Mechanics Unions in US

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

What's up with this? I remember trying to research this and like I don't think there is any, why is that?

[Creative Destruction]

I imagine they would fall under the UAW. A lot of the bigger industrial unions aren't strictly craft unions, though. They kind of just accept whoever wants to join them. These mechanics were a part of the Transport Workers Union:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/mechanics-union-sues-american-airlines-1422041401

There's these folks, too:

http://www.mech701.org/

Who are a local of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Machinists_and_Aerosp ace_Workers

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Yeah idk tho and then you got UAW with an anti-Communist background. That's something I've been wondering too as well what with how it's really a big investment trade too with the tools, schools and what not

[Creative Destruction]

I think basically all the major unions in the United States are anti-communist, except maybe with the exception of the Longshoreman's Union and the IWW. That's just the general history of big labor in this country. Most of the AFL-CIO and CTWF unions come from a lineage where, back during the red scares and even through the 70s, would trip all over themselves to be more anti-communist than the others.

[Bala Perdida]

I think basically all the major unions in the United States are anti-communist, except maybe with the exception of the Longshoreman's Union and the IWW. That's just the general history of big labor in this country. Most of the AFL-CIO and CTWF unions come from a lineage where, back during the red scares and even through the 70s, would trip all over themselves to be more anti-communist than the others.Is there any actual benefits to joining the IWW? Or is it just funding random activities with the union dues? I get the whole networking thing, but other than that I'm not sure what it gets anyone, except maybe black listed.

[#FF0000]

Is there any actual benefits to joining the IWW? Or is it just funding random activities with the union dues? I get the whole networking thing, but other than that I'm not sure what it gets anyone, except maybe black listed.

They're pretty good at getting people their unpaid wages. I think anyone joining the IWW with the aim of getting something out of it, rather than with the aim of trying to build the organization is making a fundamental mistake tho.

[BIXX]

And that's why I don't wanna bother joining the iww. I don't wanna spend time people harvesting.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Is there any actual benefits to joining the IWW? Or is it just funding random activities with the union dues? I get the whole networking thing, but other than that I'm not sure what it gets anyone, except maybe black listed.

Uh there is multiple benefits to joining the IWW. Most especially because there is numerous vocations in the Americas which organization or leverage is non-existence and because virtually all unions in the US have been sucked into the system and any attempts at subtle radicalization fail. I love dem :wub:

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I think basically all the major unions in the United States are anti-communist, except maybe with the exception of the Longshoreman's Union and the IWW. That's just the general history of big labor in this country. Most of the AFL-CIO and CTWF unions come from a lineage where, back during the red scares and even through the 70s, would trip all over themselves to be more anti-communist than the others.

Yeah but there is a very long and awesome history of radical labor organization irrespective of the bigger house slave unions coming into play. Why I said that. Additionally maybe I didn't read long enough but the UAW seems like for automanufacturing workers. I mean like those dudes in garages working sorcery.

But I find this interesting insomuch as they own the tools and the means to do their vocation short of owning the actual building and facilities tho some do. From my understanding.

[Creative Destruction]

Yeah but there is a very long and awesome history of radical labor organization irrespective of the bigger house slave unions coming into play. Why I said that. Additionally maybe I didn't read long enough but the UAW seems like for automanufacturing workers. I mean like those dudes in garages working sorcery.

But I find this interesting insomuch as they own the tools and the means to do their vocation short of owning the actual building and facilities tho some do. From my understanding.

Yeah that may have something to do with it -- a lot of mechanics are sole proprietors. But there are still mechanic joints where there are workers who don't own the tools.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Yeah that may have something to do with it -- a lot of mechanics are sole proprietors. But there are still mechanic joints where there are workers who don't own the tools.

Yeah maybe if they are just starting out but even to go through trade schools, aspiring mech students are required to have a box of specific tools, boots and other things. Every shop may be different but in my experience aside from like the fuel pumps, the pits, and other stuff like that the mechs own their own stuff. I'm just trying to wrap my head around it; it's interesting.

It's kind of like chefs, I think most chefs have to own their own cutlery sets, and gear and what not but the restaurant owns the grills and fryers and shit.

Dudes eventually could have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of tools just being an average mech and having those nice 59 whatever inch standing tool boxes and tool sets and shit. Tools are bloody expensive even if you don't get bourgy Craftsmen or Snapon. Like my Kobalt 22 piece set was pretty friggin expensive. Plus, I got these boots with mad qualifications like electric hazard proof and they were like 100+ bucks too.

[Creative Destruction]

Yeah maybe if they are just starting out but even to go through trade schools, aspiring mech students are required to have a box of specific tools, boots and other things. Every shop may be different but in my experience aside from like the fuel pumps, the pits, and other stuff like that the mechs own their own stuff. I'm just trying to wrap my head around it; it's interesting.

This is about the same as any other trade discipline. If you're a welder, you have to own your own equipment, or buy it from the school and so on. What are you trying to wrap your head around, though?


Dudes eventually could have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of tools just being an average mech and having those nice 59 whatever inch standing tool boxes and tool sets and shit. Tools are bloody expensive even if you don't get bourgy Craftsmen or Snapon. Like my Kobalt 22 piece set was pretty friggin expensive. Plus, I got these boots with mad qualifications like electric hazard proof and they were like 100+ bucks too.

Right. I'm still not seeing where you're trying to go here, though. They own the tools of their trade, and are possibly portable between one shop and another, but how they get business is through the name of the shop and being in an actual shop, a lot of the times.