British Spart here :)

[19carmen17]

Hola amigos, I’m a 19-year-old cis female, ethnically Spanish but moved to Britain when I was 10. Politically, I’m an orthodox Trotskyist, vehemently anti-liberal and place great importance on feminism and queer liberation as integral parts of Marxism. I’ve also been taking an interest in dialectics lately. This seems like a great community and I look forward to getting involved in discussion on this site!

[Q]

Welcome :)

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[Fourth Internationalist]

Hola amigos, I’m a 19-year-old cis female, ethnically Spanish but moved to Britain when I was 10. Politically, I’m an orthodox Trotskyist, vehemently anti-liberal and place great importance on feminism and queer liberation as integral parts of Marxism. I’ve also been taking an interest in dialectics lately. This seems like a great community and I look forward to getting involved in discussion on this site!



Welcome fellow Trotskyist! You identify as both a Spartacist and a feminist, but doesn't the Spartacist League/the ICL oppose feminism? (Feminism being, in their eyes, a historically bourgeois movement rather than a synonym for women's liberation)

[Art Vandelay]

Welcome, hope you find your participation here useful. I find it interesting that you say your political sympathies lay with the sparts and that you consider feminism as integral to Marxism, as the ICL rejects feminism. Anyways, always glad to see more trots on the forum.

[motion denied]

another spart it's habbening

Anyway, welcome.

[19carmen17]

Thanks everyone :) Sorry for any mistakes, I still have my Spanish blood:grin:
Of course, I don't agree with everything that the ICL says (I disagree with their view of ISIS as an anti-imperialist force for instance). I certainly agree with the essence of the ICL's argument, which rightly attacks liberal feminism for viewing patriarchy and the liberation of women as abstract phenomena which can be destroyed/achieved by getting more women to participate in bourgeois state and in business, and by getting bourgeois states and organisations to come to the woman's defence, but I think that they are wrong in their definition of feminism. Feminism does not have to mean thinking that women's oppression is caused by something other than class society and material circumstances, and indeed, thinking this has turned what should be a struggle for women's liberation intertwined with the struggle for proletarian liberation into an utterly bourgeois movement. There have been numerous socialist and Marxist feminists and analyses of patriarchy as well. It is opposition to patriarchy that is the defining characteristic of feminism. The reason I call feminism an integral part of Marxism is that the patriarchy is a defining feature of capitalism, and women the dominant part of the proletariat. By extension, anyone who agrees that women are oppressed and who seeks to abolish the cause of patriarchy (class society, and resulting institutions like the family) and liberate the proletariat - therefore, all communists - is also a feminist.

[Comrade Marcel]

I predict that we won't finish our popcorn before this one leaves the Sparts.

[Fourth Internationalist]

Ah okay! Many self-identified Marxist feminists and non-feminist Marxists have the same views on women's liberation, but each defines feminism differently. As long their understanding of women's oppression is consistently Marxist, it doesn't matter much if the term "feminism" is used or not used.:)

[Comrade Marcel]

Ah okay! Many self-identified Marxist feminists and non-feminist Marxists have the same views on women's liberation, but each defines feminism differently. As long their understanding of women's oppression is consistently Marxist, it doesn't matter much if the term "feminism" is used or not used.:)

OMG NO YOUR A RAPIST PATRIARCH BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE THE TERM FEMINISM. MARX WAS A MAN THAT PROVES IT! :grin: