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Autodidact_36
24th March 2015, 09:16
It was said once was that a specter haunted most of Europe; and that specter was communism. Communists of that era wanted to liberate the exploited masses of workers from the immoral exploitation at the hands of the factory owners of the industrial revolution. There dream was of a society where the workers controlled the tools of industry and be the sole beneficiary of the wealth and profit created from their labor. A society where the state existed only to concern it self with the needs of the laborer and that everything would be collectively owned by the masses. That their would be only the worker; and no one controlling or hoarding the wealth created through the labor of the worker or proletariat. Every several revolutions in several nations; communists states appeared. During the twentieth century, communism seem to be a more accepted ideology among third world nations and seem to thrive where the masses where impoverished. But by the end of the twentieth century communism failed as a ideology and how been perceived as a very oppressive and totalitarian system in the minds of most; which is well deserved. Some proclaimed that Western Liberal Democracy had triumph and that the epitaph of communism had been written.
Is that true or is the time we live in perhaps as fertile ground for the growth of Communism again if those who perhaps represent this hypothetical movement remember why communism failed in its primary ambition to liberate the proletariat and make his existence free of exploitation and see that he is the sole beneficiary of the wealth created from his labor.
I say once again a specter haunts not only Europe but the entire globe, and that specter is uncertainty. Since the sub prime housing disaster in America in the year 2008; there has been a perceived malaise in the global economy while the entire economies such as Greece are near very close financial collapse. In the West, most are in dept and in some nations recession means that many are either afraid of becoming unemployed and being left penniless while deeply in dept. In other nations, people are impoverished and in some instances being exploited in the name of profit at the hands of financial entities in the West. Other nations seem to be experience growth and a higher standard of living, but still live a life which is much more frugal then in the West, though wonder if growth can be maintained to lift them out of poverty. There is a uncertainty about the future and perhaps many have pessimism about the future rather then optimism. But the once common factor in all nations is that the worker or proletariat is the majority and sometimes is defenseless from the consequences of a global recession while Wall Street and financial controllers in government can still watch from ivory towers. Though such influential institutions are not wholly to blame for this recession; they had much influence over the system in 2008 yet fear no change in their standard of living. America; once a bastion to the world because of their middle class and standard of living; now are struggling financially in some sectors. Tent cities have appeared occasionally and where full of homeless American's who cannot find work. The government will use money to bail out financial institutions who where culpable in the economic disaster of 2008; yet since most government money is taken from the majority, much from the taxes of the salaries of the proletariat. How did the government respond to these communities of their homeless citizens? Does it not seem that the government is more concerned with maintaining the lifestyle of the infinitely wealthy then with the welfare of the masses. There is a specter looming over the world of uncertainty, and uncertainty of what tomorrow and the years to come are to bring.
Why is the time now for the possibility of a reemergence of communism, I would say for several reasons. I believe that many laborers are becoming disconnected from the world around them; whose lives are one of doing their labor then who's free time is now in some instances your connection to the world of being over the media or spend there time primarily concerned with personal issues. How many might find the notion in being involved with a movement that will help him realize his singular importance to the society of which he is apart and give him a sense as something more then a labor. Some movements or revolutions are more about changing those who take part in it rather then changing the world. Through a mass movement of societies most necessary member based on the concept of solidarity among the proletariat and a combined effort to improve his lot in life through the consolidation of the masses.
The second reason why is that I believe among the masses there is a growing cynicism for Wall Street and capitalism; perhaps now is a time for a movement which adamantly opposes private ownership of the vast wealth which was created from the workers labor. A perception of a collective endeavor whose methods are entirely within the bounds of the law to oppose the control of all wealth and influence over governmental through finance. To oppose capitalism as it is practiced through a sense of brother and sisterhood among the proletariat based upon the belief they are the ones who allow simplicities to continue and not the money manipulators. Through numbers and working through the system; improve the lot of the proletariat and see that the wealth created through his labor is not hoarded in very few hands about used only to make the proletariat life better.
I suggest a new form of communism which will be different. It for collective ownership where the means of production and other institutions are public own, opposition to blatant militarism and that taxes made from the laborer should solely be used to is benefit him and not spent on wars of no real strategic interest to the proletariat or taxes for redundant bureaucracy which is of no use the the worker; a commitment to environmentalism and the ecology; a movement which also is concerned with poverty and the needs to those who have it the worst and to be a advocate for human rights. This manifesto will be about laws meant to restrain government or corporate power and the prevention of any one group or individual amassing to much power of any kind. It will be of how to deal with crime through changing what factors exist within society that lead young men to become criminals. It will be for social and economic equality for all people. It will be for using science to better the lives of the proletariat but also for prohibiting technologies which may be harmful to the masses. But even if such a movement where possible, its goals much be achieved slowly over decades since abrupt change is destructive.
I'll end this introduction that in any movement, a sole member should not receive all the notoriety but that the movement should be faceless and all its credit going to every single man and woman who fight for it.

Tim Cornelis
24th March 2015, 15:25
There's a large number of grammatical errors and awkward phrasing, and the font size makes it annoying to read. Those can easily be fixed.

But far more importantly, your theory is simply inadequate. Communism cannot be innovated because it originates from material premises now in existence, it is not an idea that you can tweak based on moral or rational preferences. But your belief what communism is is also inaccurate. The Stalinist states were not communistic, as communism is a society without classes, without state, without commodity production, without money. And so your proposal for corporate taxes, and fair tax distribution, etc. presuppose the non-existence of communism. What you propose is social capitalism and your ideology is closer to social-democracy.

MarxSchmarx
25th March 2015, 01:43
I suggest a new form of communism which will be different. It for collective ownership where the means of production and other institutions are public own, opposition to blatant militarism and that taxes made from the laborer should solely be used to is benefit him and not spent on wars of no real strategic interest to the proletariat or taxes for redundant bureaucracy which is of no use the the worker; a commitment to environmentalism and the ecology; a movement which also is concerned with poverty and the needs to those who have it the worst and to be a advocate for human rights. This manifesto will be about laws meant to restrain government or corporate power and the prevention of any one group or individual amassing to much power of any kind. It will be of how to deal with crime through changing what factors exist within society that lead young men to become criminals. It will be for social and economic equality for all people. It will be for using science to better the lives of the proletariat but also for prohibiting technologies which may be harmful to the masses. But even if such a movement where possible, its goals much be achieved slowly over decades since abrupt change is destructive.

These are all well and good, but the same (rather vague) demands have been circulated since, like, whenever. And 80-90% of this stuff is already in the program of every group left of the center left mainstream parties. I'm not sure what makes this a "new communism".

Vladimir Innit Lenin
25th March 2015, 19:28
I always find it ironic when individuals declare in some incoherent, rambling manifesto that individuals should not receive the credit for some imagined revolution.

Tim Cornelis
25th March 2015, 22:58
That's not very nice Vladimir Innit, I don't think it's incoherent or rambling. I just think OP needs a better theoretical background (by reading Marxist literature). Don't discourage him :(