Hey Guys--My first thread here is about Putin

[Cutter]

How come Putin is so much cooler than Obama?

[Q]

According to who?

[RedWorker]

I don't like either.

[Ilstar]

How come Putin is so much cooler than Obama?

Obama said he is a socialist. Putin acts like a national-socialist. The world tension we are seeing has a historical twist.

I have links to articles to support my argument, but I cannot show them since my post count is not 25 yet :(

[motion denied]

they both have killer haircuts

bald pride world wide

[Sewer Socialist]

It's because Obama wears dad jeans, while Putin does lots of stuff shirtless. When Putin was in the KGB, probably strangling people who wore dad jeans (possibly while shirtless) Obama was a legal professor at the University of Chicago, probably while wearing dad jeans and teaching classes to people also wearing dad jeans.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Obama said he is a socialist. Putin acts like a national-socialist.

No, and no. That's just rubbish. Both of those. Certifiable.

I think I hear the flapping of white coats? Is that the warden, over there? Yes, yes, it is, finally, the glinting silver needle to take away this pain, this anguish!

[Ilstar]

No, and no. That's just rubbish. Both of those. Certifiable.

Google it. Otherwise, provide your own definitions.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Google it. Otherwise, provide your own definitions.

Google what? Right-wing nuts think Obama is a socialist? I'm sure I'd be up to my eyeballs with The Blaze and Breitbart and whatever the fuck, all of which has the equivalent worth of dog vomit. Even if Obama said such a thing, it would mean precisely nothing, because, no doubt about it, Obama's understanding of what "socialism" is probably as warped as your own, i.e. "something something state intervention blurhgh", except not followed by some hogwash about voluntarism and the Truly Free Market.

Putin acts like any typical nationalist populist, besides.

[Palmares]

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[TheBigREDOne]

In my opinion they both look pretty Derp...

[Ilstar]

Google what? Right-wing nuts think Obama is a socialist? I'm sure I'd be up to my eyeballs with The Blaze and Breitbart and whatever the fuck, all of which has the equivalent worth of dog vomit. Even if Obama said such a thing, it would mean precisely nothing, because, no doubt about it, Obama's understanding of what "socialism" is probably as warped as your own, i.e. "something something state intervention blurhgh", except not followed by some hogwash about voluntarism and the Truly Free Market.

Putin acts like any typical nationalist populist, besides.

You still haven't provided your definition of socialism. Do you agree with Lenin's social democracy or not? In my general definition, socialism is a political system that takes complete control of economy. After FDR's New Deal and Obama's ACA, the US welfare state surely has a socialist tendency, not as badly as in the Scandinavian model, but it's getting there.

What you said about Putin doesn't really conflict with what I called him.

[Slavic]

You still haven't provided your definition of socialism. Do you agree with Lenin's social democracy or not? In my general definition, socialism is a political system that takes complete control of economy. After FDR's New Deal and Obama's ACA, the US welfare state surely has a socialist tendency, not as badly as in the Scandinavian model, but it's getting there.

What you said about Putin doesn't really conflict with what I called him.

Socialism is a society in which the workers control and manage the means of production. It is understood in terms of class, in which one's class is directly related to one's relationship with said means of production.

You can gauge if a society is socialist by observing which class has "Complete control of economy". In the USA and Russia, the working class has no control over the economy.

[Sharia Lawn]

You still haven't provided your definition of socialism. Do you agree with Lenin's social democracy or not? In my general definition, socialism is a political system that takes complete control of economy. After FDR's New Deal and Obama's ACA, the US welfare state surely has a socialist tendency, not as badly as in the Scandinavian model, but it's getting there. What you said about Putin doesn't really conflict with what I called him. You know, if you really are being honest in your other thread, and are researching this sort of thing for graduate level academic work, you probably should get some sense of what the fuck you're talking about before jumping into your research.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Maybe everyone missed this dudes blog in his signature, but he should be restricted to OI

[Lord Testicles]

Google it. Otherwise, provide your own definitions.

I google'd it and all I could conclude is that you've been pulling facts from your fetid anus.

[Palmares]

Maybe everyone missed this dudes blog in his signature, but he should be restricted to OI

http://www.revleft.com/vb/here-something-interesting-t192249/index.html

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

But my revleft emotional-economy

[Hrafn]

Hint: Putin has a cult of personality.

[Ilstar]

I google'd it and all I could conclude is that you've been pulling facts from your fetid anus.

Not if you read New York Post's "Obama admits he's a socialist" and The Guardian's "Hillary Clinton says Vladimir Putin’s Crimea occupation echoes Hitler", for some examples.


But my revleft emotional-economy

Emotional Economy is not revleft; it's a synthesis of Marxism and Objectivism, Communism and Capitalism, altogether bypassing socialism.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Not if you read New York Post's "Obama admits he's a socialist" and The Guardian's "Hillary Clinton says Vladimir Putin’s Crimea occupation echoes Hitler", for some examples.

Sounds awfully convincing. They, like you, have little understanding of what socialism means when they says something as profane as that Obama's a socialist. And how is surprised by Hillary Clinton making dumb charged statements against the opposition?


the US welfare state surely has a socialist tendency, not as badly as in the Scandinavian model, but it's getting there

ahmahgad the nightmare Scandinavian experience of social-democracy! Which is a far stretch from anything resembling socialism/communism!

[Lily Briscoe]

Ilstar should be banned for wearing that shade of blue. There is no excuse for it.

[Ilstar]

Sounds awfully convincing. They, like you, have little understanding of what socialism means when they says something as profane as that Obama's a socialist. And how is surprised by Hillary Clinton making dumb charged statements against the opposition?

ahmahgad the nightmare Scandinavian experience of social-democracy! Which is a far stretch from anything resembling socialism/communism!

If your views do not match those of most of the world, why don't you define the proletariat class in the 21st century, for starters?


Ilstar should be banned for wearing that shade of blue. There is no excuse for it.

Lol. It's a good thing that I changed it to red then.