United States World Power!

[Imperial Power]

Many of you seem to live in a fairy tale world and want the impossible. The commnist theory is flawed and those of you that believe in it are blinded with ignorance. Communism never has worked and never will work. You can say it hasn't existed in its most pure form, I don't care it's B.S. Most of you seem to be Limies with nothing better to do than criticize democracy. I think you all have personal problems and lack the drive to compete in a capitalistic world.

[koba]

ummm none of us critizized DEMOCRACY we are all FOR democracy....TRUE democracy which doesn't truly exist either. Your obviously ignorant on the subject but anyway .... Economically communism works and has been proven. The rest of the communistic idea's have never truly been applied. Oh and by the way its CAPITALISM we hate :)

get your facts straight, and then come and argue... at least proove what u say, and insults will get u no where.

[Son of Scargill]

Having spent 3 years of my life competing in the capitalist world(and I'll most likely get shit off some people for this) I can say that the system in the UK is serverely loaded towards the big players and their masonic and golf playing cronies.The way to succeed is through bribery,tax avoidance and/or illegal activities in order to gain enough money to make yourself look respectable down at the golf/country club.The easier way is to be born into money,that saves you the trouble of a few years scrimping and scraping in order to afford the car,the clothes,the golf clubs and the operation to remove any concern for anyone but yourself.The working classes obviously don't fall into the second catorgary,so the other option is to be a lying,cheating,self-serving,egotistical wanker(with an expensive lawyer).Admittedly,there is the occaisional success story,but(in the UK at least)of every 5000 small businesses started,4950 of them will go bust in 2 to 5 years.This is not just down to bad business practice(although some inevitably are),but down to the fact that big business feeds off the small businesses.Let the small guys undercut each other,they get phenomenally cheap deals.When one goes under,who cares?There will always be another sucker to come along and fill their shoes,dreaming the American,British,German,Your Country here....dream.The reality is that if your face doesn't fit,you're fucked..........capitalism?democracy?That's bullshit......
Btw,my business was making £250,000 pounds per annum after the second year(at least on paper).The cost of taking major companies to court cost a fortune,and the fuckers fought every inch of the way.I could have carried on,but I was not willing to sell my soul to any bank.Not then,not now,not ever.Living in the land of faeries maybe,but at least I'm not living as a capitalist,with the knowledge that I'm human scum.


Imperial Power?How apt..But read the history books,empires don't last forever.....Just hope you trigger happy cowboys don't take down the rest of the planet with your death throes.

[Michael]

"God bless the united states of america!"
I think I'm gonna cry with your signature...

[Renegade]

Don't cry Michael, god is damning them right now

[Kez]

We arnet actually against our working comrades in the usa, just the bastard government and its imperialism

TOWARDS REVOLUTION
comrade kamo

[Derar]

and against capitalist and racist americans ..........

also all sheeps ( blind americans ) must be educated , or else ........... killed !

[booga]

Quote: from Son of Scargill on 9:43 am on Jan. 4, 2002
Having spent 3 years of my life competing in the capitalist world(and I'll most likely get shit off some people for this) I can say that the system in the UK is serverely loaded towards the big players and their masonic and golf playing cronies.The way to succeed is through bribery,tax avoidance and/or illegal activities in order to gain enough money to make yourself look respectable down at the golf/country club.

son of scargill, wow that is incredible but believable. right now the internal revenue service (IRS) which is the most powerful government entity in the u.s. is making a move. the attorney bar association is backing the IRS up in the IRS attempt to offer corporations "incentive" to "reveal" sources up front. if the corps are willing to give up "shelter" houses then the IRS will most likey pardon them so to speak but has made it clear that they will have no mercy on anyone caught later on. hmm, makes me wonder... anyway the point is they are using methods they feel appropriate since they cannot apply the law to fight the stealing of money that belongs to the economy. i mean loop holes are okay only if they promote well being for the "people" not luxury living or for the promotion of evil destruction. by the way im still analyzing this one, i hope it makes sense.



(Edited by booga at 8:26 pm on Jan. 4, 2002)

[Zippy]

Quote: from Imperial Power on 2:58 am on Jan. 4, 2002
Many of you seem to live in a fairy tale world ...
If i did live in a fairy tale world, our schools wouldnt be underfunded and our hospitals wouldnt be falling apart.

No where did i park my horse and carriage ?

Zippy.

[revolutionary spirit]

i propose a motion to rename Imperial Power CNN's *****

[Zippy]

I second it. ;)

Zippy.

[Son of Scargill]

Booga,sounds like a good idea,but somehow I think most corporations will find ways to get around this.They're not stupid when it comes to avoiding their financial obligations.Furthermore,a lot of the corruption is involved in middle management(after all,CEO's don't tend to succumb to bribery,they're rich enough by that stage).These people will close ranks,and if they have to,they'll find scapegoats,people they consider expendable,or who don't quite fit into their scheme of things.Maybe it will make a difference,I hope so.But I'm not holding my breath.

(Edited by Son of Scargill at 8:33 pm on Jan. 4, 2002)

[Kez]

i motion we declare (the real) zippy king of mongolia

comrade kamo

[Freiheit]

In my new snowboard-magazine (canadian) was a advertisment "GOD BLESS AMERICA".

i got so angry, amna

[CommieBastard]

Hmm, methinks imperial power is a troll...

it really is funny tho, the way the majority of americans will go on about how they love democracy, and then tell everyone that they cant question their govt. LOL, man they really are blind....

the USA's motto should be "To protect freedom, we must destroy it", hell, it's not like everyone else cant hear it in every word they say anyway...

[Nickademus]

Quote: from Freiheit on 4:11 am on Jan. 5, 2002
In my new snowboard-magazine (canadian) was a advertisment "GOD BLESS AMERICA".

i got so angry, amna



around here there are still american flags everywhere showing our support for 9/11. its sickening. i can't stand it. we definately follow the US too much.

[flames of the flag]

what you do with the signs is scribble ou the bless and write in damn.that'll teach em.
IMp. power are you a federal agent here to keep an eye on us lefties? Anyways fuck off! i don't want to compete in a capitalist world, spending all my time working to recieve the highest possible wage and gain material wealth, that's stupid, life should be about more than that
Also i second the motion to rename imperial power cnn's *****, or maybe even wolf blitzer's sex slave (lol, watch that show up in the national inquirer)

[Zippy]

Quote: from CommieBastard on 2:51 pm on Jan. 5, 2002
Hmm, methinks imperial power is a troll...
Was it his terrible facial hair and bad breath that gave him away ?

Zippy.

[Imperial Power]

Zippy I believe you have me confused with your mother. All your responses confirm my theory that communists are simple minded and swept into it by fairy tale propaganda. I know that most of you get your news off antiamerica.com and The Communist Conspirator Daily, but that doesn't mean the TV networks are always wrong. Those of you trying to attack me don't any logical arguments to say against me so you attack what your afraid of, but thats ok with me if you want to call each other names. Some of you seem obsessed with this community maybe instead of sitting infront of the computer whinning that your rich neighbor isnt the same as you. Go and find a job so you can see the advantages of capitalism.

[libereco]

he is a troll...just ignore him.

[vox]

liberco is right, he's just a troll, and, of course, we all know the first rule of the Internet: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!!!

Unless, of course, they are amusing, and I found this to be amusing:


"Those of you trying to attack me don't any logical arguments to say against me so you attack what your afraid of, but thats ok with me if you want to call each other names."

How's that? "...to attack me don't any..?" What's that mean, anyway? Or this, "...attack what your afraid of..." Did it mean "you're afraid of," perhaps? And, of course, it ends a sentence with a preposition, though I too do that on occasion, so I won't kvetch.

Fact is, IP has said nothing. Nothing at all. Blustering blowhards seldom do, of course, though he's shown all of the qualifications (idiocy, pride, obedience) to be a good president of the United States of Atrocities.

So, let's have fun with him, and when he goes away, tail tucked between his legs, we won't miss him.

vox

[Conghaileach]

from vox:
"Those of you trying to attack me don't any logical arguments to say against me so you attack what your afraid of, but thats ok with me if you want to call each other names."

How's that? "...to attack me don't any..?" What's that mean, anyway? Or this, "...attack what your afraid of..." Did it mean "you're afraid of," perhaps? And, of course, it ends a sentence with a preposition, though I too do that on occasion, so I won't kvetch.I think he may have a martyr complex. He'll be on the boards and eventually we'll all get tired of him and we'll all be telling him to fuck off, then he can go back to his fascist friends and tell them how he attempted to talk some sense into the commies but was banned or whatever. Quite sad really.

[Imperial Power]

Someone tell me how socialism would work on a world wide scale. I need a good laugh.

[Imperial Power]

Vox in the future I'll have my posts edited by the English Department so that you can understand them.

[ComradeFubar]

Imperial Power u come onto this board slinging shit and then u keep going on about crap that u cant even back up with evidence...and then u have the nerve to tell us to explain how socialism/communism would work on a world scale...look around u fool there is plenty of information for u on this board and on the internet...it just shows how blind u are from all those years of "American Histroy" classes and CNN live..so blind u dont even know were to look for information

[ComradeFubar]

Imperial Power u come onto this board slinging shit and then u keep going on about crap that u cant even back up with evidence...and then u have the nerve to tell us to explain how socialism/communism would work on a world scale...look around u fool there is plenty of information for u on this board and on the internet...it just shows how blind u are from all those years of "American Histroy" classes and CNN live..so blind u dont even know were to look for information

[Imperial Power]

ComradeFubar was so mad he said it twice.

[ComradeFubar]

repetion is a good way of getin ur point across....
repetion is a good way of getin ur point across:):)
repetion is a good way of getin ur point across....
repetion is a good way of getin ur point across:):)

[gooddoctor]

imperial power you little creep, tell me to go get a job why don't you! what, you don't think socialists work? you don't think we can succeed in life? i myself am at one of the best universities in the world, i went to an american private school in germany. in between i worked in a factory. i am part of your fucking elite so don't come in here and spout bullshit. this isn't the place for being personal, it's for decent discussion. and none of your racism either little troll, you might not like english people, but i suggest you go there and find out for yourself, go on, see what life's like for people living outside america. find out about us too before spewing your prejudice at us, you will find that most of the people here, from all over the world, are only interested in communism from an historical point of view, where despite the fascist politics of so-called communist regimes in the past, we want to learn from something that obviously has a lot to offer ordinary people in a world that is far from perfect and could be a lot better. look around you, are you satisfied with the world, all the war, the hunger, the poverty, our degraded environment. something is definitely wrong there. the socialist economy in the past has proved to be miraculous, and perhaps we can use some of the principles socialism espouses to make people's lives here better. peace, human rights, the environment, worker's rights, mass media, public services, free health care, access to education, public transport, the welfare state, these are all social institutions. but what does the average american know about these things? capitalism threatens us all. your forefathers didn't understand what capitalism would become, that it would allow the most powerful nation on earth to impose its perverted culture on the entire world, subjecting the developing world to the most evil of empires. extremes of anything kill people, and so too does capitalism in its millions. the only place for americans to come into contact with issues such as these is in forums like this, where people can exchange ideas freely, people who are sick of hearing corporate propaganda all day on our tvs telling us that everything's going to be fine, just go about your everyday lives, don't question, and the people you voted for will serve your best interests. is this really happening? fuck off! people have to question, that's democracy, we're exercising our rights here, but then again that's another thing you or your evil empire don't seem particularly interested in. ask yourself sheep, who's the naive one? you think you know everything? oh i don't know why i waste my time.

(Edited by gooddoctor at 11:53 am on Jan. 7, 2002)

[Nickademus]

i agree with the gooddoctor. you imperial power do not know us. many of us do have jobs and are forced to live in the capitalist world and it sure as hell isn't doing me any good. the capitalist world has made me a slave to money. by the time i am done school i will be $100, 000 CAD in debt. thank you capitalism. i've worked in many types of jobs but know it is not what i am capable of. but why should i be forced to go so far into debt when im not doing what i'm doing for the money. i'm doing what i'm doing to help people why can't they help me for a while and get me through school?

anyway i rant and i'm going to be late.

[El Che]

execlente post goddoctor.

[Imperial Power]

Gooddoctor I must thank you for the laugh you gave me; I have never been called a sheep.

[El Che]

instead of laughing try listening to him, better yet try conter arguementing him lol

[gooddoctor]

no problemo. today, on this planet of 6 billion human beings, 2 billion people live on less than two dollars a day, one million people are on the verge of starvation, 1 in 8 americans is born into poverty as defined by the un (as opposed to 1 in 3 in the uk), less than 1% of the planet's population goes to university, our ice caps will melt this century unless something is done (but bush just rejected the kyoto protocol which regulates carbon emissions, but that's okay because he says it's in "the best interests of the american people"), around 30 wars are raging across our planet, roughly equal to the amount of countries the us has bombed since ww2. while all this is going on, wealth is flowing away from the poor countries towards the rich, this happens on a national scale as well. basically, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, and this leads to death, pestilence and misery on a grand scale. of course capitalism isn't the only problem, but it does make it worse and prevents people who genuinely have an interest in improving lives from doing their job, charity and aid workers, human rights campaigners and suchlike. that's just shit on a global scale, back home it's easy to forget and laugh when you're down the pub, but we are facing problems too. in mid-december i attended a 100,000 strong trades union march in brussels, belgium at the european summit meeting. we were protesting against a neo-liberal policy in europe that is attempting to remove all the laws that protect ordinary citizens from the extremes of capitalism through deregulation and privitisation. they cheapen public services, and threaten people's livelyhoods. the demo was supported by the english and scottish trades unions so i decided to go because i'm tired of all the bullshit. but how do people find out about this kind of thing? they can't because our source of information, the media, is controlled by capitalists. that doesn't mean it's all bad, some individual journalists do still respect the truth, but others are just interested in their careers and cynical corporations control exactly what we think. in a bid to sell more papers they report on big flashy events and appeal to people's prejudices rather than focusing on real issues. rupert murdoch alone, that friendly old-school capitalist, controls 35% of newspapers in the uk, whatever he says goes and he owes a lot of favours to a lot of very powerful people. trust me, i would like to go into journalism when i graduate, and the industry is ugly and corrupt. our governments are trying to sell out our health and education services too, in order to raise short term funds and transfer responsibility, but this is all an illusion because when something goes wrong, it's the government who has to clean up. you can see this in british railways where the company responsible for track up-keep fucked up and went bust, and now the government has to use our money to make it safe again. furthermore, even the air we breathe is poison because it is cheaper for factories to disregard environmental regulations than it is to pay the fines for leaking toxic fumes into our air. also, corporations are trying to force us to eat genetically modified produce, which seems harmless enough, but is untested and can cause cancer. have you ever wondered what's in a big mac? fucking poison that's what! america has the single largest problem with cancer because it is the most polluted country on earth and people eat shit. god bless the american people and america, but your government, and ours, is corrupt and something's got to be done. you could just say "oh well, that's life, face it", but then war, hunger, poverty and misery will continue and it doesn't have to be that way, we can make a difference. however, if the american empire continues to spread in its present form, things will only get worse for us, but better for a tiny elite. i am in a position where i can really help make people's lives better, to use the great opportunities that i've been given in life to make sure that less fortunate people get the same opportunities. i'm not interested in your rat race, that empty life holds no interest for me.

(Edited by gooddoctor at 5:39 pm on Jan. 8, 2002)


(Edited by gooddoctor at 5:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2002)