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Peachman2000
11th February 2015, 04:49
I was watching Michael Moore's "Capitalism: A Love Story", and towards the end they were talking about how the people had finally won because Obama was elected in 2008. I saw the enthusiasm of the people, and how everybody had hope for a better nation. Now looking seven years later I wonder, what went wrong? Obama promised to completely change the system, and make the country a better place for the people. None of this has happened. If anything we are worse off now than we were eight years ago. The United States is in near shambles. We have a near police state, and the countries becoming even less democratic than it was. We are giving our little perks every now and then, but Businesses still wield influence. We live in a plutocracy that everybody thought would end in 2008. What went wrong?

Fourth Internationalist
11th February 2015, 06:11
Please do not mind the lack of quotes. It is rather difficult putting them in a post via phone.

Nothing is fundamentally different about the United States with Barack Obama than without him. The United States is a capitalist and imperialist country, and this won't change with the election of any politician.

In every capitalist country the police exists to enforce the laws of the state, which is controlled by the ruling class. Police brutality isn't new.

I'm not aware of any recent major changes to the bourgeois democratic system that governs the Unites States. As of now, I think it is arguably more "democratic" now than it has been for most of the country's existence.

The United States as a thing in and of itself isn't in shambles. Much of the working class there certainly are very oppressed and are being screwed over again and again, however, this is not a new phenomenon in this global capitalist and imperialist system.

Barack Obama had somewhat nice sounding campaign rhetoric, but so has every other politician of any other country. So, Barack Obama didn't "fail". He ran an election campaign that got him elected as the president of the United States where he plays a vital role in running the world's largest imperialist power.

JohnnyD
11th February 2015, 16:09
Perhaps all that really went wrong from American capital s perspective really is the increasingly evident lack of a coherent program of action going forward. I agree with fourth internationist nothing has fundamentaly changed, however US imperialism has been in a strategic quagmire since at least the beginning of the Bush administration. Thats why these clown president's of the current era exist. Can anyone take seriously a society that has spawned these farcical figure heads. Bush, Clinton, Obama, these comedic appendages of capitalism in decay, remind us of the last roman emporers or the last king of france before the revolution. The American people must take the reigns of history now before these madmen lead us to oblivion.