too much of it because it most definitely will fuck up my stomach.

Either way...you could gorggle it and spit it out? Because I wasn't kidding...I rather drink it...but Wodka is great against tastes, odors, etc. I dilute it with water and spray my booths with it. I won't see they are as fresh as a meadow...but they are a lot less deadly these days ;)

[PhoenixAsh]

can you two stop arguing in the what's on your mind thread about politics?

it's almost like the discussions aren't even about politics

It is about our latent desire for our parents ehhhh penis measuring contest ehhhh evolutionary deviation from normal behavior ehhh conditioned responses to perceived idiocy our frustration with having waaaaay to much time on our hands?

I don't know...fill it in. But yes. You are right.

[consuming negativity]

It is about our latent desire for our parents ehhhh penis measuring contest ehhhh evolutionary deviation from normal behavior ehhh conditioned responses to perceived idiocy our frustration with having waaaaay to much time on our hands?

I don't know...fill it in. But yes. You are right.

i just don't think there's such a need for it to be so personal is all

it's fitting that it moves out of the subject forums and into the personal one as the insult level rises.

[Cliff Paul]

Personally I think it's hilarious that an argument over Lacan has turned this ugly

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

RevLeft has been Drama Llama Central since... well almost always. There is definitely a sort of social dynamic at play here that rewards being a drama llama, particularly since in many cases it helps you in getting rid of people you dislike.

[PhoenixAsh]

I wasn't really kidding. The whole goddamned discussion is a farce of the personal spilling over from a long standing "we don't like each other to the point where we should probably never be in one room together" kind of situation. Funny thing is we don't disagree on all that much in any of our debates...usually it is on a part of what is said... that turns out to be really vitally, life and death, Armageddon important....on the internet.

[Sinister Intents]

My communism or Delusion post wasn't targeting or jabbing you. It's pertaining to idealism and reality

I'm not crying over anything you jerk

[Rafiq]

I was mostly referring to this:


Internet or otherwise, these are very serious matters.

Underlying motivations are irrelevant. It does not matter. Such ideas do not exist exclusively on Revleft, but float within the shared cloud of our collective, ideological space. Whether it is street graffiti, or online forums, this battle of ideas, or the class struggle in theory has no bounds - even if it has no practical effects in reality at all (which incidentally it does not make a difference to the slightest degree), before revolution this is largely all there is to be done - to yell at the wall so one is certain they have not lost their voice.

[PhoenixAsh]

My communism or Delusion post wasn't targeting or jabbing you. It's pertaining to idealism and reality

I'm not crying over anything you jerk

I didn't answer to that post now did I? See that post I made? See which post I quoted?

This is the second time by the way that you direct a post to me after you reported me for talking to you. Maybe if you do not want me to talk to you you should stop. Maybe if you think I am a jerk you should stop expecting something nice from me.

[Cliff Paul]

I want to call up Glenn Beck during his radio program and pretend that I was a former conservative but after taking his advice and reading The Coming Insurrection, I became a communist.

[Sinister Intents]

I hate it when people cisplain

[PhoenixAsh]

Internet or otherwise, these are very serious matters.

No...they really, really aren't Rafiq. And you know why? Because they don't actually matter at all. They are completely irrelevant. They don't impact anything ever outside of the intellectualizing of circle jerking.

PSA did not play a significant factor in revolutions, it did not contribute to greater class consciousness and it sure as hell isn't winning over new workers to suddenly start being revolutionary. It didn't overthrow systems. Half of the workers won't understand it...not because they are stupid...but because it doesn't concern them one bit what some intellectuals have concocted on a paper somewhere.

The only two people it truly matters to right now...is you and me...and actually it only matters to me because it gives me something to do.



Underlying motivations are irrelevant. It does not matter. Such ideas do not exist exclusively on Revleft, but float within the shared cloud of our collective, ideological space. Whether it is street graffiti, or online forums, this battle of ideas, or the class struggle in theory has no bounds - even if it has no practical effects in reality at all (which incidentally it does not make a difference to the slightest degree), before revolution this is largely all there is to be done - to yell at the wall so one is certain they have not lost their voice.

If the revolution is going to contain PSA we are all very fucking fucked....by methaphysical phallusses....which we will either have or yearn for and are always afraid will be cut off.

[PhoenixAsh]

moved posts on psa to friendzone thread

[Redistribute the Rep]

You forgot those last couple though

[Cliff Paul]

That hand-check on Lebron by Iguodala on the last play of regulation was so blatant that shit would have been called a foul in a game of pick-up ball.

[Sewer Socialist]

I rode my bike 8 hours in 90 degree heat yesterday

I worked 12 hours in 90 degree heat in a winery today

I'm, like, fried

[Bala Perdida]

I rode my bike 8 hours in 90 degree heat yesterday

I worked 12 hours in 90 degree heat in a winery today

I'm, like, fried
I have GOT to even out my tan this summer. It's gotten so bad.

[Sewer Socialist]

I have GOT to even out my tan this summer. It's gotten so bad.

My tan lines are ridiculous. Literally; they are ridiculed.

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

in summer me and my sister have on several separate occasions been asked if we're 'ethnic' in the fucking street and honest to god a few people have refused to believe us when we've said otherwise*. can't imagine how terrible that gets if you have to put up with it all the time



*specifically pretty much all our ancestors are from the british isles back to the fucking beaker people. technically it should be us asking fuckstupid racist questions in the street you anglo saxon fucks

[Sinister Intents]

People that oppose feminism on grounds that it is one-sided and seeks to incorporate matriarchy, this irks me to no fucking end

[BIXX]

I am still waiting for a feminism that hates men properly. I guess the SCUM manifesto gets p good in that regard.

[PhoenixAsh]

Define "hate".

.... if you want feminist groups that reject cooperation with men and advocate periodical and temporary separation or complete seperatism from men the you might want to look into Cell 18 and The furies...for example.

That is the closest you will probably get outside individual feminists who may hate men.

[The Intransigent Faction]

Someone I know was talking about why Nestle should be boycotted, and I threw in a reworded and somewhat shortened version of the post I made about consumer boycotts in the thread on "liberal activism", suggesting that democratizing economic decisions would bypass the need for boycotts and would be a better way to go in general. I try not to approach this stuff with a mindset of trying to "convert" someone, but I kinda had a good feeling in this case.

[Redistribute the Rep]

Everybody, please rep me. Click on the balance icon thng in the top right of this post to do so

EDIT: will rep back when I can

[BIXX]

Everybody please rep me. Click on the balance icon thng in the top right of this post to do so

EDIT: will rep back when I can
"you must spread some rep around before you do nice things'

Alright, next 10 people who give me rep will all get rep back as long as I can rep you.

[Redistribute the Rep]

Or, if you're an admin please edit my rep up.


If I get enough rep I will do a special task

[The Intransigent Faction]

Unrelated to previous post, but holy shit, sometimes I can be really fucking hypersensitive and I'm fully aware of it. Someone who doesn't even really know me beyond an incidental encounter can say shit, and I'm left reassuring myself for an hour that they're wrong. I know it's OCD-related, but ugh, having to re-read something repeatedly is one thing, but when it makes being around people more difficult, that's fucking annoying.

/endrant

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

i have literally ended friendships over trivial things because i become obsessed with it, i feel ya.

[Comrade Jacob]

Is that because you are a fan of Lacanian Psychoanalysis and that the basis for transgender is rooted in either Penis envy and yearning to the conceptual phallus and lamenting it's absence (in women) and castration fantasies because of hatred of the father (in men)? Rooting the transgender identity in the relationship with either the father or the mother. And definIng gender identities well and firmly on the line if feminine and masculine traits and identities. And that the desire to have sex with same sex partners is because you either wanted to have sex with your father or mother when you were actually supposed to want to have sex with the opposing sex patent during childhood? Or is it because you think homosexuality is a neurosis which (part of the PSA field thinks)?

Because Lacan certainly thought it was. Little bit more complex but this sums it up in about three sentences...I could cite sources (from the field of psychoanalysis). But I guess you already know this...because you root for him to win

wtf? He never mentioned anything like that, stfu.

[Counterculturalist]

Unrelated to previous post, but holy shit, sometimes I can be really fucking hypersensitive and I'm fully aware of it. Someone who doesn't even really know me beyond an incidental encounter can say shit, and I'm left reassuring myself for an hour that they're wrong. I know it's OCD-related, but ugh, having to re-read something repeatedly is one thing, but when it makes being around people more difficult, that's fucking annoying.
/endrant

I have a similar thing where after every social situation I'm in (excepting when I'm among people I know very well, like family or longtime friends) I spend an idiotic amount of time going over what a fool I made of myself. Obviously on an intellectual level I know that people have better things to do than analyze how awkward my interactions may or may not have been - I mean, it's not like I do that with anybody else - but I can't stop and HOLY FUCK is it annoying.

[Rosa Partizan]

my refugee activism group is annoying the fuck out of me. There will be new laws passed in Germany making asylum rights more difficult, so we decided to have some spontaneous demonstration this Friday (spontaneous in terms of we don't wanna register it, cause this is what you have to to in Germany :rolleyes:). We talked about spreading this and how to mobilize people and my boyfriend asked if there was information about other cities in our federal state doing something this Friday, too (it's the day the senate is probably gonna pass this law), and I was like, I'll call person xy to propose to have demonstrations in several cities starting the same day at the same time and he was like, not such a good idea, we shouldn't talk about this on the phone :rolleyes: and we talked about security stuff like buying a sim card, writing some chain short message and after that throwing it away :rolleyes: yeah it is annoying that the police has pictures taken of us and some other minor stuff, but come on, like we're the fourth generation of the Red Army Faction and federal offices are camping in front of our flats, goddamn such paranoid bullshit.

[PhoenixAsh]

In Germany you have to register your son only cards and activate them online or through the service desk of the provider.

You need to apply name, birthday and an official address. Which can be that of a hotel btw. You don't have to provide proof of identity. If you do it through phone they record the conversation.

Do it online from a computer that can not be linked to you through IP. And use a clean phone.

That is the safest way to ensure maximum anonimity

[consuming negativity]

i feel like a fucking idiot sprinkling cayenne pepper all over my stove/kitchen counter because i'm trying to get rid of a mouse without killing it

have any of you actually successfully done this? the only other thing i could find on the internet was to use moth balls but that isn't an option because my dogs will find and eat the moth balls and die and that is not what i want

[Zoop]

i feel like a fucking idiot sprinkling cayenne pepper all over my stove/kitchen counter because i'm trying to get rid of a mouse without killing it

have any of you actually successfully done this? the only other thing i could find on the internet was to use moth balls but that isn't an option because my dogs will find and eat the moth balls and die and that is not what i want

You can buy humane traps that trap the mouse without killing it, so you can just release it back outside.

[consuming negativity]

You can buy humane traps that trap the mouse without killing it, so you can just release it back outside.

i've heard that they're shit though so i've been avoiding trying to spend money on them

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

So, as I've said many times, "trigger warnings" for things not related to PTSP or similar conditions, along with things like otherkin, calling people some set of made-up pronouns, etc., are mostly restricted to a specific group of crazy people on the Internet, namely Tumblr kiddies. Now, however, it seems that it's spreading to other crazy people on the Internet, namely "rationalist" (ugh) reactionary liberals. I don't know how I find things like this, I must be fascinated by this at some level, but here (http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/01/12/a-response-to-apophemi-on-triggers/) is one example I found today. My favouritest paragraph in that trainwreck of an essay has to be this:

"But that’s not true. I’m triggered by feminism. My girlfriend is also triggered by certain kinds of feminism (long story), but also by many discussions of charity – whenever ze hears about it, ze starts worrying ze is a bad person for not donating more money to charity, has a mental breakdown, and usually ends up shaking and crying for a little while."

Holy shit. Now, I have to ask, are there really people who are this cartoonishly neurotic? Obviously people make up a lot of stuff for purposes of Internet posting - being a trigendered pyrofox from the forest planet or not being from England etc. - but it actually wouldn't surprise me if there was someone who has a mental breakdown "whenever ze [ugh] hears about [charity]". And the worst thing is that this sort of behaviour seems to be encouraged today. We aren't telling these people to get a grip, we're trying to coddle the poor trust fund babies and protect them against the vicious poor people.

Anyway it's sort of cute seeing the "the Bell Curve is really important guise we need to discuss it" brigade ape the "social justice" people, with bizarre pronouns, claims of horrible mental anguish and so on.

Also I would say I've lost my faith in humanity but that actually happened a long time ago. I still hold out a fool's hope all these people - all the Tumblr kiddies, all the "rationalists", Atheists Plus, MRAs, people who cry about cultural appropriation, neo-hippies, crystal mantra aura chakra types etc. - that they will all drive each other off the Internet, but I might as well hope the Krynn are going to invade tomorrow and appoint me prefect of Earth (although that would be glorious and all dissenters have obviously volunteered for the dust mines on the Moon).

[consuming negativity]

i have ptsd that has been triggered by people looking at me and also by being offered a drink of whiskey so maybe you should just shut the fuck up because you don't know what you're talking about

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Yes, I know PTSD (I used the Croatian spelling PTSP in the post above, as part of my nefarious plan to convince people I'm not from North England) can be triggered by nearly anything. Which is why I was talking about the use of trigger warnings for things that have nothing to do with PTSD. And there is no indication that the girlfriend of the author has PTSD. In fact the explanation given is completely incompatible with that.

[consuming negativity]

yeah it's almost like you're whining about a troll blog

[consuming negativity]

sorry to be such an asshole i just have a low tolerance for people making fun of that shit and believing everything they read on tumblr is genuine

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I'm not whining, I'm laughing at the surreal daftness of it all. And this doesn't seem like a troll blog. In fact it seems like a bog-standard "rationalist" blog. If it is a troll blog, I applaud the author for superhuman perseverance.

I also don't understand the reaction. People use the term "trigger warning" for things that have nothing to do with PTSD or other conditions where the concept of being triggered makes sense, like bulimia. Here it's used to describe the horrible pangs of a petit-bourgeois conscience. I think that's pretty ridiculous and - yes - should be ridiculed. That doesn't mean I think trigger warnings for PTSD are risible, just as I don't think poverty is ridiculous just because I mock people who want to "self-define" themselves as being "of a lower income level" although they have a fair amount of money.

[PhoenixAsh]

People who tell me that they are really trustworthy and brutally honest...then confide in me that they lie to and cheat on their best friends.

They always act so surprised when I turn out to not trust them and react to that news with righteous indignation and vengeful anger.

[Redistribute the Rep]

Xhar Xhar you take the Internet way too seriously

[Bala Perdida]

I'm not whining, I'm laughing at the surreal daftness of it all. And this doesn't seem like a troll blog. I wasn't aware you could laugh.

Anyways, I got bored and took a train to San Francisco again. Got myself a knife that is definitely illegal to conceal. How the hell else am I supposed to take it home?

[The Intransigent Faction]

You can buy humane traps that trap the mouse without killing it, so you can just release it back outside.

I read that at first as "You can buy human traps" and got all excited, thinking I'd found a way to deal with obnoxiously loud neighbours. Ah well.

[G4b3n]

So, as I've said many times, "trigger warnings" for things not related to PTSP or similar conditions, along with things like otherkin, calling people some set of made-up pronouns, etc., are mostly restricted to a specific group of crazy people on the Internet, namely Tumblr kiddies. Now, however, it seems that it's spreading to other crazy people on the Internet, namely "rationalist" (ugh) reactionary liberals. I don't know how I find things like this, I must be fascinated by this at some level, but here (http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/01/12/a-response-to-apophemi-on-triggers/) is one example I found today. My favouritest paragraph in that trainwreck of an essay has to be this:

"But that’s not true. I’m triggered by feminism. My girlfriend is also triggered by certain kinds of feminism (long story), but also by many discussions of charity – whenever ze hears about it, ze starts worrying ze is a bad person for not donating more money to charity, has a mental breakdown, and usually ends up shaking and crying for a little while."

Holy shit. Now, I have to ask, are there really people who are this cartoonishly neurotic? Obviously people make up a lot of stuff for purposes of Internet posting - being a trigendered pyrofox from the forest planet or not being from England etc. - but it actually wouldn't surprise me if there was someone who has a mental breakdown "whenever ze [ugh] hears about [charity]". And the worst thing is that this sort of behaviour seems to be encouraged today. We aren't telling these people to get a grip, we're trying to coddle the poor trust fund babies and protect them against the vicious poor people.

Anyway it's sort of cute seeing the "the Bell Curve is really important guise we need to discuss it" brigade ape the "social justice" people, with bizarre pronouns, claims of horrible mental anguish and so on.

Also I would say I've lost my faith in humanity but that actually happened a long time ago. I still hold out a fool's hope all these people - all the Tumblr kiddies, all the "rationalists", Atheists Plus, MRAs, people who cry about cultural appropriation, neo-hippies, crystal mantra aura chakra types etc. - that they will all drive each other off the Internet, but I might as well hope the Krynn are going to invade tomorrow and appoint me prefect of Earth (although that would be glorious and all dissenters have obviously volunteered for the dust mines on the Moon).

Points are somewhat valid. If calling for equality triggers you then too fucking bad. But if the trigger seems rational then you respect that if your not a dick. But how on earth is cultural appropriation not a thing? So its totally cool for college kids to dress up in full traditional native American garb to get drunk? For bourgeois white kids to sag their pants so they can feel as if they know inner city poverty? These are just totally nothing to "cry" over?

[Os Cangaceiros]

^ It's something to be looked at on a case-by-case basis. Most if not all "culture" is an amalgamation of various influences, including the influences of other cultures, so cultural appropriation is not necessarily a negative phenomenon...in fact it's unavoidable. Plus I don't think that culture is really something to be put on a pedestal that's above critique and re-interpretation. That seems like the hypothetical perspective of a nationalist.

But an individual's culture can also be subjected to ignorant chauvinism and prejudice, and that's obviously not positive.

[consuming negativity]

cultural appropriation isn't the same thing as when cultures borrow shit from each other

cultural appropriation is when we pretend that all native americans lived in teepees and were noble savages like in pocahontas because all we actually know about them is what we saw in disney movies and heard from white people who met one once at a party when he stood next to their friend

you wouldn't dress up like a native american in front of people who actually dress like that and do it as a way to make fun of them as though they don't exist like ghosts and fucking skeletons on halloween

[consuming negativity]

the only reason "feminism is my trigger" is suspect to me is because it sounds like something some stupid kid would make up to make fun of feminists and people with ptsd at the same time

but no, it is NOT your place to decide which triggers "make rational sense".

[Os Cangaceiros]

cultural appropriation isn't the same thing as when cultures borrow shit from each other

Maybe I'm taking too literally the word "appropriation" here. To me that word doesn't necessarily have a negative connotation...I'd consider bluegrass to be an example of cultural elements being appropriated, for example. But I guess it's used to refer to a phenomena that's always negative...?

[consuming negativity]

Maybe I'm taking too literally the word "appropriation" here. To me that word doesn't necessarily have a negative connotation...I'd consider bluegrass to be an example of cultural elements being appropriated, for example. But I guess it's used to refer to an a phenomena that's always negative...?

i understand why people take it that way, i used to do the same thing, but that's just not what is meant by the term in this context.


In law and government, appropriation (from Latin appropriare, "to make one's own", later "to set aside") is the act of setting apart something for its application to a particular usage, to the exclusion of all other uses.

now, think about that definition in the context of my post and you'll see how it fits in

[Quail]

i feel like a fucking idiot sprinkling cayenne pepper all over my stove/kitchen counter because i'm trying to get rid of a mouse without killing it

have any of you actually successfully done this? the only other thing i could find on the internet was to use moth balls but that isn't an option because my dogs will find and eat the moth balls and die and that is not what i want

Make sure all of your food is locked up so that mice can't reach it. Block up any holes in the all/skirting board with polyfiller or whatever. Apparently peppermint oil is supposed to deter them, but I used to spray peppermint fucking everywhere and I don't know if it did. I think keeping the place clean and blocking up holes is the most important thing.

Humane traps aren't bad, actually. You can use PB or chocolate as bait (mice love chocolate), and then carry them away somewhere and release them. Only problem is, if you live in a city and don't drive, there might not be anywhere to easily release them.

[Quail]

On trigger warnings, etc:

I do wonder sometimes whether "trigger" means the same thing to me as it does to other people. I think "trigger warnings" should be used only for things that are likely to trigger a PTSD or other mental health related response (e.g. self-injury, eating disorder). To trigger warn for things that are mildly upsetting, or to trigger warn needlessly can actually trivialise the conditions that trigger warnings were originally designed for. I do see people doing this, but I would say it's a minority.

As for "made up" pronouns, though, I can understand why non-binary people might want to do that. Most of the non-binary people I've met use the singular "they/their" pronouns, but I don't really see why anyone would object to "xe/hir" which is basically just "she/her" and "he/his" blended together.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

If you have a mouse that means you've got a hole where theyre coming in (you probably have more than one) plug the hole and then set your trap. Plus if you catch them and put them outside without plugging it they will just come back in. I initially felt bad about killing them as well, but over time they can actually hurt you so that moved them to my gotta do what you gotta do category.

[Sinister Intents]

Whenever I feel like an idiot or like my intelligence is being questioned or I get patronized. I get extremely angry and lash out on others. I also tend to get extremely irrational when I'm in one of these states and now I can't stop thinking of negative things and intrusive thoughts of harming others. Then I start skin picking and I'm paranoid about panic attacks which is making me panic..

[Quail]

Whenever I feel like an idiot or like my intelligence is being questioned or I get patronized. I get extremely angry and lash out on others. I also tend to get extremely irrational when I'm in one of these states and now I can't stop thinking of negative things and intrusive thoughts of harming others. Then I start skin picking and I'm paranoid about panic attacks which is making me panic..

It can take a while to learn how to deal with your emotions. I read somewhere that people who develop addictions in their teenage years (and I suspect this would also apply to people who self-harm/people with eating disorders) never really learn how to regulate their emotions until they deal with their addiction and they're kind of forced to learn how to be a functional adult. Certainly I struggle with emotions sometimes, and I think you have to learn to recognise when you're about to get yourself worked up, and do something to break the cycle at that moment. It takes time and practice though, of course.

For panic attacks, it would help to have something distracting to do. I'm actually sitting outside in the sun working on a novel I started a while ago and left to rot on my hard drive to distract myself from anxiety. I find just sitting around on the internet not really doing anything purposeful doesn't help at all. If all else fails, find a video game you like.

[Comrade Jacob]

Crazy shit is on my mind...crazy shit.

[The Disillusionist]

Crazy shit is on my mind...crazy shit.

We should have a crazy shit contest.

Right now, I'm thinking that I could totally start a cult based on the idea that humans are actually demons, booted from whatever heaven the universe possesses, and that the Christian mythology is simply a schizophrenic coping mechanism to disassociate ourselves from our own past actions. We are our own punishment for our actions, and we are responsible for turning the earth into hell, which will only get worse and worse until we finally destroy ourselves.

:laugh:

I don't really believe it, but it's very poetic, don't you think?

[Invader Zim]

my presentation at the ladyfest was awesome, strangers approaching me to tell me how great it was and that they learned a lot of new stuff. so proud and so exhausted at the same time, the lf finishes this sunday, so still a lot of stuff to do, but looking forward to it :)

Good stuff. Public speaking can be a pain, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I know a lot of people including really experienced professional lecturers who are always nervous before talking in public. I think it's pretty normal, but the more you do the less you'll be nervous before the event and the better you get at it. Public speaking is both an art and a science. Once you get the basics down you can give a pretty good performance, but I think it takes a life time for most people to master it.

[Redistribute the Rep]

I'm not very social but I don't really get nervous before talking in front of a lot of people. I'm just apathetic about everything lately.

[Counterculturalist]

I'm pretty terrified of public speaking, but when doing my master's recently I had to get used to it in a hurry, since most of it consisted of seminar-style courses where you're making presentations to the class almost everyday.

I got used to it, but not over it. I still hate it, which is too bad, because I can prepare a hell of a good oral presentation, I just can't deliver it very well.

[Comrade Jacob]

I'm pretty terrified of public speaking, but when doing my master's recently I had to get used to it in a hurry, since most of it consisted of seminar-style courses where you're making presentations to the class almost everyday.

I got used to it, but not over it. I still hate it, which is too bad, because I can prepare a hell of a good oral presentation, I just can't deliver it very well.

I shit myself beforehand and stumble on my words for the first minute but then I get in the flow and relax.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Xhar Xhar you take the Internet way too seriously

No, I don't think so. I definitely don't take Mr. Feminism is my Trigger seriously. But I don't think he's a troll, as many people on this thread have insinuated. It would take a really dedicated troll to put out an entire blog so they could troll people with one post. Parsimony is on the side of this guy being serious.

(Generally I think people on RL resort to the claim that people are trolls far too much. In a lot of cases it's wishful thinking.)


Points are somewhat valid. If calling for equality triggers you then too fucking bad. But if the trigger seems rational then you respect that if your not a dick.

Triggers for PTSD and similar conditions often aren't "rational" in the sense that if you don't know the past of the person in question, you couldn't connect the stimulus to the response. I mean, some things are very common as PTSD(-ish) triggers, things like rape, mentions of eating disorders etc. But a trigger can also be a thing like a baby crying.

On the other hand, what the article I linked to describes is not PTSD, or any similar condition. It's some rich girl feeling guilty and acting ridiculously neurotic about it. Here the "trigger" is rational, in the sense that anyone can see why discussions of charity might lead to feelings of guilt. But it's just one example of the misuse of the term "trigger" to refer to little more than hurt feelings and excessive reactions.

I think we need a robust notion that some reactions are excessive and that sometimes, when you feel bad, it's not the fault of other people. Otherwise we're going to be hostages to every bourgeois toff "triggered" by socialism.


But how on earth is cultural appropriation not a thing? So its totally cool for college kids to dress up in full traditional native American garb to get drunk? For bourgeois white kids to sag their pants so they can feel as if they know inner city poverty? These are just totally nothing to "cry" over?

Yes, I think blacks from the city centres of America have a lot of problems, but white kids sagging their pants is not one of them. This is an entirely idealist approach, and thankfully it seems to be restricted to the US and the UK to some extent. There was a big thread on the "issue" some time ago, and I remain convinced claims of cultural appropriation are the result of the most lurid sort of cultural purism. As for me, I've had enough of that crap in the nineties.


I do wonder sometimes whether "trigger" means the same thing to me as it does to other people. I think "trigger warnings" should be used only for things that are likely to trigger a PTSD or other mental health related response (e.g. self-injury, eating disorder). To trigger warn for things that are mildly upsetting, or to trigger warn needlessly can actually trivialise the conditions that trigger warnings were originally designed for. I do see people doing this, but I would say it's a minority.

Yeah, triggers properly speaking refer to PTSD and similar conditions (similar in the sense that arbitrary stimuli can trigger serious and dangerous responses). I think that is how they are generally used, but this use is of course mostly in support groups. On the Internet, to be honest, any time I see the words "trigger warning" I don't know if there is some serious backstory to the phrase or if someone is trying to get brownie points for being sensitive etc.


As for "made up" pronouns, though, I can understand why non-binary people might want to do that. Most of the non-binary people I've met use the singular "they/their" pronouns, but I don't really see why anyone would object to "xe/hir" which is basically just "she/her" and "he/his" blended together.

It's not, though, is it? I mean, to me it really looks like "she/her" with a variant spelling and a slight difference in pronunciation. In any case, I'm a descriptivist, and as far as I'm concerned people can call themselves as they please, but I find it ridiculous when people get upset when other people don't use the pronouns they prefer (we aren't talking about things like misgendering, but using 'they' or some other pronoun when they prefer thon or peh or whatever) and generally causing a fitna over these invented pronouns.

[cyu]

we are responsible for turning the earth into hell, which will only get worse and worse until we finally destroy ourselves.


Global warming explained :ohmy:

[Quail]

Yeah, triggers properly speaking refer to PTSD and similar conditions (similar in the sense that arbitrary stimuli can trigger serious and dangerous responses). I think that is how they are generally used, but this use is of course mostly in support groups. On the Internet, to be honest, any time I see the words "trigger warning" I don't know if there is some serious backstory to the phrase or if someone is trying to get brownie points for being sensitive etc.

As I said, I have encountered people doing this and it bothers me when it happens, but for the most part the people I know use trigger warnings (or, increasingly, content warnings) appropriately. Maybe I'm just lucky enough to have politically sound friends/acquaintances.


It's not, though, is it? I mean, to me it really looks like "she/her" with a variant spelling and a slight difference in pronunciation. In any case, I'm a descriptivist, and as far as I'm concerned people can call themselves as they please, but I find it ridiculous when people get upset when other people don't use the pronouns they prefer (we aren't talking about things like misgendering, but using 'they' or some other pronoun when they prefer thon or peh or whatever) and generally causing a fitna over these invented pronouns.
Personally, I can see how it came about, but okay. I think this is a bit of a strawman, because I've never come across anyone IRL who has used gender neutral pronouns other than they/their... But I guess if someone introduced themselves and asked me to use xe/hir, it wouldn't be a huuuge effort to respect their wishes.

[consuming negativity]

If you have a mouse that means you've got a hole where theyre coming in (you probably have more than one) plug the hole and then set your trap. Plus if you catch them and put them outside without plugging it they will just come back in. I initially felt bad about killing them as well, but over time they can actually hurt you so that moved them to my gotta do what you gotta do category.

there is an entire room of this house next to the kitchen that has no insulation and holes and gaps in the wood and shit where you can look right outside

i bought a "humane mouse trap" thing and put some peanut butter in it but i think maybe the pepper worked because there is no mouse and there is still peanut butter in the trap

i'm going to set a small feast for it on the counter before work tonight and see if i managed to deter it successfully or what

hopefully it's just the one but i have a feeling it isn't going to be because of the first sentence

[Redistribute the Rep]

No, I don't think so. I definitely don't take Mr. Feminism is my Trigger seriously. But I don't think he's a troll, as many people on this thread have insinuated. It would take a really dedicated troll to put out an entire blog so they could troll people with one post. Parsimony is on the side of this guy being serious.

(Generally I think people on RL resort to the claim that people are trolls far too much. In a lot of cases it's wishful thinking.)

I didn't say they are a troll. Even if they are serious, it's just some internet blogger, I don't this really is notable or warrants discussion.

[Sinister Intents]

Oooooh I feel an argument coming on

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I didn't say they are a troll. Even if they are serious, it's just some internet blogger, I don't this really is notable or warrants discussion.

It's notable in the sense that it's funny. And it's not like we generally discuss issues of cosmic importance in this thread.

Or I can talk about how a mosquito bit my balls. Do you... do you want me to talk about how it itches? Because it itches a lot.


Personally, I can see how it came about, but okay. I think this is a bit of a strawman, because I've never come across anyone IRL who has used gender neutral pronouns other than they/their...

Sure, and I never said people do these things in real life. They generally happen on the Internet in an unhealthy combination of self-righteousness, peer-pressure and reinforcement, trolls, and good old G.I.F.T.

[Lily Briscoe]

Haha

[Sinister Intents]

Trigger warnings are pretty cool. They are like little signs that warn you of complete horror or items that may make you uncomfortable. They're not exclusively for sufferers of PTSD.

Also it should be absolutely agreed that one should respect someone's pronouns or preferred name. You know? It's not hard at all, so don't make a big deal about people's requests to refer to them in a way that doesn't grate them personally. Just because you don't experience something doesn't make it not real or something to disregard.

[Sinister Intents]

"Oh, you're just either afflicted by PTSD, or you're trying to get brownie points for being sensitive." I don't know, this paraphrasal makes me think of liberal arguments to shut down progressives by saying they're only aiming for popularity or some other gain.

Don't take it to heart, that's my interpretation.

[Comrade Jacob]

People are pressuring me to live and I don't like it.

[Redistribute the Rep]

It's notable in the sense that it's funny. And it's not like we generally discuss issues of cosmic importance in this thread.


I don't say its not notable just because it's trivial. Mostly because I don't think its even a thing at all, since nobody else or very few other people are doing it. It's just some internet blog and nothing else .

I do see you bring up trivial Internet phenomena in other forums on this board though. That's why I made my first post,

[BIXX]

We should have a crazy shit contest.

Right now, I'm thinking that I could totally start a cult based on the idea that humans are actually demons, booted from whatever heaven the universe possesses, and that the Christian mythology is simply a schizophrenic coping mechanism to disassociate ourselves from our own past actions. We are our own punishment for our actions, and we are responsible for turning the earth into hell, which will only get worse and worse until we finally destroy ourselves.

:laugh:

I don't really believe it, but it's very poetic, don't you think?

You could say that the serpent was the representation of the idea that got us booted from heaven, eating the apple represented the action, and being pushed out of Eden was the actual expulsion from heaven.

[BIXX]

I shit myself beforehand and stumble on my words for the first minute but then I get in the flow and relax.

Man I didn't follow the conversation and thought you were talking about diarrhea.

[Ele'ill]

made a manager cry today

[Sinister Intents]

made a manager cry today

I wanna know how :wub:

[Sinister Intents]

I'm laying naked, in bed, with a quarter ounce of weed to my side. It's time to smoke and relax, as well as enjoy playing Fallout 3. Then I'll continue Poverty of Philosophy while listening to black metal.

[BIXX]

I wanna know how :wub:

Careful, Mari3L, the petty bourgeoisie are trying to learn your ways, to tunr them against us

Flee

[#FF0000]

Trigger warnings are pretty cool. They are like little signs that warn you of complete horror or items that may make you uncomfortable. They're not exclusively for sufferers of PTSD.

Nah that's not a trigger warning anymore. That's just a heads up.

[Sinister Intents]

Nah that's not a trigger warning anymore. That's just a heads up.

I'm thinking more like if it's something like rape or discussion of rape, and stuff like phobias and so on. I should draw a distinction between content notes and trigger warnings.

[Sinister Intents]

Scream, bloody liberal, scream all your breath out, tied down and listening to The Communist Manifesto played on loop, until you learn.

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

We should have a crazy shit contest.

Right now, I'm thinking that I could totally start a cult based on the idea that humans are actually demons, booted from whatever heaven the universe possesses, and that the Christian mythology is simply a schizophrenic coping mechanism to disassociate ourselves from our own past actions. We are our own punishment for our actions, and we are responsible for turning the earth into hell, which will only get worse and worse until we finally destroy ourselves.

:laugh:

I don't really believe it, but it's very poetic, don't you think?

weirdly there's something very similar to that in a high fantasy setting im writing

[BIXX]

weirdly there's something very similar to that in a high fantasy setting im writing

Some religious primitivist believe a very similar thing as well tbh but they don't think humans are demons they just think we are stupid.

[Sinister Intents]

My life is in utter contradiction to who I am and who I want to be. I don't give a fuck about this business I was never actually given, I'm still just my father's paid labor with benefits of housing, and other life necessities. I'm trapped still in a place I don't want to be. Reconciling irreconcilabities is driving me completely insane. Today my day was spent thinking about leaving everything behind. I know exactly what I have to do, but I keep getting impeded or I'm forced to make another fucking concession yet again. I could get my car put into my name after my school loan is paid off in full. Then I'll just fucking drive away to Seattle or Phoenix Perhaps. I desire heavily to move out west and live by myself until I die.

[Sinister Intents]

I just want to play guitar for the rest of the freaking evening, and play until my fingertips start bleeding and not stop. I'm sick of always fucking running around and doing for others to the point where I don't get to live my own life. My family is very demanding, my mom's dog is dying, I need hormones, my girlfriend has a line of work for me to do and I always have to drive somewhere. Always driving at some point, and never allowed to just rest for an hour because there's always something that's insisted I do. Like setting up soffit and facia board when I have no clue what I'm doing so I'm told to swim without any clue of the functionalities involved. I just want to be alone with my girlfriend and dog.

[The Intransigent Faction]

Maybe sometimes you have to be a little critical of people, but the past few days have just reinforced my belief that encouragement is far more effective than being a hardass when trying to help people reach their potential.


My life is in utter contradiction to who I am and who I want to be. I don't give a fuck about this business I was never actually given, I'm still just my father's paid labor with benefits of housing, and other life necessities. I'm trapped still in a place I don't want to be. Reconciling irreconcilabities is driving me completely insane. Today my day was spent thinking about leaving everything behind. I know exactly what I have to do, but I keep getting impeded or I'm forced to make another fucking concession yet again. I could get my car put into my name after my school loan is paid off in full. Then I'll just fucking drive away to Seattle or Phoenix Perhaps. I desire heavily to move out west and live by myself until I die.

I know the feeling. I've made some big steps recently, but I'm still in the middle of resolving that contradiction between who I am and who I want to be. Responsibilities are responsibilities, but if you're not getting the time or opportunities that you need to actually put yourself in a better position, I would recommend being frank about that with people who frequently ask for your help. That's not the same as abandoning any responsibilities that you may have, but I've been in that position before. When too many people are eager to ask for favours to the point that if you were to keep everyone happy then you wouldn't be able to do things that you need to do, it's time to be firm and honest with people about that.

[Redistribute the Rep]

Where's palmeres? He always used to rep me

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I don't say its not notable just because it's trivial. Mostly because I don't think its even a thing at all, since nobody else or very few other people are doing it. It's just some internet blog and nothing else .

I do see you bring up trivial Internet phenomena in other forums on this board though. That's why I made my first post,

The last time I mentioned trivial Internet phenomena, as far as I can recall, was to point out people were getting worked up over M"R"A"s and "the Dark Enlightenment" for no reason, so I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[PhoenixAsh]

Revleft discussing trivial Internet phenomena...

Think about it

[Quail]

I haven't had any work this week, and I've missed it. Anyone got any maths problems they need help with?

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

Some religious primitivist believe a very similar thing as well tbh but they don't think humans are demons they just think we are stupid.

that isnt nearly as cool, one more point against primitivists: no demons

[PhoenixAsh]

My girlfriend is a grey witch.

Which means she believes in demons, spirits, sprites, pixies and a whole assortment of entities. She also does magic, blood rituals, voodoo etc.

Believe is not the right word here. She "knows". For her it are facts.

[Comrade Jacob]

Just ordered some books:
Stalin: Leninism
Stalin: Marxism and the problems of linguistics
Mao: On Guerilla warfare

[Sewer Socialist]

I have messaged so many Craigslist ads that were looking for roommates. Only one has gotten back to me so far. It's really depressing. So is my job.

I bust my ass at work hard enough to injure myself, which limits what I can do outside of work, and I can't even get a response from anywhere affordable to live. This is no life to live.

I think I need to go to school and learn programming or move to a different city. Or both.

< : (

[The Intransigent Faction]

I was just reading local news about a dispute over plans for urban development. It got me thinking (distractedly, but still thinking) about how urban sprawl as it exists still makes me cringe, and it also got me pondering how it might be handled in a socialist society.

I still hope to move to a rural community some day. I just really dislike the noise, light, and air pollution of dense cities, and at least whenever I visit somewhere rural I feel incredibly more comfortable.

[Bala Perdida]

Cut myself this morning with a $5 knife. Then I got super glue all over my fingers. Missed my cut though, so that's good.

[Ele'ill]

"what we need is social media outreach"

"okay so what are we doing that people are going to follow?"

"well this way we can have people see it and then come stand around"

*fucking what* "so what are we doing that people are going to want to follow?"

"well jobs with justice has 170+ followers on their twitter that's why this thing is important"

"i don't do social media but people have hundreds of friends on fb who they don't even know, I think maybe we should focus on doing something that gets people's attention, the types of people who we want to join us when they want to, instead of dressing this up in an image that won't amount to anything other than maybe getting an invite to some shitty catering dinners that some monolithic and utterly useless organization holds annually"

"*smug face*, well how are people going to know what we're doing if we don't reach out?"

"WE AREN'T DOING ANYTHING AT ALL AND WE NEVER TALK ABOUT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAKING IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THIS AS A HOBBY, to avoid derailing this dress rehersal and future ones i'm leaving and never coming back bye"

[BIXX]

Cut myself this morning with a $5 knife. Then I got super glue all over my fingers. Missed my cut though, so that's good.

For quick fixes with a cut, pur hydrogen peroxide on the cut (alcohol work but it isn't as good) then superglie it shut. Use electrical tape as the top layer.

[Bala Perdida]

For quick fixes with a cut, pur hydrogen peroxide on the cut (alcohol work but it isn't as good) then superglie it shut. Use electrical tape as the top layer.I use DIY bandaids of electrical tape and paper towel.

[Comrade Jacob]

Got baked with a friend, it's cooling off and I'm feeling good. Freaky when I was high af

[BIXX]

I use DIY bandaids of electrical tape and paper towel.

Pretty much apply electrical tape and you'll heal fine

I just like superglue because of its ability to hold your skin shut.

[motion denied]

Just gonna stand there and watch me burn
But that's alright because I like the way it hurts
Just gonna stand there and hear me cry
But that's alright because I love the way you lie

[The Intransigent Faction]

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[consuming negativity]

made a manager cry today

"i made a human being cry"

[15 thanks]

you people are fucking idiots

[Sinister Intents]

"i made a human being cry"

[15 thanks]

you people are fucking idiots

Making authority figures cry is bad? Bah! Morals.

[consuming negativity]

Making authority figures cry is bad? Bah! Morals.

this is why nobody takes us seriously

because the only people who recognize that capitalism is shit take it out on petty managers and other members of the working class trying to scrape by

because "they're an authority figure!"

fuck your ignorance

[Sinister Intents]

Communer, keep in mind I'm joking. I'm a manager :/

[consuming negativity]

i was just about to say, what the fuck doesn't si have a small business

sorry lol

[Sinister Intents]

I don't own it, I was told I was going to, but my dad never went through with his word, so I just his privileged paid labor.

[consuming negativity]

ouch :<

i hate your parents

[BIXX]

this is why nobody takes us seriously

because the only people who recognize that capitalism is shit take it out on petty managers and other members of the working class trying to scrape by

because "they're an authority figure!"

fuck your ignorance

Dude you're a fucking idiot.

I'm sorry but when a manager is the direct agent of capital in your life, fuck them. People should make them cry. They're just the same as pigs.

[Sinister Intents]

ouch :<

i hate your parents

Well, they're good parents, but so much goes on in a year it might just be my father's laziness? Another thing is that he might be waiting to go LLC, which is roughly a thousand dollars to achieve, I believe. If what was planned goes into fruition, I tempted to just say no to the business. But, if it's in my name, I'll turn it into a collective. The positives of LLC status means no penalty to change address. I plan on moving south for a time, then west to either Nevada, Washington, or Oregon

[consuming negativity]

Dude you're a fucking idiot.

I'm sorry but when a manager is the direct agent of capital in your life, fuck them. People should make them cry. They're just the same as pigs.

you have turned against other members of the working class to punish them for what you perceive as injustice, but what is in actuality really not their fault - whether it be because they have no choice or because they're simply ignorant

what does this sound like?

oh yeah, the same victim-blaming mentality that leads to a society where the impoverished are seen not just as responsible for their situation, but deserving of it

congratulations, you have adopted the morality of the bourgeoisie and used it to justify a position that pits you against other workers, which does nothing but divide the class and allow us to be further conquered

A+ job, PC

[consuming negativity]

Well, they're good parents, but so much goes on in a year it might just be my father's laziness? Another thing is that he might be waiting to go LLC, which is roughly a thousand dollars to achieve, I believe. If what was planned goes into fruition, I tempted to just say no to the business. But, if it's in my name, I'll turn it into a collective. The positives of LLC status means no penalty to change address. I plan on moving south for a time, then west to either Nevada, Washington, or Oregon

i mean i'm sure he didn't mean it as a bad thing or anything, it just seems like they mistreat you and it bothers me is all

what does LLC status mean, both pragmatically and the actual abbreviation?

[Os Cangaceiros]

you have turned against other members of the working class to punish them for what you perceive as injustice, but what is in actuality really not their fault - whether it be because they have no choice or because they're simply ignorant

Just because someone is a member of the working class doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't worthy of spite. Members of the working class do terrible things all the time. In the realm of economics, a good example are "scabs". Workers in the past have often scabbed for perfectly understandable reasons but that doesn't mean that being a scab isn't worthy of my contempt.

People need to have moral responsibility for the way they behave and how they choose to conduct their affairs. I'm not willing to write off everyone's behavior simply because they're workers (or, even worse, because they're all members of the "human family"). The argument that they "have no choice" because they live in a negative socio-economic environment is undermined by the countless examples of other working people who work & live in that same environment, yet keep the abusive shit heel factor to a minimum.

[Sinister Intents]

i mean i'm sure he didn't mean it as a bad thing or anything, it just seems like they mistreat you and it bothers me is all

what does LLC status mean, both pragmatically and the actual abbreviation?

Sometimes they do and I don't think they see it that way. Like my mother treating me like I'm five, disregarding my identity and cisplaining to me. Or how my father seeks out to make me feel like I'm stupid and takes his frustrations out on me.

LLC is a limited liability corporation: https://www.incorporate.com/limited_liability_company.html

[Futility Personified]

I think before we all get in a twist we should remember that context is king, the assumption is that the managerial type was being a bastard, and yes, in general terms it is not very nice to make people cry.

[BIXX]

you have turned against other members of the working class to punish them for what you perceive as injustice, but what is in actuality really not their fault - whether it be because they have no choice or because they're simply ignorant

what does this sound like?

oh yeah, the same victim-blaming mentality that leads to a society where the impoverished are seen not just as responsible for their situation, but deserving of it

congratulations, you have adopted the morality of the bourgeoisie and used it to justify a position that pits you against other workers, which does nothing but divide the class and allow us to be further conquered

A+ job, PC

Your logic justifies and supoort s pigs you fuck.

[Sinister Intents]

Your logic justifies and supoort s pigs you fuck.

Liberalism infects us all. Me and you. I'm directly a part, or rather my dad is a part of the problem. Although I'd prefer the company of a petit bourgeois person than that of a pawn creature that protects the bourgeois state. At least some capitalists can be radicals. My dad ain't no radical though.

[consuming negativity]

Just because someone is a member of the working class doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't worthy of spite. Members of the working class do terrible things all the time. In the realm of economics, a good example are "scabs". Workers in the past have often scabbed for perfectly understandable reasons but that doesn't mean that being a scab isn't worthy of my contempt.

People need to have moral responsibility for the way they behave and how they choose to conduct their affairs. I'm not willing to write off everyone's behavior simply because they're workers (or, even worse, because they're all members of the "human family"). The argument that they "have no choice" because they live in a negative socio-economic environment is undermined by the countless examples of other working people who work & live in that same environment, yet keep the abusive shit heel factor to a minimum.

if they knew what they were doing and they really had a choice they would not make the wrong decision

how do i know that?

because i don't think they're any different than i am

it isn't just a matter of "we have no control over everything", but a lot of people simply don't understand things or they don't see things or think the way that other people do

and a lot of other people have really strong cognitive biases that come from their environment that fucks with their understanding of the world

i'm not saying it's wrong to be mad - it pisses me the fuck off, too. but i'm not going to be angry at them because i know that in their minds what they're doing is justified and if they knew that it wasn't justified they wouldn't be doing it.

sure, for me, i know that i wouldn't scab on a union if i were at a unionized workplace. at least, in my mind i know that. do i really know that? do i really think that there are no circumstances where i might be forced to? what if i have no money at all and children to feed, and no time to learn how to be a criminal - or maybe it's too risky because i'm the only person my kid has and i have to be there for them?

we don't know other people's situations and i choose to have faith in people.


Your logic justifies and supoort s pigs you fuck.

i'm sorry for calling you and a bunch of people idiots earlier. i didn't mean it, i was just angry.

my logic supports people. i don't think what the police do is justified a lot of the time, but i know that THEY think that it's justified, even if it's wrong, and so i don't see a point in reinforcing the fear and hatred that leads them to the beliefs that, for example, none of us can be trusted. which is exactly what i hate about cops, really - that they're always bringing my character into question and threatening me with violence. but they're doing it for a reason and once you understand the why you can begin to work on the "how" of solving the problem of policing. anger doesn't solve shit, it just clouds your judgement and makes you see the devil in people when he doesn't exist.

[Sinister Intents]

Communer, so, what's a liberal to you?

[Os Cangaceiros]

if they knew what they were doing and they really had a choice they would not make the wrong decision

how do i know that?

because i don't think they're any different than i am

I don't know what you're talking about here. People often make the wrong decision even when they're presented with a lot of relevant information. Just because you have one kind of decision-making process doesn't mean that other people are like you and follow the same kind of decision-making process, except only in the most basic sense.


i'm not saying it's wrong to be mad - it pisses me the fuck off, too. but i'm not going to be angry at them because i know that in their minds what they're doing is justified and if they knew that it wasn't justified they wouldn't be doing it.

Just about every tyrant in history who deserved a bullet and a shallow grave thought that their actions were "just", or at least part of the natural order of things. That's a terrible justification.


sure, for me, i know that i wouldn't scab on a union if i were at a unionized workplace. at least, in my mind i know that. do i really know that? do i really think that there are no circumstances where i might be forced to? what if i have no money at all and children to feed, and no time to learn how to be a criminal - or maybe it's too risky because i'm the only person my kid has and i have to be there for them?

we don't know other people's situations and i choose to have faith in people.

The "I need money and I have a family to feed argument" doesn't lend any justification for scabbing, sorry. As if all the people who suffer to hold the strike aren't in exactly the same position. As if innumerable strike actions across history weren't comprised of people who "needed money and had families to feed". :rolleyes: I'm a commercial fisherman and the last strike we had where I live, in 2002, which involved a lot of fishermen and cannery workers, was effectively broken by a select number of scabs. The poorest fishermen with the most to lose in a strike held the line and did not scab. I have absolutely no sympathy for scabs today and I hope they rot...I know people to this day who will still not speak to the people who broke that strike, such a bitter defeat.

[cyu]

keep in mind I'm joking. I'm a manager :/


He's a class traitor traitor!

Get him! Wait, are we supposed to get him?

[Sinister Intents]

He's a class traitor traitor!

Get him! Wait, are we supposed to get him?

I'm not a he, or maybe you're joking, I'm baked as fuck.

I think it's situational whether we gulag the capitalists or not

[consuming negativity]

I don't know what you're talking about here. People often make the wrong decision even when they're presented with a lot of relevant information. Just because you have one kind of decision-making process doesn't mean that other people are like you and follow the same kind of decision-making process, except only in the most basic sense.

Just about every tyrant in history thought that their actions were "just", or at least part of the natural order of things. That's a terrible justification.

The "I need money and I have a family to feed argument" doesn't lend any justification for scabbing, sorry. As if all the people who suffer to hold the strike aren't in exactly the same position. As if innumerable strike actions across history weren't comprised of people who "needed money and had families to feed". :rolleyes: I'm a commercial fisherman and the last strike we had where I live, in 2002, which involved a lot of fishermen and cannery workers, was effectively broken by a select number of scabs. The poorest fishermen with the most to lose in a strike held the line and did not scab. I have absolutely no sympathy for scabs today and I hope they rot...I know people to this day who will still not speak to the people who broke that strike, such a bitter defeat.

i'm not trying to justify anything, i'm trying to understand it. i'm not saying they were right to do it, i'm saying that they thought they were right to do it. i'm not saying that that justifies it, i'm saying that they don't even understand what it is that they actually did if they think it was justified, if we KNOW that it wasn't, which we often don't, but you may very well know - i don't know.

hopefully that sentence makes sense lmao

but i'm not saying that there are or are not good reasons to scab - i'm saying that i don't know because i've never been put in that situation. i've always been poor and i would love to think that no matter what that i'd always make the right choice for myself and for everybody else by supporting the union, but i can't say for sure that i would because i haven't been put in the situation. and i say that as someone who is currently working hard to try to unionize my workplace.

at this point i'm not even saying you're wrong so much as saying i don't have an opinion on the matter worth bothering with because i don't have the experience with the specific situation. i don't blame you for hating them i just don't see expressing that hatred as productive under any circumstances. i generally don't see any point in expressing negative emotions to other people unless it's to vent them in a constructive manner, or some other redirection that doesn't serve to increase inter-alienation. not talking to them is not making them cry - if they cry over it, it would be from their own guilt for having made the wrong decision.

but the way to treat workers who refused to join the union is a long, far cry away from supporting treating someone like shit, completely out of context, because they happen to be a manager.

[consuming negativity]

I don't know what you're talking about here. People often make the wrong decision even when they're presented with a lot of relevant information. Just because you have one kind of decision-making process doesn't mean that other people are like you and follow the same kind of decision-making process, except only in the most basic sense.

Just about every tyrant in history thought that their actions were "just", or at least part of the natural order of things. That's a terrible justification.

The "I need money and I have a family to feed argument" doesn't lend any justification for scabbing, sorry. As if all the people who suffer to hold the strike aren't in exactly the same position. As if innumerable strike actions across history weren't comprised of people who "needed money and had families to feed". :rolleyes: I'm a commercial fisherman and the last strike we had where I live, in 2002, which involved a lot of fishermen and cannery workers, was effectively broken by a select number of scabs. The poorest fishermen with the most to lose in a strike held the line and did not scab. I have absolutely no sympathy for scabs today and I hope they rot...I know people to this day who will still not speak to the people who broke that strike, such a bitter defeat.

i'm not trying to justify anything, i'm trying to understand it. i'm not saying they were right to do it, i'm saying that they thought they were right to do it. i'm not saying that that justifies it, i'm saying that they don't even understand what it is that they actually did if they think it was justified, if we KNOW that it wasn't, which we often don't, but you may very well know - i don't know.

hopefully that sentence makes sense lmao

but i'm not saying that there are or are not good reasons to scab - i'm saying that i don't know because i've never been put in that situation. i've always been poor and i would love to think that no matter what that i'd always make the right choice for myself and for everybody else by supporting the union, but i can't say for sure that i would because i haven't been put in the situation. and i say that as someone who is currently working hard to try to unionize my workplace.

at this point i'm not even saying you're wrong so much as saying i don't have an opinion on the matter worth bothering with because i don't have the experience with the specific situation. i don't blame you for hating them i just don't see expressing that hatred as productive under any circumstances. i generally don't see any point in expressing negative emotions to other people unless it's to vent them in a constructive manner, or some other redirection that doesn't serve to increase inter-alienation. not talking to them is not making them cry - if they cry over it, it would be from their own guilt for having made the wrong decision.

but the way to treat workers who refused to join the union is a long, far cry away from supporting treating someone like shit, completely out of context, because they happen to be a manager.

[consuming negativity]

not that anybody gives a shit but i just remembered, update on the mouse situation, it is a mice situation and my entire kitchen has been colonized

the trap didn't catch shit but the cayenne pepper worked where i used it originally and it has been deployed

[Comrade Njordr]

My parents are hammered out of their minds and it really fucking sucks trying keep them from unintentionally killing themselves. :mad:

[The Intransigent Faction]

I'm watching the live stream of E3. There's some cool stuff! :)

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I was ambushed by a collection of mosquitoes, which Wikipedia claims is called a "scourge". In any case I look like an enemy from a Resident Evil game now.

Fuck mosquitoes.

[Sinister Intents]

Graves don't dig themselves.

[Zoop]

A great story idea turns to liquid shit as soon as I try to write it :glare:

[Cliff Paul]

Although the season finale of GoT was pretty lame, the season finale of Black Sails was amazing

[Quail]

A great story idea turns to liquid shit as soon as I try to write it :glare:

Write down your idea and maybe come back to it when you're in more of a writing frame of mind. Or maybe make a plan and don't write it in chronological order, then you can pick and choose what you feel like writing about. Don't give up though :)

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I haven't slept for two days and my eyes are like THE BEES THEY STING JUSTIN and I have to pick up some papers at uni which means a two-hour drive for a bunch of paper I should really be allowed to legally enslave students and have them do my chores for me.

[Quail]

I've got the "shouldn't have taken that mandy at the weekend" blues and I've been procrastinating sending one fucking email for like 3 hours now.

[Sinister Intents]

Getting up and getting ready in the morning is hard.

[Comrade Jacob]

I could do with a good purge right now.

[Comrade Jacob]

Why do I keep coming back to this shit forum?

[Quail]

I've been procrastinating sending one fucking email for like 3 hours now.

Email sent!
It was literally 2 small paragraphs of text, but I get so anxious about sending emails it's kind of ridiculous.

[Sinister Intents]

I'm thinking of starting a thread on sexuality and another on mansplaining and cisplaining