Your own political program

[RedKobra]

Assuming you aren't currently a paid up member of a political party...

If you had the resources and the backing to lead the formation of a new party and develop its program what would that program look like? Don't just say you would gain mass support because...well, (a) who wouldn't & (b) that's cheating. Imagine the world is exactly is it is right now but there are comrades with the resources to get this thing off the ground, what do your aims an objectives look like and what would be your party's strategy for growth?

[Creative Destruction]

I don't think it's the task of a revolutionary group to "gain mass support" -- as in, it becomes the mass organization. There is going to be an independent mass organization, separate from revolutionaries. The task of a revolutionary organization is to feed ideas into the movement and try to pull it toward a revolutionary alternative, not into a political party. So, it would be that. It kind of hinges on the spark of a mass movement starting, though.

This could've been the Occupy movement, but there were so many organizational fuck ups with that movement that it was impossible to get anything actually done. David Graeber and the other "live as if you were free" anarchists really screwed the pooch on this one, with their resistance to forming any sort of program that characterized Occupy. They really hindered anything getting done.

[RedKobra]

I don't think it's the task of a revolutionary group to "gain mass support" -- as in, it becomes the mass organization. There is going to be an independent mass organization, separate from revolutionaries. The task of a revolutionary organization is to feed ideas into the movement and try to pull it toward a revolutionary alternative, not into a political party. So, it would be that. It kind of hinges on the spark of a mass movement starting, though.

This could've been the Occupy movement, but there were so many organizational fuck ups with that movement that it was impossible to get anything actually done. David Graeber and the other "live as if you were free" anarchists really screwed the pooch on this one, with their resistance to forming any sort of program that characterized Occupy. They really hindered anything getting done.

I would argue that's always the risk with horizontal organisation. Not that its not a fine ideal but in practice I think what usually happens is exactly what I would expect to usually happen.

[ckaihatsu]

If you had the resources and the backing to lead the formation of a new party


Why, whadda ya got?


= D

[RedKobra]

Why, whadda ya got?


= D

*checks pockets*

A Library card and a crinkly tissue.

[ckaihatsu]

*checks pockets*

A Library card and a crinkly tissue.


It's MacGyver time -- !


-- Or --


We'll win noses and minds -- !


-- Or --


Sorry, I don't even turn on the screen for under $250K.

[The Idler]

With resources I would contest every democratic election where the ruling-class rule with consent granted by the working-class. This would be accompanied by (before election period) a mass campaign in mainstream media. Parades and Fete Lutte Ouvriere clone events across European countries would be arranged too. Copy their example of buying up a huge tract of land. Make lots of big budget films, screen them at film festivals. Forget leafleting. Start a radio or television station. Buy or launch a newspaper.

[ckaihatsu]

I thought a political program is supposed to look like this.... (!)


http://www.marxist.com/world-perspectives-2014.htm