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SunAndWaves
11th January 2015, 22:49
Just curious :grin:

VCrakeV
11th January 2015, 23:35
I only have my high school diploma, but I might go to university for philosophy in September. My counsellor thinks I might be autistic, and if I am, the government Would help pay tor my schooling. I hope my screening turns out positive...

Rosa Partizan
11th January 2015, 23:47
will be having an M.A. (one major/two minors) by the end of the year.

Ro Laren
12th January 2015, 00:02
I have a bachelor's degree. Note sure if I'm ever going to continue on to something higher.

BITW434
12th January 2015, 00:09
In my final year of school, and if I can get my arse in gear I'll be soon off to university to do Eastern European Studies, which would be pretty cool *fingers crossed* *touch wood*

Creative Destruction
12th January 2015, 00:26
I'm still in school. Will be getting my Associates at the end of this year, and transferring to university to study Meteorology through the doctorate level.

motion denied
12th January 2015, 00:44
University drop out.

Also, no idea of what half of the alternatives mean.

The Intransigent Faction
12th January 2015, 01:07
Bachelor's Degree. It looks like I'll have a college diploma in a couple of years (journalism) and who knows, perhaps a Master's at some to-be-determined point.

G4b3n
12th January 2015, 08:10
Currently studying to get my bachelor's in history.

Blake's Baby
12th January 2015, 09:14
University drop out.

Also, no idea of what half of the alternatives mean.

I think Pilantra makes a good point. Many of those alternatives/terms I suspect only have meaning in the US educational system.

RedKobra
12th January 2015, 09:17
English Secondary school ed + 1 yr of college (Music). Going to start a distance university degree in Politics & Philosophy very soon.

Quail
12th January 2015, 09:35
I handed in my dissertation for my MSc Mathematics in November. I haven't actually been awarded the degree yet, but I voted Master's degree anyway because I've done all the work.

Man, I miss studying. I'm hoping to work and save up some money now and go back to education when my son's a bit older and I can afford to fund most of it myself.

Bala Perdida
12th January 2015, 09:42
High school graduate. Currently trying to get certification for Electrician

Devrim
12th January 2015, 09:56
I left school at 15.

Devrim

Dialectical Wizard
12th January 2015, 10:45
I'm a high school dropout.

Sasha
12th January 2015, 12:23
i have a diploma in carpentry (i guess thats an associate degree over where you are?) and several years off a bachelor in theatre and education but didnt finish that one. also a bunch off diploma's in stuff like welding, first aid, fire safety etc etc

Ceallach_the_Witch
12th January 2015, 12:30
BA history, starting a masters this September hopefully and ultimately I want to do a doctorate

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
12th January 2015, 12:59
I have a GED

The Feral Underclass
12th January 2015, 13:18
I have a BA in creative and professional writing and a Post-Graduate Diploma (PGDip) in screen arts (a PGDip is basically the equivalent of two-thirds of a masters). I'm now working towards an MSc in adult nursing.

I quite like the idea of doing a doctorate, but it's so many words.

The Feral Underclass
12th January 2015, 13:20
I think Pilantra makes a good point. Many of those alternatives/terms I suspect only have meaning in the US educational system.

And also they don't have PGCert and PGDip qualifications in the US, so they're missed out.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 15:31
I have a BA in creative and professional writing and a Post-Graduate Diploma (PGDip) in screen arts (a PGDip is basically the equivalent of two-thirds of a masters). I'm now working towards an MSc in adult nursing.

I quite like the idea of doing a doctorate, but it's so many words.

what does adult nursing mean? Could everyone also write what their graduate subjects are?

My major is American Studies and my minors are Spanish linguistics and political science. Which basically means that I'll have to marry a rich guy as long as I'm still somewhat young and pretty.

(handsome, rich guys --> drop me a PM)

The Feral Underclass
12th January 2015, 15:56
Adult nursing is an overall speciality of nursing as opposed to paediatric nursing. In the UK it's usually broken down into Adult nursing (which is general care), paediatric nursing and then mental health nursing as overall disciplines, and then you can sub-specialise.

motion denied
12th January 2015, 16:31
I was social science bloke leaning towards political science.

Counterculturalist
12th January 2015, 17:37
Bachelor's degree in English literature. Working on a master's in library science with a specialization in archives. The actual name of the degree is "master of information," but I refuse as much as possible to engage in the corporate jargon that has infested the discipline that manifests itself in discourse about "information professionals" and "information consumers." I just want to work with books and papers.

Atsumari
12th January 2015, 19:09
Went to a shitty college for one year, Hampshire, Reed, Temple, and PSU accepted my transfer but I could not afford any of those so I dropped out and began working in the kitchen.

Ceallach_the_Witch
12th January 2015, 19:22
'master of information' sounds like the name of a villain in a really kitschy high-fantasy setting. Do you get a robe and a staff when you graduate?

Counterculturalist
12th January 2015, 19:48
'master of information' sounds like the name of a villain in a really kitschy high-fantasy setting. Do you get a robe and a staff when you graduate?

It's essentially a title for people who are ashamed to call themselves librarians. To me it means giving in to the idea that libraries have no use in a technology-oriented consumer society. Thus, the stodgy and feminized profession of "librarian" must be replaced by the up-to-date tech-savvy vocation of the "information professional." The social space of the library, with its myriad of public services, can be replaced by the solitary "information manager" who helps megacorporations deal with their bureaucratic by-products. An idiotic strategy, since huge corporations are bound to figure out that the "information manager" is one less salary they need to pay. End of rant.

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 20:19
I did a PhD in modern history.

I'm thinking about doing a PGCE.



I quite like the idea of doing a doctorate, but it's so many words.

When it comes to the word count, the problem isn't coming up with enough of them but keeping the dissertation under the limit.

bricolage
12th January 2015, 20:34
It's essentially a title for people who are ashamed to call themselves librarians. To me it means giving in to the idea that libraries have no use in a technology-oriented consumer society. Thus, the stodgy and feminized profession of "librarian" must be replaced by the up-to-date tech-savvy vocation of the "information professional." The social space of the library, with its myriad of public services, can be replaced by the solitary "information manager" who helps megacorporations deal with their bureaucratic by-products. An idiotic strategy, since huge corporations are bound to figure out that the "information manager" is one less salary they need to pay. End of rant.
Where I used to live they rebranded all the libraries as 'Idea Stores' - I don't think a lot of them have any books now.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 20:41
I really, really couldn't do a PhD. The professor that supervises my master's thesis saw my exposé and asked if I would be interested in elaborating on that, since no one has written about it yet, at least not from this methodical point of view, and I said politely that I would consider it, but hell no. I don't feel like I'm a theoretical person. I like to read and even to write, but when it comes down to being forced to write, I feel some kind of repulsion and I don't wanna spend another 3-4 years writing. Ugh.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
12th January 2015, 20:50
Master's degree (mag. phys.), a year into my doctoral studies.


Man, I miss studying. I'm hoping to work and save up some money now and go back to education when my son's a bit older and I can afford to fund most of it myself.

I was going to make the joke about you being an alien, but, come to think of it, sod it: I'm the alien. My early life is probably just a bad cover story; I'm actually a refugee from the planet Workshy... on. Workshyon. Yes.

Slavic
12th January 2015, 22:06
B.S. in Biochemistry & Molecular Biology with a minor in Philosophy.

I also have an Associates degree from the Air force as a Munitions Technician if that counts for anything.

Lily Briscoe
12th January 2015, 22:08
High school lol

The Feral Underclass
12th January 2015, 22:08
What's an associates degree?

Slavic
12th January 2015, 22:15
What's an associates degree?

A two year college degree in the US.

A bachelors is a four year college degree.

My associates from the Air Force is just an amalgamation of shit that they assign a credit to.

Bootcamp 4 credits
Tech School 8 credits
Miscellaneous crap throughout the years credits etc.
Its basically worthless outside of the military. It serves as a way for enlisted personnel to become officers which requires a bachelors degree.

human strike
12th January 2015, 22:19
BA International History with International Politics. Reconsidering attempting an MA, but probably won't.

Hermes
12th January 2015, 22:34
Originally misread the poll. Put Bachelors, but I'm still in college trying to earn it, in History and Sociology, hopefully also in English Literature, but I'm not sure I'll be able to get the requirements done in the time I have left.

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 22:35
I really, really couldn't do a PhD. The professor that supervises my master's thesis saw my exposé and asked if I would be interested in elaborating on that, since no one has written about it yet, at least not from this methodical point of view, and I said politely that I would consider it, but hell no. I don't feel like I'm a theoretical person. I like to read and even to write, but when it comes down to being forced to write, I feel some kind of repulsion and I don't wanna spend another 3-4 years writing. Ugh.

A PhD doesn't actually involve 3-4 years writing. It's a start stop process and most of the writing is done in the final 6-9 months. You go off and do some reading around the topic at the begninning, and then write that up. You then go off in fits and starts doing your research, and writing that up for the next couple of years, and then you have a mass of material which you then convert into something resembling coherence. Basically imagine your Master's project (presumably done over a few months) and then times by five. It took me three and a half years to do mine, but if I'd been more organised and far less lazy, I could have done it in about two and a half if not less.

Slavic
12th January 2015, 22:41
A PhD doesn't actually involve 3-4 years writing. It's a start stop process and most of the writing is done in the final 6-9 months. You go off and do some reading around the topic at the begninning, and then write that up. You then go off in fits and starts doing your research, and writing that up for the next couple of years, and then you have a mass of material which you then convert into something resembling coherence. Basically imagine your Master's project (presumably done over a few months) and then times by five. It took me three and a half years to do mine, but if I'd been more organised and far less lazy, I could have done it in about two and a half if not less.

2 and a half years to complete your PHD??? What the fuck.

Are you some kind of Elf with a +3 Willpower cloak or some shit.

The Feral Underclass
12th January 2015, 22:43
PhDs in the US seem to typically take about 6 years+, but in the UK they're just 3 years.

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 22:55
2 and a half years to complete your PHD??? What the fuck.

Are you some kind of Elf with a +3 Willpower cloak or some shit.

No, that's why it took me three and a half years. ;)

I'm saying that if I were less lazy (and the following didn't exist: A. alcohol, B. box sets/movies/fiction, C. the internet, D. the pursuit of romantic attachment, E. video games, F. the process of lying in bed thinking about all the work I could have been doing as opposed to actually doing it), then I could have done it in less than two and a half years.

In fact, far far less.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 22:59
A PhD doesn't actually involve 3-4 years writing. It's a start stop process and most of the writing is done in the final 6-9 months. You go off and do some reading around the topic at the begninning, and then write that up. You then go off in fits and starts doing your research, and writing that up for the next couple of years, and then you have a mass of material which you then convert into something resembling coherence. Basically imagine your Master's project (presumably done over a few months) and then times by five. It took me three and a half years to do mine, but if I'd been more organised and far less lazy, I could have done it in about two and a half if not less.

I was a bit neglectful in phrasing that sentence. I know it's not only writing, I mean that whole process of working acedemically. You see, I don't like working precisely, so I'll take that master's and get the fuck out to earn money. That whole academic system in Germany is aweful and even worse paid. Not gonna compete with 20 people for one semester lectureship that gets me 800 bucks or so. Fuck this, srsly.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:00
the Master's project takes me a year, btw. Half a year for the exams and the other half for the thesis.

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 23:02
PhDs in the US seem to typically take about 6 years+, but in the UK they're just 3 years.

And that is because US PhD's have a rather pointless taught element (complete with exams, from what I can gather) and PhD students are utilised as incredibly exploitative cheap labour and milked for every ounce of teaching, marking, administrative work, and tech work that the university can squeeze from them. The result being that they have, in effect, full time jobs for tiny incomes and do all of their actual research and writing in their holiday / free time.

As I understand it, this comic strip is not entirely inaccurate:

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive/phd1118.gif

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:02
PhDs in the US seem to typically take about 6 years+, but in the UK they're just 3 years.

yes. I hooked up with a lecturer from Yale once and he told me he had needed 6 years for his PhD and I almost couldn't believe it, but he said he wasn't being lazy or so, it's just completely normal there.

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 23:15
the Master's project takes me a year, btw. Half a year for the exams and the other half for the thesis.

Exactly: .5 years * 5 (assuming a 20,000 word project) + .5 years (for arsing around and research training) = 2.5 years.

Forget all that exam / taught element nonsense. The only exam I had for my PhD was being hauled in front three academics for an hour to justify A. why I can't spell, and B. why I bothered doing the research in the first place. Which, I must have answered to their satisfaction but neither of which I can address to my own satisfaction now.

That said, I'm not sure which is worse. Having to go through a taught element of a PhD or the UK system where you very often turn up, are left on your own, and expected to report back every six months with evidence of "progress".

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 23:22
yes. I hooked up with a lecturer from Yale once and he told me he had needed 6 years for his PhD and I almost couldn't believe it, but he said he wasn't being lazy or so, it's just completely normal there.

As I said, the US system is hugely exploitative. The universities milk you as a source of cheap labour for years. They do that in every other system as well, but just not as unscrupulously.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:28
And that is because US PhD's have a rather pointless taught element (complete with exams, from what I can gather) and PhD students are utilised as incredibly exploitative cheap labour and milked for every ounce of teaching, marking, administrative work, and tech work that the university can squeeze from them. The result being that they have, in effect, full time jobs for tiny incomes and do all of their actual research and writing in their holiday / free time.

As I understand it, this comic strip is not entirely inaccurate:

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive/phd1118.gif

oh you did your PhD in Germany? :laugh:

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 23:29
I was a bit neglectful in phrasing that sentence. I know it's not only writing, I mean that whole process of working acedemically. You see, I don't like working precisely, so I'll take that master's and get the fuck out to earn money. That whole academic system in Germany is aweful and even worse paid. Not gonna compete with 20 people for one semester lectureship that gets me 800 bucks or so. Fuck this, srsly.

This is all true, though I'd suggest that a 1:20 ratio for post-doc positions is actually rosey in its outlook. The last post-doc I applied for (admitedly a research post) had well over 300 applicants.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:30
I think that PhD students are either incredibly passionate or incredibly stupid, considering all that effort they put in and what they get back.

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 23:33
oh you did your PhD in Germany? :laugh:

Ha, no. I did mine in Britain. I was commenting on what friends from US PhD programmes have told me. Apparently the German system is pretty bad, but the US is renounded for stretching what should take a few years into all of ones 20s and a good chunk your 30s. I was pretty fortunate in the UK, I submitted by the age of 26 and had finished my corrections a few days after my 27th birthday.


I think that PhD students are either incredibly passionate or incredibly stupid, considering all that effort they put in and what they get back.

Speaking from experience, I'd suggest that it is a combination of both and then a lot of naivity (I thought I could rise out the recession in a PhD programme (Ha!)) thrown in for good measure. In my defence, doing a PhD was much easier than actually getting a real job.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:34
This is all true, though I'd suggest that a 1:20 ratio for post-doc positions is actually rosey in its outlook. The last post-doc I applied for (admitedly a research post) had well over 300 applicants.

I don't know the actual numbers, this was just a random guess, but you get the point anyway :) I mean, really, working academically is incredibly ungrateful. They will squeeze your brain and leave you back exhausted. A lot of my friends do that PhD stuff, I have some very academic environment and in this environment, an M.A. is only average, but to me, it's absolutely enough. I prefer being exploited by an ordinary employer and at least get better paid and not have to worry how to pay rent, insurance and food.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
12th January 2015, 23:36
I think that PhD students are either incredibly passionate or incredibly stupid, considering all that effort they put in and what they get back.

The second one.

Definitely.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:41
The second one.

Definitely.

blame Croatia, c'mon, they suck at everything. Don't even wanna imagine studying there.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
12th January 2015, 23:45
blame Croatia, c'mon, they suck at everything. Don't even wanna imagine studying there.

I would have more sympathy for this viewpoint if I didn't just spend around two weeks in Germany, on a study trip, well, vomiting up my stomach lining I imagine, because the entire department had some sort of Death Plague.

Invader Zim
12th January 2015, 23:47
The second one.

Definitely.

It depends on the context. Academically, you have to be pretty sharp to do one. people who aren't and try invariably regret it. But there is a certain truth to the fact that it doesn't 'get' you anywhere and requires a certain masochistic acceptance of poverty, dependence issues (most of the PhD students I know could probably stop drinking... maybe), and a few mental health issues, and demands the spilling of a lot of blood, sweat and tears.

Most are all pretty neurotic in their way, if not when they started certainly by completition... if they get that far.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:50
oh yeah, this is something else that I noticed: People with high education are depressive as fuck. At least those that I know and that I hear about.

Rosa Partizan
12th January 2015, 23:52
I mean, sometimes I would be having lunch with my friends and they be like "so who's the best therapist in town? Which kind of therapy is the best?" etc. These are completely ordinary topics among academics here.

Invader Zim
13th January 2015, 00:03
I mean, sometimes I would be having lunch with my friends and they be like "so who's the best therapist in town? Which kind of therapy is the best?" etc. These are completely ordinary topics among academics here.

I found that a series of short and emotionally unfulfilling relationships primarily revolving around fleeting casual sexual encounters, booze, occassional binging on other substances, a generally unhealthy lifestyle, and the prospect of resolving deap-seated childhood inadequacy issues through massive over-compensation on studenthood's most arduous ego-building excerise were sufficient without going that extra mile and getting a shrink.

Rosa Partizan
13th January 2015, 00:09
I found that a series of short and emotionally unfulfilling relationships primarily built on casual sexual encounters, booze, occassional binging on other substances, a generally unhealthy lifestyle, and the prospect of resolving deap-seated childhood inadequacy issues through massive over-compensation on studenthood's most arduous ego-building excerise were sufficient without going that extra mile and getting a shrink.

they're all, let's say, too reasonable for that. They're not those eccentric types that live a life full of extreme ups and downs. And most of them are in long-term monogamous relationships. I mean, I'm in a surrounding where I am one of the more eccentric persons, and this says it all, because I'm boring as hell. I somehow think that not thinking everything through keeps me sane.

cyu
13th January 2015, 01:02
What's left of society when the type who stick their necks out get their heads chopped off:

http://www.alternet.org/economy/college-professor-has-mastersand-living-poverty

though she's taught four classes a year here for the past five years. She doesn't have a phone extension to her name, never mind an office.

The mother of a disabled eight-year-old boy. electrical tape is wrapped around the left temple of her glasses; they broke a few months ago, and she can't afford a new pair. a black vest (from a thrift store, she'll tell me later), jeans (also thrift).

An adjunct professor, she earns $4,350 a class, never more than $24,000 a year. At the moment, she has $55 in the bank and $3,000 in credit card debt. She is a month behind on the $975 rent for a two-bedroom house next to railroad tracks, where every 20 minutes a train screeches by. she must rely on food stamps to feed herself and her son. because her job doesn't offer health insurance, they're both enrolled in Medicaid, the state and federal health-care program for the poor.

"I'm a little bourgeois. I thought at 35, I'd have clothes without holes in them and money in the bank, but I shop at Goodwill exclusively."

The number of people with graduate degrees receiving food assistance or other forms of federal aid nearly tripled between 2007 and 2010. 28 percent of food-stamp households were headed by a person with at least some college education in 2013, compared with 8 percent in 1980.

"Nobody knows or cares that I have a PhD, living in the trailer park," says a former linguistics adjunct and mother of one child, who was on welfare and food stamps.

Thomas teaches between four and six classes a semester, earning between $1,500 and $3,087 per class. His paychecks arrive a month after each semester begins, he says, and during those four weeks it's macaroni and cheese and baked potatoes every night for his two daughters. "Sorry I can't afford to buy you anything, even an ice cream." Though he has been moonlighting for his father in construction, money remains tight. "I'd love to get my daughter music lessons—she's talented. But right now I don't have the resources to take advantage of her ability."

during Loudon's collegiate era at least 75 percent of professors were tenured or tenure-track (a status that includes health benefits), while the exact reverse is true today: 75 percent are adjuncts or part-timers.

already stretched thin working and caring for her son, says she struggles to find time to send out her résumé or get additional training, the latter of which isn't free, of course. She has thought about supplementing her income with some kind of retail job, but Finn's child-care costs would eat up her paycheck. she's been looking into work as a campus union organizer, to capitalize on her interest in improving adjuncts' lot, but so far that hasn't really panned out either.

Finn must have expensive almond and rice milk—he's lactose intolerant—but then Bolin is on the hunt for the 59-cent-per-pound giant bag of chicken legs, 49-cent bag of carrots, and forget about buying anything other than the absolute cheapest ground beef. "I read blogs about people wasting $20 on frivolous things like a photo booth or fancy cheese," she says. "I'll never do that."

when I take her out to a bar, where she finds relief in the form of plentiful margaritas. She's self-medicating, she says; other times, she uses Xanax for anxiety. She also takes a daily antidepressant.

She stops in a feminist bookstore, wishing she could spring for a book on sex and feminism, or a new collection of essays on living in the Internet age.

Diirez
13th January 2015, 01:36
I go to a pretty rich white kid extremely politically far right high school. I'm on my last year and I will be going to college for Premedical and health sciences with hopes of being a doctor.
But who knows where I'll end up, Che Guevara wanted to be a doctor too but he ended up a revolutionary.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
13th January 2015, 01:36
Some high school, with a General Educational Development certificate.

For those who don't know what a GED is, it's "a group of four subject tests which, when passed, certify that the test taker has high school-level academic skills...[giving] those who did not complete high school the opportunity to earn their high school equivalency credential."

consuming negativity
13th January 2015, 02:06
the best thing to do would be stop putting every fucking article behind a 50 dollar paywall so you can't read it unless you went to a college that subscribes to that particular journal.

i've thought about going back for my masters, but honestly, education is really for the sake of it and not so much to get a job unless you want to be a professor or a doctor/scientist.

it's still something i want to do but it's not an immediate priority. maybe in a couple years, though...

Blake's Baby
13th January 2015, 09:51
Some high school, with a General Educational Development certificate.

For those who don't know what a GED is, it's "a group of four subject tests which, when passed, certify that the test taker has high school-level academic skills...[giving] those who did not complete high school the opportunity to earn their high school equivalency credential."

But without knowing really what 'High School' is (up to 16? Up to 18? Some other age?) or what 'High School Equivalency' is, as not everywhere are you expected to 'graduate' High School (given that 'High School' is also undefined as I mentioned), that's not really a lot of help.

In the UK England & Wales have one system for school 16-18 - you do 3 subjects - whereas Scotland has a different system where you do 5 in less detail. So a 'GED' is pretty meaningless... a thing, that is equivalent to two other things we don't know about, is still an undefined thing.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
13th January 2015, 10:10
But without knowing really what 'High School' is (up to 16? Up to 18? Some other age?) or what 'High School Equivalency' is, as not everywhere are you expected to 'graduate' High School (given that 'High School' is also undefined as I mentioned), that's not really a lot of help.

"Students will generally graduate from high school in the year of their 18th birthday...As a practical matter, while laws in most states mandate school attendance at least until graduation or age 16, many require attendance until age 17 or 18 (unless the student earns a diploma earlier, usually around age 16)...On average, 71% of American students graduate from high school...A high school diploma or GED certificate is usually required for entrance into a two or four-year college or university and to other post-secondary education programs."

So a GED certifies that one has high school-level academic skills, but "the GED certification itself (i.e., without further post-secondary education or training) does not create the same labor market opportunities available to traditional high school graduates."

Quotes from Wikipedia.

Hrafn
13th January 2015, 10:50
Currently in university. A year and a half until my Bachelor's.

Tim Redd
14th January 2015, 02:23
So a GED certifies that one has high school-level academic skills, but "the GED certification itself (i.e., without further post-secondary education or training) does not create the same labor market opportunities available to traditional high school graduates."

From everything I observed I think in U.S. the GED is accepted as if one graduated from traditional high school.

RA89
14th January 2015, 03:11
LLB Law Degree

Haven't done anything with it and don't intend to (how my parents love that :lol: )

Tim Redd
14th January 2015, 23:49
LLB Law Degree

Haven't done anything with it and don't intend to (how my parents love that :lol: )

How about doing legal work that assists, advances the revolutionary struggle. While the struggle is mainly about the masses in their millions being in revolutionary action, we could also benefit from lawyers who work in the legal system for the revolution.

bricolage
15th January 2015, 03:34
Not the just the revolution, what about legal stuff for migrants facing deportation, workers facing eviction or being sacked, people wrongful incarcerated? I think there's a bunch of really good legal work that can be done.

Thirsty Crow
15th January 2015, 04:47
will be having an M.A. (one major/two minors) by the end of the year.
The same, hopefully. Though that bachelor's is here to stay.

Blake's Baby
15th January 2015, 17:40
Will (I hope) have my Masters in 6 months. But I'm not on a course with majors/minors, I just write a 30,000 word thesis at the end. In fact, I'm supposed to be working on it right now.

Rudolf
15th January 2015, 18:43
Highest education level for me is A-levels (ages 16-18, non-compulsory). I've been thinking of starting a degree on the open university at some point but need to sort my finances out first.

Quail
15th January 2015, 20:27
Will (I hope) have my Masters in 6 months. But I'm not on a course with majors/minors, I just write a 30,000 word thesis at the end. In fact, I'm supposed to be working on it right now.

30k words sounds like a lot. I don't know how many words my thesis was in the end. At the uni I went to, mathematicians don't get a word count, we just had to do somewhere between 40 and 60 latex pages.

Invader Zim
16th January 2015, 01:16
the best thing to do would be stop putting every fucking article behind a 50 dollar paywall so you can't read it unless you went to a college that subscribes to that particular journal.


This is actually not the most pernicious element of academic publisher racket. The worst thing about it is that it is crippling academic institutions, massively driving up the cost of tuition and all the while reducing the quality of that tuition.

Don't Swallow The Cap
16th January 2015, 18:09
I was just shy of receiving my Associates in Philosophy when I dropped out.
I've since gone back to work on my EMT certifications with the plan of earning a Bachelors in fire science afterwords.

Lily Briscoe
16th January 2015, 20:30
I've since gone back to work on my EMT certifications

I've thought about doing this. It's one of the few jobs where I'm like 'hey, I would be good at that'. You don't actually need to get an Associates to be an EMT, right?

Redistribute the Rep
16th January 2015, 20:40
I'm studying to be an engineer, why are there so few stem people here?

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
16th January 2015, 20:47
I'm studying to be an engineer, why are there so few stem people here?

What kind of engineering? I'm interested in environmental engineering, but I have a long way to go so I really have no idea where I'll end up.

Redistribute the Rep
16th January 2015, 21:19
Not sure yet, might be an electrical engineer like my dad or chemical.

I like to invent little things around the house for myself. Or at least make plans to but then never get around to carrying them out...

RA89
16th January 2015, 22:28
How about doing legal work that assists, advances the revolutionary struggle. While the struggle is mainly about the masses in their millions being in revolutionary action, we could also benefit from lawyers who work in the legal system for the revolution.

Not sure I would want to (or could) get involved for a few reasons.

Firstly I would need to do another course to actually be able to practice law, I'm not big on studying, it literally took everything from me to get a decent degree I don't think I could do it again.

Secondly around here (UK) unless you got a top degree from a top uni (I got a 2:1 which is pretty decent but the Uni I got it from isn't that reputable) it's very hard to get into the legal field, otherwise you better have the connects (nepotism reigns supreme) and I have none.

Think I'd be happier doing a job where I'm working minimal hours with more free time tbh. Though if anyone runs a legal firm in London and wants a commie worker let me know :grin:

Brosa Luxemburg
16th January 2015, 22:40
Junior at a university getting a degree in history. This might be changing. If with the degree I can't teach in prison or juvie (which might be the case) then i'm changing my major and if I decide that teaching in prison and juvie would force me to conform to what the administration wants me to teach and relate to the prisoners (most likely the case) then i'm dropping out because the university is where rich white kids go to get drunk on daddy's dime before they get their nice professional business jobs and screw people over like daddy did. From someone coming from a more working class background, it's very alienating. I've met more stupid people here than any other place in my life, and this is supposed to be a "bastion of knowledge." Also, all power to the university and high school drop outs here.

Stephen
26th January 2015, 10:18
I left school in the United Kingdom without a single pass grade in my exams and have done mainly unskilled manual work since leaving school. Most of my learning has been of the autodidactic kind since school (book-learning, that is), although I would like to attend a university at some point in the future.

nicholas
31st January 2015, 11:19
I'm still in school. Will be getting my Associates at the end of this year, and transferring to university to study Meteorology through the doctorate level.
Good luck, buddy