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RedWorker
31st January 2015, 05:40
Is this very surprising?

Workers-Control-Over-Prod
31st January 2015, 06:32
Is this very surprising?

No. There has been no initiation of a social revolution in Greece as far as I know.

Atsumari
31st January 2015, 06:59
The issue was first raised by Spaniards, not the Greeks first which is saying something imo

Sentinel
31st January 2015, 07:09
Actually there are 5 women ministers in the cabinet, and 1 deputy minister (not counted as cabinet member). But out of a total 35 (+ 6 deputies), this is of course way too low for a government headed by feminist party. Moreover, it seems the cabinet has Ministers and ministers in it.

So while there are 5 women alternate ministers, cabinet members who are responsible for specific areas within departments (4 from Syriza and 1 from ANEL), these are lower in rank. None of the 15 'full' ministers, ie heads of the departments who attend weekly cabinet meetings, are women.

Perhaps this is what the OP meant? Anyway, yeah way too many men and disappointing with no women 'full' ministers. Also an embarrassment that proportionally, ANEL has appointed way more female ministers than Syriza..

Hopefully this is protested internally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Alexis_Tsipras

Tim Cornelis
31st January 2015, 14:49
Not entirely related but for some reason SYRIZA decided to give the foreign minister position to someone with far-right sympathies (outside ANEL). He has ties with Alexander Dugin, the Russian fascist professor who contrived the concept of Novorossiya in Eastern Ukraine -- the spiritual father of New Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikos_Kotzias

Per Levy
31st January 2015, 15:44
Not entirely related but for some reason SYRIZA decided to give the foreign minister position to someone with far-right sympathies (outside ANEL). He has ties with Alexander Dugin, the Russian fascist professor who contrived the concept of Novorossiya in Eastern Ukraine -- the spiritual father of New Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikos_Kotzias

here is a picture that shows both in together posing for a photo

https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/560145708700143616

so not only does syriza ally with a right-wing populist party, they also have a person who has sympathies for russian fascists as foreign minister. but i think the reason he is foreign minister is because he is into russia and i have the feeling that the syriza gouverment wants to strenghen its relation with russia.


this is of course way too low for a government headed by feminist party

syriza is a feminist party? that is kinda news to me, as long as i've known syriza i have never read anything by them that implied that they were a feminist party. i might be wrong though.


No. There has been no initiation of a social revolution in Greece as far as I know.

there also has been no social revolution anywhere else and many other gouverments have female minsters though.

Sentinel
1st February 2015, 04:56
syriza is a feminist party? that is kinda news to me, as long as i've known syriza i have never read anything by them that implied that they were a feminist party. i might be wrong though.

Unfortunately I don't have much knowledge of their specific feminist struggles, or even their programme on the issue, but I've always been under the impression that they are widely regarded as one, and their symbolism seems to suggest that.

In any case, I did some research (basically googled the issue) to see if I perhaps was wrong, but it doesn't seem that way. However perhaps 'a party that claims to uphold feminism' or something might have been a better formulation, seeing I don't know enough of the details of their commitment to these issues.


With their strong belief in the need for the radical left to collaborate, the young and old worked with the organisations with which Synaspismos had created the Greek Social Forum. This included other political organisations (Maoist and Trotskyist, for instance) and green, feminist, gay and social rights networks. They all came together to form Syriza, with its green, red and purple flag.

Link (http://links.org.au/node/2963)


Even though the Coalition struggled to navigate the fall of the USSR and decades of ideological infighting, it survived and became the main participant in Syriza, which was created in 2004 as an alliance between leftist political forces.

Today, the leader of the united party is Alexis Tsipras, and the symbol of the party is the five-pointed star, a symbol of unity, along with three flags: a red one for the classic left, a Greek one for the ecological movement and a purple one that represents other social movements that Syriza embraces, such as feminism, migrant rights and gay rights.

Link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/greece-syriza-history_n_6547798.html)

So basically they are seen as a party that embraces feminism, gay rights etc, as they contain such forces from the time when they were more of a coalition than the united party they are today. This of course rhymes badly with their choice of government coalition partner, foreign minister and policy, and the small amount of women in the cabinet - it is what makes these choices by them controversial.

Btw if anyone knows a bit more about Syrizas history with feminism, I would be most interested in reading about it.

Pancakes Rühle
5th February 2015, 16:52
The solution to patriarchy is not to have more female bourgeoisie. Why are the supposed communist on this website so preoccupied with a social democratic party, that has already allied itself with a far right, anti-immigrant, and anti-semitic party?