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gryphus
28th February 2015, 23:21
The corporate media has a whole fabricated reality for the people to swallow up.

According to this mythology, we are always 'liberators' and our wars are only conducted for the most noble of reasons.
The western media hardly ever talks of the 152 000 dead Iraqis (documented- the number is much higher), and the mounting cases of cancer due to uranium being spread all over the country.

For the U.S. public to get an idea of the effect of our war on Iraq, a country of 30 million, this would mean that something like 9/11 would have to happen 506 times in the 12 year period since the beginning of our invasion. We've basically put Iraq through a 9/11 every 8.6 days for 12 years.

Not to mention the destruction of the infrastructure, the refugees...

But why do they hate us?

As Noam Chomsky put it: ''The U.S. government isn't really concerned with hiding the effects of its military adventures on foreigners. They know the effects. Their concern is with hiding it from the U.S. public.'' (Quoting from memory).

And meanwhile at home, we're presented with something clean; nice green screens that make it look like a video game and propaganda films like ''American Sniper'' that reinforces the idea that 'we're the good guys', no matter what is actually going on.

To even question this is treasonous.

Q
1st March 2015, 22:24
So, is there a question?

gryphus
2nd March 2015, 02:47
why not?

Danielle Ni Dhighe
3rd March 2015, 06:42
The corporate media has a whole fabricated reality for the people to swallow up.
That's called bourgeois ideology.

DOOM
3rd March 2015, 07:25
I'd say bourgeois ideology is formed subconsciously (?) by the given material conditions (capitalism, the ruling class is the bourgeoisie, thus is the ruling ideology bourgeois). There are no lizard-men fabricating bourgeois agenda or whatsoever.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
3rd March 2015, 14:18
I'd say bourgeois ideology is formed subconsciously (?) by the given material conditions (capitalism, the ruling class is the bourgeoisie, thus is the ruling ideology bourgeois). There are no lizard-men fabricating bourgeois agenda or whatsoever.

Well, the different factions of the bourgeoisie are going to consciously use the media they control to further their own agenda - cue Kuwaiti nurses - but overall, bourgeois ideology is imposed structurally, not by individuals. It is dominant not only because anyone that questions bourgeois ideology runs the risk of being punished by the state, but because, from the educational system onwards, anything outside bourgeois ideology is seen as imprudent. Bourgeois ideology literally structures the way many people think and respond. It is reproduced, not only by the media, but by workers themselves. Anything that has "...and that's why we need a mixed economy" as a punchline is a good example of this reproduction.