Greek elections

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Does anyone know of any online websites or news sites that will carry live coverage of the Greek election on Sunday? Preferably in English but any language is okay.

[The Feral Underclass]

Does anyone know of any online websites or news sites that will carry live coverage of the Greek election on Sunday? Preferably in English but any language is okay.

I'm fairly confident BBC News 24 will be, if not BBC Parliament. I distinctly remember an advert on the channel giving an evening time of when the coverage will be happening.

I hope this is the case anyway, as I want to watch it.

[The Feral Underclass]

BBC News 24 say that polls close at 5pm, first unofficial result in at 7pm and then official result at 10pm. I'm not sure if it's rolling coverage.

[Q]

Just watched a few minutes of BBC Parliament. Damn, that stuff is boring.

Anyway, I found this live feed (http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_25/01/2015_546503).

[Creative Destruction]

Just read through this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greece-elections-voters-will-choose-the-syriza-party--and-send-a-defiant-message-to-the-eu-10000776.html


Syriza may not win an absolute majority in parliament and will be reliant on smaller parties. It will also be constrained by a commitment to balanced budgets and securing a €7.2bn loan tranche, as well negotiating on the €320bn debt. But the early elections called by Mr Samaras and the likely victory of Syriza are strong pieces of evidence that the sort of reforms the EU has been trying to implement in return for its money are vastly unpopular within Greece, where they are seen as a humiliating symbol of servitude. It is also obvious that Mr Tsipras is right in saying that the Greek debt is “not just unbearable, it objectively cannot be repaid”.

Meanwhile, he has a list of reforms, such as giving free electricity to people whose power has been cut off, providing food stamps for children, healthcare to the uninsured, and some form of accommodation for the homeless, as well as raising the minimum wage from under €500 a month to €750.

This'll definitely be a test to see whether they're going to chicken out due to "international markets" and the fucking "middle-class."

[RedKobra]

Bizarrely there doesn't seem to be any dedicated coverage of it. Typical bloody bourgeois media.

[Rudolf]

Bizarrely there doesn't seem to be any dedicated coverage of it. Typical bloody bourgeois media.


There's live reporting on the BBC website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30975663

[Q]

Exit polls put Syriza between 35,5 and 39,5%, meaning 146 and 158 seats with the undemocratic 50 seat top-up. 158 obviously means a one-man show.

[jullia]

"It's an historical victory "
Nice

[Creative Destruction]

Exit polls put Syriza between 35,5 and 39,5%, meaning 146 and 158 seats with the undemocratic 50 seat top-up. 158 obviously means a one-man show.

where are you seeing the 158 seat count? everything i've read so far says 150 seats.

[Creative Destruction]

15.45 Members of anti-capitalist ANTARSYA are attacked by unknown assailants at the party's election center in Keratsini, near Piraeus.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_25/01/2015_546503

[PhoenixAsh]

Parliament has 300 seats in Greece...a majority stands at 151.

[PhoenixAsh]

Also...if that point is reached the Euro ratings will take a hit and the value of the Euro will decline dramatically. Which in turn will affect economies within Europe.

[Tim Cornelis]

A good day for accelerationism.

So I accidentally read some Daily Mail comments, some supported SYRIZA (because it may blow up the EU which their petty bourgeois hearts so desire), but others were more like 'dialectical materialism invests Europe, creating a European mega-superstate' and a 'Marxist Greece, is this what Milliband has in store for the UK'. Crazy as it is, many in the Greek conservative establishment may feel similarly, which means? (Re-)intensification of support for fascism? Increased threat of military coup as a result of intensified conflict?

[bricolage]

Crazy as it is, many in the Greek conservative establishment may feel similarly, which means? (Re-)intensification of support for fascism? Increased threat of military coup as a result of intensified conflict?
Clearly the increased support for fascism and the far right is already there (electoral performance of Golden Dawn, New Democracy likely to appoint a further right leader), what I'm less clear about is what will happen with the military. Does anyone know what the current role/status of the military in Greece is?

A lot of people I know are really excited about the result and I'm not seeking to downplay the significance of it but I guess I'm just cynical enough that I'm expecting either Syriza to backtrack on their promises or the military to smack them out of power. Time will tell.

[RedKobra]

Clearly the increased support for fascism and the far right is already there (electoral performance of Golden Dawn, New Democracy likely to appoint a further right leader), what I'm less clear about is what will happen with the military. Does anyone know what the current role/status of the military in Greece is?

A lot of people I know are really excited about the result and I'm not seeking to downplay the significance of it but I guess I'm just cynical enough that I'm expecting either Syriza to backtrack on their promises or the military to smack them out of power. Time will tell.

Not to seem complacent but I can't believe that the army would do such a thing at this stage and if they did the idea that the EU would tolerate such an abhorrent, intolerable AND blatant attack against electoral democracy seems just a tad far fetched. How bad is the EU going to look if it twiddles its thumbs while a greek general parks his cheeks on the seat of power? It would fundemantelly undermine western democracy, no? and bring an end to all pretense that things like that just don't happen in modern western capitalist democracies. To my mind it would be an absolute game changer.

[Servia]

This provides live results: http://ekloges2015.dolnet.gr/?lang=en

[bricolage]

Not to seem complacent but I can't believe that the army would do such a thing at this stage and if they did the idea that the EU would tolerate such an abhorrent, intolerable AND blatant attack against electoral democracy seems just a tad far fetched. How bad is the EU going to look if it twiddles its thumbs while a greek general parks his cheeks on the seat of power? It would fundemantelly undermine western democracy, no? and bring an end to all pretense that things like that just don't happen in modern western capitalist democracies. To my mind it would be an absolute game changer.
I think you are right that it likely won't come to that but I also think that EU has been quite happy to tolerate undemocratic measures (i.e. appointment of unelected technocrats). A military coup is a completely different kettle of fish but that doesn't mean it might not happen. And in terms of an EU response, there obviously is no EU army so it would be interesting to see what measures they would take. Like I said, I don't think this will happen but I mean we can still speculate.

[Creative Destruction]

Not to seem complacent but I can't believe that the army would do such a thing at this stage and if they did the idea that the EU would tolerate such an abhorrent, intolerable AND blatant attack against electoral democracy seems just a tad far fetched. How bad is the EU going to look if it twiddles its thumbs while a greek general parks his cheeks on the seat of power? It would fundemantelly undermine western democracy, no? and bring an end to all pretense that things like that just don't happen in modern western capitalist democracies. To my mind it would be an absolute game changer.

It was pretty recent history that Greece had a long standing military junta that was put in place to oust a communist government. I would not discount the possibility of some shit happening in Greece depending on what SYRIZA does.

[RedKobra]

It was pretty recent history that Greece had a long standing military junta that was put in place to oust a communist government. I would not discount the possibility of some shit happening in Greece depending on what SYRIZA does.

Absolutely, but that was a very different world. In 1967 there was a cold war going on, America and its allies were still in Vietnam, communism was the filthiest word you could say, Europe was divided by the Iron Curtain and there was no European Union.
Things are very different now, very different indeed. A reasonably significant European nation falling to a military junta? Almost inconceivable. Impossible, no, not quite impossible but very, very hard to imagine.

As I say if it did happen it would be a game changer, you could tear up your plans for the future, the world would be on a very different course to the one we were expecting.

[Futility Personified]

It's hard to see a military coup happening, but if it did, well hell, syriza's radical chops would be beefier.

A good result so far though. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. I think those who are heralding it as the end of neoliberalism are extremely optimistic though.

[bricolage]

What's this SYRIZA-ANEL talk I'm hearing?

[RedKobra]

What's this SYRIZA-ANEL talk I'm hearing?

Very hard to picture isn't it.