Revolutionary Communist Party and NYPD protests

[RedMaterialist]

Recently the Bob Avakian group, RevCom, was reported as having supplied some posters to people protesting the NYPD killing of Eric Garner. Some of the signs had "revcom.com" printed on them.

Naturally this attracted the attention of the reactionaries at Fox News. Regardless of what one thinks about Avakian (he appears to me to be slightly psychotic) or his 'party' (which is probably about 75% infiltrated and funded by the FBI), it seems to me that communist and socialist groups, despite their tendential and sectarian hatred for each other, could at least agree to demonstrate publicly for the victims of the NYPD.

Why has the revolutionary left allowed itself to become so marginalized even in places as "liberal" as New York city? I live in one of the most reactionary and racist parts of the US and the marginalization of the left here usually takes the form of tire cutting, gun shots through windshields, cross burning, or worse. One would think that in New York you could find a few hundred leftists to protest something.

How is it that Rosa Luxembourg was a well known European socialist revolutionary and now in the U.S. there is no one even remotely as public a revolutionary leader? Because of her murder, Stalin's legacy, anti-communism of the 50's?

Or maybe we live in non-revolutionary times when decades go by and nothing happens.

[Tim Cornelis]

>we live in non-revolutionary times when decades go by and nothing happens.

[Mass Grave Aesthetics]

Naturally this attracted the attention of the reactionaries at Fox News. Regardless of what one thinks about Avakian (he appears to me to be slightly psychotic) or his 'party' (which is probably about 75% infiltrated and funded by the FBI), it seems to me that communist and socialist groups, despite their tendential and sectarian hatred for each other, could at least agree to demonstrate publicly for the victims of the NYPD.
For sure, one would think so.


>we live in non-revolutionary times when decades go by and nothing happens.
indeed, but that might change fast when we least expect it.

[John Nada]

Why has the revolutionary left allowed itself to become so marginalized even in places as "liberal" as New York city? I live in one of the most reactionary and racist parts of the US and the marginalization of the left here usually takes the form of tire cutting, gun shots through windshields, cross burning, or worse. One would think that in New York you could find a few hundred leftists to protest something.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO The left still hasn't recovered since.:( And there's a difference between leftists who'd like a revolution some time in the distant future, and revolutionary left. Plenty of the former, not much of the latter.

I think it's a mistake to think of the "liberal" parts of the US as safe bases and the conservative parts as hostile territory. A lot of those liberal cities are some of the most racists parts of the US, and they have well-funded police forces to back it up. New York might have more people for a slightly nicer capitalism, but also a lot of reactionaries. It's the home of Wall Street for fuck sakes! On the other hand, deep in enemy territory there's a lot of leftist like yourself who feel like the only rational person, there's oppressed minorities, the poor and there's actually a lot of people(possibly the majority) who don't care either way but could be sympathetic if pushed.

Think about it, liberals are failing these progressive and oppressed people in these areas. The "safe districts" for conservatives provide just as much opportunity to win over a progressive minority as the "safe districts" for liberals, possible even more. This attitude that you got to win NY, LA and Chicago, and everywhere else is hopeless, is ceding most of the people to the enemy. Shit like this is why small towns like Ferguson get ignored by the left until it pops up on the MSM.
How is it that Rosa Luxembourg was a well known European socialist revolutionary and now in the U.S. there is no one even remotely as public a revolutionary leader? Because of her murder, Stalin's legacy, anti-communism of the 50's?Rosa Luxembourg deserved her fame. She was a brilliant theorists and she put in work!Luxembourg was working under conditions way worse than most on here. She was leading revolutionaries in occupied Poland, a colony of the czar. Police, reactionaries and snitches were constantly trying to subvert the Polish revolutionary movement. She was organizing in Czarist Russia, the "Prison House of Nations". You can't get anymore hardcore than that. Respect is earned. Something that the US left needs to learn.

On Stalin and anti-communist propaganda, the bourgeoisie have always demonized socialism since even before Marx. Shit, in Marx's day newspapers were accusing him of eating babies!:lol: Stalin could've not killed a fly and made the USSR heaven on earth, or someone else could've ruled the USSR, and it still would've been demonized. Haters going to hate, no matter what.
Or maybe we live in non-revolutionary times when decades go by and nothing happens.Plenty of stuff happens, but the waiting game makes it all non-revolutionary. Revolutions are made, not bestowed by the gods.

[Tim Redd]

...Naturally this attracted the attention of the reactionaries at Fox News. Regardless of what one thinks about Avakian (he appears to me to be slightly psychotic)...

He is unquestionably psycho/socio-pathic. Someone like him who claims the ideas as his that are actually from others is psycho/socio-pathic.

Avakian claims that he came up with the idea that local/national affairs are mainly driven by world affairs. Actually the idea was already present in the writing of Marx.

Avakian also claims that he came up with the idea of "core with flexibility". Actually that idea was part of the concept of polymorphism in biology and computer science decades before Avakian claimed he did.

In fact I introduced the idea of "core with flexibility" to the revolutionary community as a sub-part of introducing the concept of "Polymorphism" to the revolutionary community in the paper "FORWARD WITH REVOLUTIONARY DIALECTICS" (http://www.risparty.org/FORWARD%20WITH%20REVOLUTIONARY%20DIALECTICS.htm) published in May of 2006. Again polymorphism was already present in biology and computer science, but I connected it to the concepts of revolutionary struggle in that paper.

Avakian willingness to do the above against a fellow revolutionary, who's ideas and concepts he has ripped off since the mid-70's shows him to be some kind of egomaniacal psycho/socio-path. Avakian is one of the worse hypocrite snake in the grass persons I have ever known. He's a horrible bag of bourgeois habits and detestable behavior. He would be a for sure Stalin if he headed a party in power. It's about him having to be on top in the struggle. Avakian claims to have the right to be the highest leader based on his theoretical contributions when he knows in his heart of hearts that every major revolutionary idea/concept/theory held by the Revolutionary Communist Party originated from me. He knows that only because he has monopolized power in the RCP and used its press to serve him that he can falsely claim to have originated that which he knows began with me. What a devil leech he is to the cause of the revolutionary proletariat.

Avakian has acknowledged that he has titled various of his books based upon slogans and terms I originated. He says that while works of his used my titles it was his analysis in the work. In some cases that was true and in other he did in fact use my analysis and themes as well. For instance I bandied the term "Mao's Immortal Contributions" in a number of public forums, and Avakian then titled a book with the same name. In addition his chapter by chapter breakdown of the subject matter and the analysis that he used in each chapter of the book came from me in what and how I addressed the subject manner in those same forums and seminars.

[Turinbaar]

Their members often come by to the cafe where I play music and post their propaganda (recently on Ferguson and NY) on the public board. They once tried to get me to go to one of their video screenings. It's hard to describe the look on their faces. You know how in The Dark Knight, the Joker used inmates of the insane asylum as his henchmen? It was kinda like that.

[BIXX]

He is unquestionably psycho/socio-pathic. Someone like him who claims the ideas as his that are actually from others is psycho/socio-pathic.

Hmmm... Where could I have possibly seen this before?

Spoiler alert, its fucking you.

Also that isn't what makes someone a sociopath or a psychopath. Idiot.

[Ravn]

Regardless of what one thinks about Avakian (he appears to me to be slightly psychotic) or his 'party' (which is probably about 75% infiltrated and funded by the FBI), ...

In Revolution, the RCP paper, there's a section on there where they identify themselves & their purposes. One headline asks: What is Communist Revolution? & then their explanation ---> wherein there's no mention of the proletariat, nor even the working class nor the dictatorship of the proletariat. Instead, they say: "A world where people work and struggle together for the common good." & then the rest sounds like an anarchistic utopian Disneyland. Then another headline that asks: Who Is Bob..., Chairman of the ... Party? OK, so Bob is your chairman & then ---> they actually say: "... we have the kind of rare and precious leader who does not come along very often". Why would alleged Marxist-Leninists subscribe to a great man theory? (Well, the fact is, real ones wouldn't. What kind of cynical opportunism is operating there?) There's a lot more yadayayada than this but this is what it really boils down to. I think they want people to take them seriously but I don't see how since it has all the appearance of a hoax &/or a farce. They might as well call themselves Petty-Bourgeois Communal Party, (PCP). They are trying to disassociate people from reality.

[John Nada]

They might as well call themselves Petty-Bourgeois Communal Party, (PCP). They are trying to disassociate people from reality.Haha, I get it. The "[feels] great man" theory.:laugh: Only difference is actual PCP would be more useful in protests.

[Tim Redd]

In Revolution, the RCP paper, there's a section on there where they identify themselves & their purposes. One headline asks: What is Communist Revolution? & then their explanation ---> wherein there's no mention of the proletariat, nor even the working class nor the dictatorship of the proletariat. Instead, they say: "A world where people work and struggle together for the common good." & then the rest sounds like an anarchistic utopian Disneyland.

Did the "anarchistic utopian" section mention the goal to achieve the abolition of classes and the interrelated aim of communists to eliminate all exploitation and oppression? Those 2 things would be good enough to cover the liberation of the working class. I'm not a fan of Avakian, but I want to be clear on whom is saying what.


Then another headline that asks: Who Is Bob..., Chairman of the ... Party? OK, so Bob is your chairman & then ---> they actually say: "... we have the kind of rare and precious leader who does not come along very often". Why would alleged Marxist-Leninists subscribe to a great man theory? (Well, the fact is, real ones wouldn't. What kind of cynical opportunism is operating there?)

I think it is possible to have leaders without subscribing to the "great people theory".

On it's most basic level, a revolutionary party is necessary leadership to society as a whole (excluding the top 5 to 10% in terms of wealth) for carrying out socialist revolution, including making revolution for an extended period in cultural revolutions after the initial seizure of power via a socialist revolution. This is regarding revolution in highly developed, typically imperialist, countries, or locales.

That which I described in the previous paragraph doesn't imply that history can only be changed via great people in such a party. Effective leadership (the determination and implementation of revolutionary strategy and tactics) of such a party doesn't require that any one or handful of individuals in the party play an exceptional or outsized role. However it does often occur that such individuals are present in a revolutionary party. As long as such people play a positive role they should be acknowledged and such acknowledgement may be able to accelerate the process of revolution.

The major problem with acknowledging Avakian as a special leader is the fact that he is not so special. The RCP claims that Avakian is special because he supposedly provided the correct line and tactics for the direction of the RCP (including at crucial juntures in the history of the RCP). However in fact Avakian has not been the person providing crucial theory and direction for the RCP and other Maoists since the '70's. That would be due to me. It was I who formulated the central aspects of the strategy and ideology of the party as it today. I did so through a series of speeches at rallies and forums in the late '70s in Detroit, MI. I laid out the main skeleton and structure of the current RCP line and strategy, excluding the creation of personaity cult for Avakian, during at a speech given on African Liberation Day in May 1977. Avakian acknowledges that he heard the speech. After that he picked up the pace of falsely claiming that the line and policies that I had been elucidating originated from him. There are a handful of people who can acknowledge that in fact it was myself who was the source of the perspective and strategy that the RCP adopted in the late '70's.

The essential outline of the ideology and strategy was that the events in every locale around the world were driven by world affairs. And thus decisions of local parties should first take into world affairs. Local communists should formulate their line and actions based upon supporting and be supported by global proletarian struggle. The other major pillar of the line I promulgated in the late '70's was the key strategy for making revolution is to create public opinion (CPO) in favor of revolution in the forms of agitation and propaganda as stated by Lenin in his work "What is To Be Done?". CPO persuades the people to build mass struggle that actually leads to socialist revolution and as a part this it also educates the masses in revolutionary ideology and tactics.

(Avakian's plagiarism began with him claiming to have broken down Mao's contributions according to thinking and slogans that originated with me. In fact he named the book where he did that "Mao's Immortal Contributions", which was a slogan I popularized at various events in Detroit, MI in the late '70's. Then also in the late '70's I introduced the concept that local/national affairs and processes of a country and its proletarian movement were subordinate to global/world affairs and processes. Avakian claimed that it was he who originated this theory within the RCP and other Maoist elements. In fact I reintroduced the concept to the RCP via speeches I gave public rallies and forums in Detroit in the late '70s. I summarized this perspective in the paper Internationalism and Philosophy: An Overview of Systems & Revolution (http://risparty.org/Int.htm) in 1983.)

[BIXX]

Did the "anarchistic utopian" section mention the goal to achieve the abolition of classes and the interrelated aim of communists to eliminate all exploitation and oppression? Those 2 things would be good enough to cover the liberation of the working class. I'm not a fan of Avakian, but I want to be clear on whom is saying what.



I think it is possible to have leaders without subscribing to the "great people theory".

On it's most basic level, a revolutionary party is necessary leadership to society as a whole (excluding the top 5 to 10% in terms of wealth) for carrying out socialist revolution, including making revolution for an extended period in cultural revolutions after the initial seizure of power via a socialist revolution. This is regarding revolution in highly developed, typically imperialist, countries, or locales.

That which I described in the previous paragraph doesn't imply that history is primarily can only be changed via great people in such a party. Effective leadership (the determination and implementation of revolutionary strategy and tactics) of such a party can doesn't require that any one or handful of individuals in the party play an exceptional or outsized role. However it does often occur that such individuals are present in a revolutionary party. As long as such people play a positive role they should be acknowledged and such acknowledgement may be able to accelerate the process of revolution.

The major problem with acknowledging Avakian as a special leader is the fact that he and the RCP base that upon Avakian supposedly providing the correct line and tactics for the direction of the RCP (including at crucial juntures in the history of the RCP). However in fact Avakian has not been the person providing crucial theory and direction for the RCP and other Maoists since the '70's. That would be due to me.

It began with Avakian, breaking down Mao's contributions according to slogans and thinking that originated with me. Then in the late '70's I introduced the concept that local/national affairs and processes of a country and its proletarian movement were subordinate to global/world affairs and processes. Avakian then claimed that it was he who originated this theory within the RCP and other Maoist elements. [Much more later. Just ran out of time, my apology.]
Either delusional, or a liar, or a troll. Take your pick, revleft.

[Ravn]

Did the "anarchistic utopian" section mention the goal to achieve the abolition of classes and the interrelated aim of communists to eliminate all exploitation and oppression? Those 2 things would be good enough to cover the liberation of the working class. I'm not a fan of Avakian, but I want to be clear on whom is saying what.

What they say to the question of "What is Communist Revolution?": "It is this system that has got us in the situation we're in today, and keeps us there. And it is through revolution to get rid of this system that we ourselves can bring a much better system into being. The ultimate goal of this revolution is communism: A world where people work and struggle together for the common good...Where everyone contributes whatever they can to society and gets back what they need to live a life worth of human beings ... Where there are no more divisions among people in which some rule over and oppress others, robbing them not only of the means to a decent life but also of knowledge and a means for really understanding, and acting to change, the world. This revolution is both necessary and possible."

This doesn't specify exactly what system has "got us in the situation we're in today". Doesn't specify that it's a proletarian socialist revolution they advocate, nor that this revolution's purpose is to establish a dictatorship of the proletariat. It just jumps to an ultimate goal of communism as if whatever they consider to be an authentic revolution is going to quickly get us to this state of affairs.

& all this alleged personal stuff between you & Avakian is irrelevant to what I'm driving at here. Nobody's stopping you from moving on either. Your Chairman Envy is ridiculous. If you originated some of the RCP's confusion, that's nothing to brag about anyway.

[ckaihatsu]

Then in the late '70's I introduced the concept that local/national affairs and processes of a country and its proletarian movement were subordinate to global/world affairs and processes.


I, um -- (sigh) -- *I* invented the idea that the world is bigger than any local place.


= D

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Either delusional, or a liar, or a troll. Take your pick, revleft.

I like the creepy master/student relationship tim redd and ravn have been developing lately. Ravn you need to develop your redd-thought to a higher level before speaking on behalf of comrade redd. You should learn your place imho

[Ravn]

I like the creepy master/student relationship tim redd and ravn have been developing lately. Ravn you need to develop your redd-thought to a higher level before speaking on behalf of comrade redd. You should learn your place imho

Redd is just confused but somebody needs to put your over-entitled ass in the ground.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

You want to kill me because I make fun of you on the internet? You're the one in control of what you post friend, not me.

[PhoenixAsh]

Redd is just confused but somebody needs to put your over-entitled ass in the ground.

Yes...I am most definately construing this as a life threat made against a forum member.

infraction for threats made against forum member

If you do not agree with this infraction or think it is unfair...you can PM an admin

[Ravn]

You want to kill me because I make fun of you on the internet? You're the one in control of what you post friend, not me.

I didn't say *I* want to kill you. I said *somebody* should put your ass in the ground because you're over-entitled. You're like those disrespectful guys over at Charlie Hebdo. Self-righteous & in denial. But they got put in their place by those they deem to put in theirs. Everybody's crying about all of that, but I think it's hilarious. Free entertainment.

[Sasha]

your disgusting...

[Ravn]

your disgusting...


Why? Weren't Charlie Hedbo's cartoons pretty racist? They got fire-bombed once for their shit. All these people running around chanting "We're not afraid", should think about what they're actually defending. This thing isn't just all about religion.

[DAN E BOY]

Redd is just confused but somebody needs to put your over-entitled ass in the ground.



The way i'm reading into this post is this:

You (personally) didn't make a threat to this member, but that post could be perceived as threatening, or at minimum hostile.

I would have thought you're best off apologising.

[Sasha]

I would have thought you're best off apologising.

yeah, but if they double down, wishing death on other users and making threats is actually ground for a ban.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

So do I get to become Tim Redd's padawan now? I'm confused by how Maoism works.

[DAN E BOY]

yeah, but if they double down, wishing death on other users and making threats is actually ground for a ban.



I didn't see any death threats, must of missed it. Yeah that is unacceptable.

[Tim Redd]

all this alleged personal stuff between you & Avakian is irrelevant to what I'm driving at here. Nobody's stopping you from moving on either. Your Chairman Envy is ridiculous. If you originated some of the RCP's confusion, that's nothing to brag about anyway.

Nothing I've said in this thread had the intention of dealing what you are driving at. I have the proletariat's and based upon that my agenda that I'm concerned with. That's underlies my comments in this thread. What's that tunes refrain, "you probably think this song is about you". But it isn't.

[Tim Redd]

Yes...I am most definately construing this as a life threat made against a forum member.

infraction for threats made against forum member

If you do not agree with this infraction or think it is unfair...you can PM an admin

Who are admins other than you?

Ravn never said he would do anything, he just expressed that something to happen. That is not a threat from him.

And what do you all consider to be threats? Someone posted that they would like to slam me in a UFA match. It would have never happened based upon my skills, but isn't that a direct threat? And in that recent case the poster wasn't banned.

And does someone have to banned forever. Most orgs and groups have steps and levels, where for instance your're out for some period of time and then you can come back. Why is everything here perpetual?

[BIXX]

It would have never happened based upon my skills,

Lol

So you're saying you're the best Marxist theorist of the modern age and that you're an incredible fighter who is damn positive that you could beat anyone here in a fight?

And you're saying he hasn't been banned for being a troll?

[PhoenixAsh]

Who are admins other than you?

Ravn never said he would do anything, he just expressed that something to happen. That is not a threat from him.

And what do you all consider to be threats? Someone posted that they would like to slam me in a UFA match. It would have never happened based upon my skills, but isn't that a direct threat? And in that recent case the poster wasn't banned.

And does someone have to banned forever. Most orgs and groups have steps and levels, where for instance your're out for some period of time and then you can come back. Why is everything here perpetual?

Everybody with a red name is an Admin. Everybody with a purple name is a mod.

It is explicitly not allowed to express death threats or threats against somebodies bodily integrity... how ludicrous they may be considering. We don't know anybody, we don't know how serious these threats really are and in the past threats have proven to have IRL consequences.

On top of thath Ravn got an infraction as a warning... and instead of shutting the hell up...they then repeated the threat. So we take it serious.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Ufc match? Please, I meant a real cage fight; with a ladder, chairs and a folding table that one of us (you) would be thrown into.

[BIXX]

Ethics, you shine a bright, wonderful light on revleft.

[Kassad]

I do love how the logical extent of a redbaiting piece on the Church of Avakian is internet posturing. Communism fails every time someone uses the phrase "based upon my skills" in a sentence. However, I'd love to see some of you people thrown off a steel cage Mick Foley style.

[Atsumari]

Who are admins other than you?

Ravn never said he would do anything, he just expressed that something to happen. That is not a threat from him.

And what do you all consider to be threats? Someone posted that they would like to slam me in a UFA match. It would have never happened based upon my skills, but isn't that a direct threat? And in that recent case the poster wasn't banned.

And does someone have to banned forever. Most orgs and groups have steps and levels, where for instance your're out for some period of time and then you can come back. Why is everything here perpetual?
Are you determined to be an enemy of the people of RevLeft?

[Sewer Socialist]

I do love how the logical extent of a redbaiting piece on the Church of Avakian is internet posturing. Communism fails every time someone uses the phrase "based upon my skills" in a sentence. However, I'd love to see some of you people thrown off a steel cage Mick Foley style.

"Based upon my skills" immediately reminds me of Napolean Dynomite. Since I do not know how Tim Redd looks, that is how I am assuming he looks from now on.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Not like the RCP is going to become relevant any time soon, no matter how desperately they try to insert themselves into whatever struggle comes up like the parasitic filth they are; if anything, every one of their attempts will only contribute to the quicker destruction of these movements.

[Tim Redd]

"Based upon my skills" immediately reminds me of Napolean Dynomite. Since I do not know how Tim Redd looks, that is how I am assuming he looks from now on.

Just remember that Napolean Dynamite prevailed in the end. And based upon your icon, it appears you were beat with an ugly stick. If that's the image of you, or what you want to project, it's vomitorious.

[BIXX]

Just remember that Napolean Dynamite prevailed in the end. And based upon your icon, it appears you were beat with an ugly stick. If that's the image of you, or what you want to project, it's vomitorious.
So you promote the bourgeois body standards of capitalism?

[ckaihatsu]

And based upon your icon, it appears you were beat with an ugly stick. If that's the image of you, or what you want to project, it's vomitorious.


Here ya, go, Tim, it's a must-see....


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Pink_Flamingos_%281972%29.jpg/215px-Pink_Flamingos_%281972%29.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069089/


Just remember, we're in this *together*...!


= D

[BIXX]

Actually furthermore, why would any committed revolutionary call themselves Tim Redd (presumably your real name)? It shows that you have no inkling about security culture and this are unsafe for other committed revolutionaries to work with. Furthermore, you are constantly accusing other people of being bourgeois agents, which is a super common thing for cops to do, as they are trying to spread mistrust and paranoia amongst radical communities?

Don't be surprised to find out Tim Redd has been attempting to infiltrate our extremely revolutionary ranks.

[Sewer Socialist]

If that's the image of you, or what you want to project, it's vomitorious.

Thank you! :wub::wub::wub:

[Tim Redd]

Not like the RCP is going to become relevant any time soon, no matter how desperately they try to insert themselves into whatever struggle comes up like the parasitic filth they are; if anything, every one of their attempts will only contribute to the quicker destruction of these movements.

I think a genuine party should have something to say, or try to involve itself and act to promote revolution on all issues that significantly affect the people and the struggle for revolution. Anything less is an abrogation of requirements of leadership.

The problem is that Avakian puts himself forward as the Marxist Leninist Maoist with the best or the most consistently high level of theory to lead the revolutionary struggle. I'm not bragging, but nearly all of the innovative theory since Mao has been produced by me. Please see my theory and positions at http://www.risparty.org/. Avakian practices outright plagiarism and claims he was first with the ideas, positions and theories first formulated by me. That is ingrained into his personality. He's been like that since I've known him for over 10 years. He's a bourgeois parasite.

The thing that makes what's happening in this regard so bad is that Avakian claims to have moved forward Marxist-Leninist-Maoist (MLM) theory and on that basis he should be looked to first for theoretical and strategic leadership in the MLM realm. But in reality he has plagiarized my work in Marxist-Leninist-Maoist theory. See www.risparty.org for various works. Plus see Beyond Dialectics to Dynamics (http://www.revleft.com/vb/beyond-dialectics-dynamics-t190438/index.html). So people will errantly looking to him first for good theory and direction, but in actuality he has contributed little to none original theory and strategy.

[Tim Redd]

Here ya, go, Tim, it's a must-see....


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Pink_Flamingos_%281972%29.jpg/215px-Pink_Flamingos_%281972%29.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069089/


Just remember, we're in this *together*...!


= D

Hey, I have nothing against transgenders but come on. You can't get down on my supposed looks honey when you're showing with that much unusual makeup and tad to much padding - just for health reasons. :-)

[ckaihatsu]

Hey, I have nothing against transgenders but come on. You can't get down on my supposed looks honey when you're showing with that much unusual makeup and tad to much padding. :-)


Uh, yeah, *whatever* -- it's a *movie*, Tim.

[Per Levy]

Someone posted that they would like to slam me in a UFA match. It would have never happened based upon my skills

wich makes me wonder why you dont just go to avakian and beat him up to the point he gives you complete reign of the rcp?

and going with all wrestling references here, this would be an interesting story, the leader of cult and the apostate that wants to be leader of the cult, the only problem is i dont know who would be face or heel, probally both would be heel and would fight it out in a tlc match. someone give that idea to the wwe, it wouldnt be worse than the shit they produce for months.

[Sewer Socialist]

Hey, I have nothing against transgenders but come on. You can't get down on my supposed looks honey when you're showing with that much unusual makeup and tad to much padding - just for health reasons. :-)

Divine is actually a drag queen (not me, of course), and in the movie Pink Flamingos, she is actually named the "most revolting person alive" or something like that. The entire movie is an exploration of things you'd probably call "vomitorious".

At any rate, we can all laugh at each others' presentations of ourselves. In real life, most things I do are probably in poor taste, and I certainly don't think of myself as the vanguard of good looks, and certainly not the bourgeois conception thereof.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

That's exactly what I've been doing. I've out-classed and outright defeated comrade Redd's understudy in single combat. I officially demand to be elected to the position of Chairman of the Revolutionary Internationalist Socialist Party (RISP-USA), it's committees, publications and cadres. RISP has entered a period of crisis with Tim Redd's attempt to make contact with the outside world via revleft. Only my rhetorical courage and intellectual fortitude can lead this party to victory over the proletariat. Submit to the will of the people

[Ocean Seal]

>we live in non-revolutionary times when decades go by and nothing happens.
That's honestly a bit of a cop out which doesn't answer his question.
To answer your question op as someone who grew up in nyc it's a really weak left scene. There are several reasons for this. While most New Yorkers are liberal nationally, a lot of them hold conservative beliefs on the local level. With practices like segregated schools, and redlining being widely accepted. New York has also grown wealthier as Giuliani succeeded in pushing poor people into New Jersey. This has made it more conservative and made landlords and police more aggressive in an effort to perform mass evictions. This results in a more repressive anti protest police force. People have been scared of the police in New York more than in the past when people are scared to protest they stay in and post on revleft which keeps them out of the movement. This means that when shit pops up people aren't ready or organized.

[bricolage]

With practices like segregated schools, and redlining being widely accepted.
Aren't the schools segregated because the city is segregated? i.e. black people and white people (to use a crude example) tend to live in different places so the schools in those places reflect the people living there. I mean I think New York is horrifically segregated, but are the schools really what drives it or just a reflection of it?


People have been scared of the police in New York more than in the past when people are scared to protest they stay in and post on revleft which keeps them out of the movement.
To be fair there's been a lot more people on protests in New York recently than there has been for a long time.

[Bala Perdida]

That's exactly what I've been doing. I've out-classed and outright defeated comrade Redd's understudy in single combat. I officially demand to be elected to the position of Chairman of the Revolutionary Internationalist Socialist Party (RISP-USA), it's committees, publications and cadres. RISP has entered a period of crisis with Tim Redd's attempt to make contact with the outside world via revleft. Only my rhetorical courage and intellectual fortitude can lead this party to victory over the proletariat. Submit to the will of the people
Based on this Redd's presentation of themselves I don't think that would be a good idea. Obviously the mass appeal effort of the RISP-USA means he's trying to fishnet radicals with the party. Having tricked multiple people into it already, and then using a name which is heavily implied to be their name. Obviously creating leads. Redd thought? More like red bait! Handing them over to the FBI! Not as the reincarnation of Mao Tse-Tung, but of McCarthy. All beware of Redd bait.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Well now that I am at the helm there will be no more of that confusion. From here on out RISP will be synonymous with the FBI, let one hundred sting operations bloom

[BIXX]

Divine is actually a drag queen (not me, of course), and in the movie Pink Flamingos, she is actually named the "most revolting person alive" or something like that. The entire movie is an exploration of things you'd probably call "vomitorious".

At any rate, we can all laugh at each others' presentations of ourselves. In real life, most things I do are probably in poor taste, and I certainly don't think of myself as the vanguard of good looks, and certainly not the bourgeois conception thereof.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=1294

[Kassad]

Have I been gone from this website so long that I missed a gentleman claiming he's made a qualitative leap beyond Maoism, while also bemoaning Bob Avakian in the very same post for suggesting he'd done the same? Please tell me it was your idea as well to put out his 11 hour lecture DVDs. I require someone to blame.

[Ocean Seal]

Aren't the schools segregated because the city is segregated? i.e. black people and white people (to use a crude example) tend to live in different places so the schools in those places reflect the people living there. I mean I think New York is horrifically segregated, but are the schools really what drives it or just a reflection of it?

I meant to say that schools are not only racially segregated but also economically segregated because of zoning policies that allow only people in the immediate area to attend certain public schools. Zoning policies are very racialized however, in that banks do not allow the same loans for people of color, and often are not shown certain neighborhoods by realtors.



To be fair there's been a lot more people on protests in New York recently than there has been for a long time.
This is true, but that's also because of the Ferguson catalyst, and the fact that the problem happened so close in Brooklyn, Staten Island, etc.

[Tim Redd]

Actually furthermore, why would any committed revolutionary call themselves Tim Redd (presumably your real name)? It shows that you have no inkling about security culture and this are unsafe for other committed revolutionaries to work with.

What? Please explain how this makes sense.


Furthermore, you are constantly accusing other people of being bourgeois agents, which is a super common thing for cops to do, as they are trying to spread mistrust and paranoia amongst radical communities?Where I have accused others of being bourgeois agents? Please quote from previous posts.


Don't be surprised to find out Tim Redd has been attempting to infiltrate our extremely revolutionary ranks.You have recently explicitly written that you do not like Marx and are not for socialist/communist revolution. I don't understand what revolutionary ranks you are a part of.

Given those things, you really are a immoral opportunist, who'll say anything to attempt to save your arse face in discussion.