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Sentinel
29th December 2014, 00:38
Restarting a few of the stickies as they had passed the 500 posts mark or were close. Please continue any discussions in the new threads.

Quail
30th December 2014, 17:48
When I listen to a scratched CD and it won't play my favourite song.

Loony Le Fist
30th December 2014, 19:36
When I listen to a scratched CD and it won't play my favourite song.

Ahhhh. That's the worst! That isn't a little thing either.

Quail
30th December 2014, 19:44
Ahhhh. That's the worst! That isn't a little thing either.

I know, especially when my favourite song is like the twelfth track so I've been waiting ages and everything.

PhoenixAsh
30th December 2014, 19:51
The front car wheel of my car breaking clean off as I pulled away. I needed that car for a date on the 2nd.

Quail
4th January 2015, 19:24
The sheer amount of mess made by one four year old child. I cleaned up the house this morning so my partner can come back to a nice clean house, but the amount of effort it's taken to keep it that way for the past eight hours has been taxing to say the least.

Also, I hate it when my toe starts to peep out through a hole in my sock.

Crabbensmasher
8th January 2015, 22:03
Little background: My flatmate is a big liberal party supporter, organizer for their youth wing, wants to get into politics someday. Shit politics but I like the guy.

Today he tried to convince tell me why a $15 minimum wage was a bad idea because it causes inflation, higher prices for goods and job losses.

I said that it actually stimulates demand by increasing purchasing power in a segment of the population thats more likely to spend it as opposed to sitting on it. Otherwise, it would be in their bosses hands and they would sit on it, not resinvesting in the economy. It would actually cause a good deal of growth if it were implemented. I didn't even mention the moral argument behind it.

He kind of sits there with a blank look before saying "uhh... yeah, I don't know much about economics"

What? You don't know much about economics? This is a super basic argument

Then I go off at him: He's obviously just parroting some shit he heard on the TV about inflation or job losses, probably thinks he's being all smart and moderate about things. He's actually openly advocating for this position, yet he now reveals he has no idea what he's saying. Fuck. I absolutely hate 'politics' or what most people mean when they say politics. Its all just a big game. A big, mindless game.

The Intransigent Faction
13th January 2015, 02:45
Little background: My flatmate is a big liberal party supporter, organizer for their youth wing, wants to get into politics someday. Shit politics but I like the guy.

Today he tried to convince tell me why a $15 minimum wage was a bad idea because it causes inflation, higher prices for goods and job losses.

I said that it actually stimulates demand by increasing purchasing power in a segment of the population thats more likely to spend it as opposed to sitting on it. Otherwise, it would be in their bosses hands and they would sit on it, not resinvesting in the economy. It would actually cause a good deal of growth if it were implemented. I didn't even mention the moral argument behind it.

He kind of sits there with a blank look before saying "uhh... yeah, I don't know much about economics"

What? You don't know much about economics? This is a super basic argument

Then I go off at him: He's obviously just parroting some shit he heard on the TV about inflation or job losses, probably thinks he's being all smart and moderate about things. He's actually openly advocating for this position, yet he now reveals he has no idea what he's saying. Fuck. I absolutely hate 'politics' or what most people mean when they say politics. Its all just a big game. A big, mindless game.

I read at least part of a CCPA (Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives) report that made essentially the argument you just made, but I'm honestly not clear about a couple of things.

Isn't there some grain of truth to what he said, in the sense that employers will try to offset the cost of higher wages, one way another? It does seem like any campaign focused solely on raising the minimum wage and not challenging how the capitalist system operates could mean trouble for workers. If the interest of capitalists was selling for the sake of selling, it doesn't seem like there would be much resistance to a minimum wage increase to redistribute purchasing power at all. The capitalists' interests, of course, are in making a profit, and a higher minimum wage might face reaction in other ways. Still, it's true that workers would be more likely than some rich bastard to use that purchasing power to actually buy stuff (and if I understand correctly, this has been used to 'revitalize' certain economies in the past). If increased purchasing power would just circle back to a capitalist who raised wages I doubt there would be concern...so do they worry that that purchasing power might be, say, used to purchase a rival capitalist's goods or services? Are they just paranoid at the slightest insinuation that someone will take a sliver of their unused purchasing power because of the constant threat of business turning for the worse (a case of artificial scarcity triggering hoarding)? Is it some combination of these factors? This is maybe not the best thread to ask all this, but oh well. Don't mind me, I shouldn't be trying to think about economics right now.

Rosa Partizan
18th January 2015, 13:06
when I'm REALLY hungry and people want to talk to me. Like, starting a meaningful conversation, even if it's my bff. Stfu or I'll eat YOU instead. Rosa loves food more than you.

Invader Zim
18th January 2015, 17:25
Little background: My flatmate is a big liberal party supporter, organizer for their youth wing, wants to get into politics someday. Shit politics but I like the guy.

Today he tried to convince tell me why a $15 minimum wage was a bad idea because it causes inflation, higher prices for goods and job losses.

I said that it actually stimulates demand by increasing purchasing power in a segment of the population thats more likely to spend it as opposed to sitting on it. Otherwise, it would be in their bosses hands and they would sit on it, not resinvesting in the economy. It would actually cause a good deal of growth if it were implemented. I didn't even mention the moral argument behind it.

He kind of sits there with a blank look before saying "uhh... yeah, I don't know much about economics"

What? You don't know much about economics? This is a super basic argument

Then I go off at him: He's obviously just parroting some shit he heard on the TV about inflation or job losses, probably thinks he's being all smart and moderate about things. He's actually openly advocating for this position, yet he now reveals he has no idea what he's saying. Fuck. I absolutely hate 'politics' or what most people mean when they say politics. Its all just a big game. A big, mindless game.

Actually, he's right on a simplistic level. Minimum wages do push up inflation - if the majority have more money then businesses can increase prices accordingly without reducing demand. In order for minimum wages to actually make people better off then they need to be matched with policies which subsidize the cost of living and keep prices down.

Crabbensmasher
19th January 2015, 02:27
Actually, he's right on a simplistic level. Minimum wages do push up inflation - if the majority have more money then businesses can increase prices accordingly without reducing demand. In order for minimum wages to actually make people better off then they need to be matched with policies which subsidize the cost of living and keep prices down.

Does the market work like that? Like, as soon as a single company raises their prices, wouldn't that not be competitive? Wouldn't they be put out of business?Their inputs have not increased in cost - they have no market imperative to raise prices. The only reason they would is if there was a monopoly or some sort of cartel-price fixing arrangement.

Like I guess my point is this: Businesses don't collectively say 'hey look, consumers have more purchasing power. lets all raise our prices at the same time'

Sentinel
22nd January 2015, 06:10
Always when I start a diet to lose weight, in 2 days I will feel really slim as if it wasn't at all necessary to go on diet. But if I quit it, in another 2 days (with pizza and beers) I will feel bloated and overweight again.

This time I won't be fooled, but will go from 80 kg (176 lbs) to 72 kg (158,4 lbs) if it is the last thing I do. I should be able to do it in a few weeks time once I only decide to.

Redistribute the Rep
22nd January 2015, 06:38
You should join the weight loss group

Sentinel
22nd January 2015, 07:34
Nah, it is easy enough for me, almost ridiculously so, to lose weight - except for the damned getting started part. I burn bodyfat easily and basically gain it out of pure thoughtlessness. Only skipping beers on weekdays would probably be enough to lose a few kilos.

I will be using the low carb high fat method, which is very effective as one doesn't have to starve oneself and go hungry. It is also a good method since it is easier to maintain the new weight afterwards.

I started a thread on it in the sports & health forum some time ago (search for LCHF). I can lose weight rapidly with any method - 17 kilos in 3 months back in -04 by eating small portions being my record - but LCHF is the best long term solution.

Quail
22nd January 2015, 20:58
Trying to find a birthday card which isn't shit. I guess maybe I should just make them in future because I have this complaint every time I have to get one for someone.

I saw a nice one, but it said "good luck" instead of "happy birthday" boo.

Redistribute the Rep
22nd January 2015, 21:02
Nah, it is easy enough for me, almost ridiculously so, to lose weight - except for the damned getting started part.


It's the same for me, I can lose easily if I stick to my plan or even cheat a little bit, but it's hard to find the motivation sometimes. But, that's what the group is for, we can keep each other accountable and give motivational advice

Sentinel
22nd January 2015, 21:04
It's the same for me, I can lose easily if I stick to my plan or even cheat a little bit, but it's hard to find the motivation sometimes. But, that's what the group is for, we can keep each other accountable and give motivational advice

Ok, I saw it briefly before, but I'll check it out properly. Thanks! :)
Edit: posted there.

Quail
23rd January 2015, 11:14
Having money trouble so I'm calling to try and get working tax credits... and I've been on hold on a premium number for over 20 minutes. A large phone bill - exactly what I need right now :rolleyes: :glare:

Devrim
23rd January 2015, 11:16
Tax credits is on a premium number? That's terrible.

Devrim

Quail
23rd January 2015, 11:30
Actually just checked and 0345 numbers aren't charged in the same way as 0845 numbers so I shouldn't end up with a huge bill... phew.

consuming negativity
23rd January 2015, 11:39
people who post after i've already clicked on the thread to read it, and then i have to go back into the thread just to read their post after seeing that there are new posts (see: a new post) in the thread

not going to name anyone in particular but quail you need to cut that shit out k. like the third time this week!

Rugged Collectivist
23rd January 2015, 11:42
When I listen to a scratched CD and it won't play my favourite song.

Stop using CDs. Problem solved.

Quail
23rd January 2015, 12:04
Turns out after waiting on hold for 40 minutes I don't have the right information to give them anyway so I need to call someone else and blahblahblah. I don't really understand all this stuff so I'm going to get my partner to help me later.

Yelling "fuck you" at my phone after the call ended and crying didn't make me feel any better.

jullia
26th January 2015, 22:15
When i'am waiting somebody or something and it don't come. I'am calm by nature but can be so impatient.

Quail
29th January 2015, 09:59
When someone else uses my internet and closes all my tabs :(

Ceallach_the_Witch
29th January 2015, 11:15
when my hair gets caught in my shirt buttons, headphones or glasses

consuming negativity
29th January 2015, 12:00
i kept trying to figure out a way to tell a stupid story but being unsatisfied by the results

never did get to tell the story. it was stupid anyway. :crying:

jullia
1st February 2015, 13:59
My boobs:laugh:

The Intransigent Faction
7th February 2015, 18:43
When my headphones get caught on something or tangled up in my pocket and one side stops working.

Redistribute the Rep
7th February 2015, 18:44
The way english people spell "fetus"

BIXX
7th February 2015, 21:48
Union bureaucracy.

Wait you said something small.

Ele'ill
17th February 2015, 01:25
some crust clone asking people to buy them food today i searched for a second for money as i walked past and they asked if i was searching for food and told me they sell it right there, apparently they wanted me to stand in line for them and buy them food so they didn't have to get up

it was just the little comment they made but I just got off work and wanted to kick them in the face and no they got nothing from me although i had money and was going to help them out

BIXX
17th February 2015, 14:33
some crust clone asking people to buy them food today i searched for a second for money as i walked past and they asked if i was searching for food and told me they sell it right there, apparently they wanted me to stand in line for them and buy them food so they didn't have to get up

it was just the little comment they made but I just got off work and wanted to kick them in the face and no they got nothing from me although i had money and was going to help them out
The funny thing is that I recognized the dude, he has a friend who is super nice and helpful so I've given that dude some money in the past.

The Intransigent Faction
19th February 2015, 20:00
Not exactly "small", but 82% of Canadians support the Conservatives' "Anti-Terrorism" Bill C-51...I have no words.

I've stood firmly in my "Voting just legitimizes the system" position up to this point, but I'm almost tempted to vote NDP (Social Democrats) just because they're the one major party to oppose it and its vague language could effectively criminalize acts of civil disobedience by leftists, and in particular as Elizabeth May pointed out, intimidate environmentalist protesters, not to mention it would further empower the surveillance state.

Left unopposed, this kind of legislation could push the left towards more political action outside of the system by restricting opportunities within it, and that would be a good thing. On the other hand, with such a blatant lack of class consciousness and a disorganized fringe of a socialist movement, is there any available option to stop this legislation other than voting for a party that opposes it?

Ele'ill
21st February 2015, 17:36
1. ants - got to the store and there were ants in my bag, which was in my room next to me as I slept. This means today is going to be spent doing laundry and cleaning and drinking.


2. the ads on this site make viewing this site from a smaller media device pretty much impossible since all the free space you could click is actually an ad and when you go to click close it is likely over another link which then takes you to another page of the forum with new ads to close. Also, when ads suddenly load it shifts the entire screen down by about a page and a half.

consuming negativity
26th February 2015, 13:34
laptop fan is making high-pitched squeaks because i got this thing in 2009 and it's just worn the fuck out

soon it will be replaced but i might end up going postal before i can do so responsibly

BIXX
26th February 2015, 16:10
Coworkers who are down with work.

Quail
26th February 2015, 16:23
I cut myself on some tinfoil yesterday and it won't stop bleeding. It's basically like an especially annoying paper cut.

The Intransigent Faction
27th February 2015, 03:20
Would-be Canadians will have to keep taking an oath to the Queen after the Supreme Court of Canada on Thursday refused to hear a challenge to the citizenship requirement.

...Welcome to the 21st Century?

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/citizenship-oath-to-queen-remains-law-of-land/ar-BBi02qT?ocid=ASUDHP

EDIT: And holy shit, the comments on that story. Holy shit.

Atsumari
28th February 2015, 03:48
Resetting my password every 150 days

And people like this
http://i.imgur.com/YRqnm5B.jpg

Trap Queen Voxxy
28th February 2015, 04:08
Flakey people I wanna bash they brains ins, like if you're luke warm I will spit thee from mine mouth

Tim Redd
28th February 2015, 05:14
The sound of people snorting their nose/throat mucus up into their head rather than expectorating it; especially when done repeatedly.

The sound of people nearby vigorously manipulating paper and newspapers for extended periods of time.

The sound of dozens of trucks in a construction zone or crowded city beeping as they back up all day, every weekday.

Tim Redd
28th February 2015, 05:22
Flakey people I wanna bash they brains ins, like if you're luke warm I will spit thee from mine mouth

Flakes who were with you 10 minutes ago but are now firmly opposed.

Tim Redd
28th February 2015, 05:28
Resetting my password every 150 days.

Having to reset your password every 60 days! And being required to use 12 characters with all the fixin's of rules for how it must be created.

consuming negativity
2nd March 2015, 18:18
>apply for medical assistance like six months ago
>denied because i don't make enough money
>new year, time to go get some obamacare site insurance so i don't get fined out my ass
>denied because i qualify for medical assistance in my state
>nothing has changed whatsoever but alright
>get my acceptance letter like a week after i send out the stuff to get insurance through my new employer, but in the meantime, i still can't go to the fucking doctor because paperwork and bureaucracy

Quail
2nd March 2015, 18:24
Coming on here and opening cans of worms by accident.

Thirsty Crow
2nd March 2015, 19:20
So I'm riding the bus, and the woman sitting behind me starts eating...something. And while doing so, smacking her lips in a so obnoxious manner that it triggers all sorts of thought processes in my putrid brain. Ranging from sharply asking her to stop, to physically making her stop, to hoping and whishing we crash and crash soon (so I'm left for dead cause hey it's for the best) to wishing NASA concealed the fact that just about RIGHT FUCKING NOW a massive asteroid hits Earth.

See, I don't like people smacking their lips while eating. On a related note, I always feel super self-conscious while eating in the presence of strangers; I remember a fictive species from Star Trek who had a taboo prohibiting eating in front of anyone other than close friends and family. They were wise indeed.

motion denied
2nd March 2015, 19:46
And people like this
http://i.imgur.com/YRqnm5B.jpg

This CANNOT possibly be true. Wow, just w-o-w.

Brandon's Impotent Rage
5th March 2015, 21:47
You know what I hate?

Those stupid personality tests/questionnaires on job applications. They're all complete bullshit, are like 80 questions too long, and frankly they're a complete waste of time.

consuming negativity
5th March 2015, 22:25
You know what I hate?

Those stupid personality tests/questionnaires on job applications. They're all complete bullshit, are like 80 questions too long, and frankly they're a complete waste of time.

the trick to these is to take them as though you're a moderate conservative

freedom is good, hierarchy is acceptable, the company loves me, unions are evil, follow the rules

Tim Redd
7th March 2015, 03:42
So I'm riding the bus, and the woman sitting behind me starts eating...something. And while doing so, smacking her lips in a so obnoxious manner that it triggers all sorts of thought processes in my putrid brain....See, I don't like people smacking their lips while eating...

There is a way that some speakers using a mike make "liquidy", meaty sounds with their lips for nearly every word they pronounce. I can't stand that.

Tim Redd
7th March 2015, 04:00
I can't stand when people pronounce their S's in a super sibilant (S's sounded with a hissing effect) manner. I over hear these people in conversation and each time they pronounce an S it's like a dagger to my brain. Almost always when it happens, it's white girls doing it.

[I have nothing against white girls in general, but when done by them it's ultra, super annoying.]

Lily Briscoe
7th March 2015, 04:29
Dude, you're a middle-aged man who just said "ultra, super annoying"

consuming negativity
7th March 2015, 04:46
i thought you left

Lily Briscoe
7th March 2015, 05:11
Nah, I intended to, but I have no willpower and still come on here whenever I'm drunk and bored. The truth is that I actually have nothing better to do with my time, truth hurts

Edit: tneres a barred owl hooting outside, if you'll excuse me Immaa go talk to it :o

Tim Redd
7th March 2015, 05:56
Dude, you're a middle-aged man who just said "ultra, super annoying"

"ultra super annoying" when used by men you assert to be middle-aged is worth noting because of what?

Apparently you are quite the bourgeois, traditionalist in your thinking. Something I hope never befalls me.

Ceallach_the_Witch
11th March 2015, 16:44
vegan makeup is expensive as fuck

BIXX
11th March 2015, 17:10
Tim Redd

consuming negativity
11th March 2015, 21:04
gonna take a break from revleft for a while until hopefully the forum problems are solved

the amount of effort it took me to make this post is ridiculous

Tim Redd
12th March 2015, 03:46
Tim Redd

Back at you "Dirty Doxxer". After dropping such a despicable id, why would anyone serious about moving society forward, use such a loser id as "Placenta Cream"?

It's clear that all you really care about is your worthless ego.

Quail
12th March 2015, 10:44
I think putting another user as "something small that annoys the living shit out of you" counts as flaming. So, no more of that please.

The Intransigent Faction
13th March 2015, 00:07
This article:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com//2015/03/02/why-our-children-dont-think-there-are-moral-facts/

Oh noes, moral relativism is corrupting our children!!!111

Remember: if there were no 'moral facts', we'd all go around killing people at a whim, lying, and cheating. Also:

"George Washington was the first U.S. President."
"That's YOUR opinion."
:rolleyes:

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
13th March 2015, 01:22
This article:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com//2015/03/02/why-our-children-dont-think-there-are-moral-facts/

Oh noes, moral relativism is corrupting our children!!!111

Remember: if there were no 'moral facts', we'd all go around killing people at a whim, lying, and cheating. Also:

"George Washington was the first U.S. President."
"That's YOUR opinion."
:rolleyes:

Next up: someone who specialises in an ill-defined, semi-theological field bemoans people not taking said field seriously. And after that: dog bites man.

Also he doesn't even use the terms of his own profession correctly. "There are no moral facts" is nihilism (noncognitivism and error theory), not relativism. Relativism is obnoxious liberal piety and obligatory beating of the chest and wearing of sackcloth. Noncognitivism is where it's at children.

Pst, kid, want to buy some Ayer?

Creative Destruction
13th March 2015, 01:36
Loud people talking on their phones on the bus. People who think everyone needs to know about their relationship problems on the bus.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
13th March 2015, 03:18
The bus

Trap Queen Voxxy
13th March 2015, 03:31
Coming down from casual ice smokeage, like, it's 10:30, I need to eat this plate of pasta and it feels physically impossible to get high on weed properly and I'm afraid my sedatives are too strong to take for bed and my lungs are way weak and I would die in my sleep. This is lame. I'm glad this isn't everyday, I don't need to be this peppy. I'm fine with sedatives and pot :[

Os Cangaceiros
14th March 2015, 15:00
You should clean your house twice, and then start a bunch of projects but never finish them.

Redistribute the Rep
14th March 2015, 21:03
People misusing the word 'whom'

Quail
15th March 2015, 12:45
I'm mildly concussed due to being on the receiving end of "women's throw of the day" at a Judo thing yesterday.

I wish the weight categories had been under and over 57kg rather than under and over 63. I've never fought under 63s before and I don't know if I want to repeat the experience (my opponents were both bigger and better than me).

Trap Queen Voxxy
15th March 2015, 19:59
I'm mildly concussed due to being on the receiving end of "women's throw of the day" at a Judo thing yesterday.

I wish the weight categories had been under and over 57kg rather than under and over 63. I've never fought under 63s before and I don't know if I want to repeat the experience (my opponents were both bigger and better than me).

I've thought about trying judo classes, I'm like 157 cm and 7 stone, u think I could do it?

Quail
15th March 2015, 21:31
I've thought about trying judo classes, I'm like 157 cm and 7 stone, u think I could do it?

There might not be many people your size, but if you're interested I'd give it a go. A woman about your size/weight recently started at the club I train with and she seems to be enjoying it :)

Cliff Paul
16th March 2015, 05:30
Having Tinnitus

Brandon's Impotent Rage
16th March 2015, 06:13
The way that the smell of Indian food seems to get absorbed by your clothes.

I mean, I love Chicken Tikka Massala....but damn am I gonna smell like it the next day.

Asero
22nd March 2015, 16:52
People misusing the word 'whom'

People using the word 'whom'

The Intransigent Faction
1st May 2015, 04:50
Something small that annoys me is that feeling I get when I make a spelling or grammar mistake on a post somewhere and only notice it after people like the post. :unsure:

Quail
8th May 2015, 14:50
People using the suffragettes to guilt-trip women into voting! If I had a penny for every time someone used that awful argument...

Bala Perdida
8th May 2015, 19:34
Being to tired to wake up early to do my laundry. Now I have to try and squeeze it in before work.

Sinister Intents
18th May 2015, 20:48
Ideological puritans

Quail
19th May 2015, 14:54
The sound of people inhaling cannister after cannister of laughing gas.

Atsumari
19th May 2015, 18:07
When people use the word "Overthink"
Send them to the gulag plz

Ele'ill
19th May 2015, 23:53
When you get on a bus (to keep the bus theme going) and you decide to stand since your stop is not that far away and the bus is packed, and someone shouts that there is a seat available, and then the bus driver angrily says there's a seat available, and then other people start yelling at you to sit and you have to explain that the next 3 stops are usually busy at this time, someone else can have the seat, I'm getting off the bus at the 4th stop and it is about as long winded and stressful to read as this post so far thanks for violently forcing your niceness on me just leave me alone fuck how do you even have this much energy its 4pm.

Also bus related when there is a can or glass bottle rolling around on the floor in the back and nobody is picking it up or stopping it from rolling even better when there are multiple bottles and cans rolling around. So maybe you decide to get up and go pick the bottles up and you see them in the back corner under someone's seat and they're just like 'nah just leave it its way back there' because they're in the way and don't feel like reaching under and grabbing the shit.

When there's 4 stops in a row and each are 1 block away from each other and each stop has people waiting and also the people who complain about this for being neurotic trainwrecks and instead of just chilling the fuck out on the way home from work have to feel the need to have everything perfect.

consuming negativity
23rd May 2015, 09:08
ants

how the fuck did they even manage to find their way all the way in here for a piece of trash that hasn't been sitting there but for maybe 3 hours

spent like an hour earlier spraying everything with pesticides and hunting down stragglers with my lighter

Palmares
23rd May 2015, 09:13
fucking ants.

had to rescue my boojie honey from them. tried the 'ol honey jar on a plate with water trick. and it works. :)

Also...

fucking mice.

caught one between the fridge and the kitchen bench. it aint' goin' nowhere sucka! :lol:

mushroompizza
23rd May 2015, 14:39
White people can't be anti racist, if I say something against racism people of all races look at me as if I'm an idiot. White people always get uncomfortable too as if they are hiding something.

Bala Perdida
23rd May 2015, 15:16
This is definitely not anything small! FUCKING DIRTY SCUM WHO DON'T FLUSH! ESPECIALLY IN THE BEST GODDAMN STALL IN THE STORE!

mushroompizza
23rd May 2015, 15:34
"Insert genre of music that just became popular yesterday" is dead.

Sinister Intents
26th May 2015, 03:52
Getting patronized makes me want to punch the person in the face repeatedly

Bala Perdida
27th May 2015, 08:30
I hate when people are racist towards a certain ethnic group, and then they use their belonging to that ethnic group as an excuse for it. They don't even make it sound like they're joking, they confidently demean a group of people and don't even try to pass it off as a joke. Much less apologize for it.

Sewer Socialist
27th May 2015, 20:12
My job is apparently a "meritocracy." Cool story. What authority does not claim to be meritorious? :rolleyes:

Comrade Jacob
27th May 2015, 20:14
mushroompizza

Sinister Intents
29th May 2015, 19:26
If you're driving, and I'm in the car with you; putting the windows down all the way is going to ruin my hair. Putting them down part way is cool, but all the way equals: Fuck you.

The Intransigent Faction
30th May 2015, 20:45
mushroompizza

Wait, we're allowed to post usernames in here? In that case, sorry, but: RA89.
;)

Sinister Intents
30th May 2015, 21:10
The fact Rosa Partizan might hate me

RA89
30th May 2015, 21:21
Wait, we're allowed to post usernames in here? In that case, sorry, but: RA89.
;)

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/veronicaandbetty/DeanTear.gif

Sewer Socialist
30th May 2015, 22:58
this bumper sticker i see all the time
http://www.richgibson.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Obama-peace.gif

Sinister Intents
30th May 2015, 23:00
Redistribute the Rep (Just kidding, I love you <3)

rylasasin
1st June 2015, 11:20
People who don't use the edit button.

rylasasin
1st June 2015, 11:21
And then post another post right after it instead of editing the last post.

Sinister Intents
1st June 2015, 13:44
The Friendzone thread.

The Intransigent Faction
1st June 2015, 23:49
The fact that I slept for about 3 hours, as I usually do these days when I wake up early in the morning. That, and summer in my neighbourhood being what it is, there are a lot of obnoxiously noisy people.

Quail
2nd June 2015, 16:22
People who don't use the edit button.


And then post another post right after it instead of editing the last post.

Guilty.

Quail
2nd June 2015, 16:22
Oh, I forgot - that annoying fucking "whistle" text tone that everyone seems to have nowadays.

;)

motion denied
2nd June 2015, 16:29
Oh, I forgot - that annoying fucking "whistle" text tone that everyone seems to have nowadays.

;)

This ^

consuming negativity
6th June 2015, 22:05
i feel guilty for not reading radical literature like i want to, because of work

using my ability for self-discipline to refrain from making myself a better person and doing something i enjoy because i am compelled to sell my labor to live

fuck

A Revolutionary Tool
8th June 2015, 02:40
I absolutely hate it when a customer will ask for a meal and I say "do you want that small, medium, or large" and they decide to go with the fourth option I didn't give them "regular".

What's even more infuriating is when the customer realizes our "regular" size is the small size and they get all pissed off and ask for a medium. If you wanted a fucking medium you should have fucking said you wanted the medium when I asked you!

The Intransigent Faction
8th June 2015, 23:44
Someone resurrected an old discussion of Nietzsche on my Facebook wall, but I'm too fucking tired and jaded (as per usual on Mondays) to think hard enough to seriously contribute. There are also times when someone says something you might have said before you get the opportunity, leaving you feeling superfluous.

Brandon's Impotent Rage
9th June 2015, 00:27
Ketchup on hot dogs.

It's an abomination! :mad:

The Intransigent Faction
9th June 2015, 00:30
Ketchup on hot dogs.

It's an abomination! :mad:

Hot dogs are an abomination. I'll stick with my burger, thanks!

PhoenixAsh
9th June 2015, 01:02
Ketchup on fries....

Atsumari
9th June 2015, 01:54
Cream cheese with rice.

Sinister Intents
9th June 2015, 02:08
Yay, I had sex! That was the most exhilarating five seconds ever. I don't think I'll be doing that again

The Intransigent Faction
9th June 2015, 03:08
I feel so much more talkative when I'm tired, and I worry that I'm "sleep drunk" and just impulsively rambling on about shit I'll regret later. Ah well.

consuming negativity
10th June 2015, 06:15
I absolutely hate it when a customer will ask for a meal and I say "do you want that small, medium, or large" and they decide to go with the fourth option I didn't give them "regular".

What's even more infuriating is when the customer realizes our "regular" size is the small size and they get all pissed off and ask for a medium. If you wanted a fucking medium you should have fucking said you wanted the medium when I asked you!

regular means medium and you know it, as this post demonstrates

stop being a dick and just give them what they want

The Disillusionist
10th June 2015, 06:27
Oh, I forgot - that annoying fucking "whistle" text tone that everyone seems to have nowadays.

;)

I remember very well the first time I started hearing that whistle. I remember, because it had me paranoid that some whistling person was following me. I was looking over my shoulder and sneaking around trying to find this person.

The Disillusionist
10th June 2015, 06:37
"ultra super annoying" when used by men you assert to be middle-aged is worth noting because of what?

Apparently you are quite the bourgeois, traditionalist in your thinking. Something I hope never befalls me.

This... Not everything you don't like is freaking bourgeois, traditionalist, reactionary, or bigoted. Jesus freakin' Christ, give it a rest.

I don't direct this specifically at you Tim, your post just provided an excellent example.

Oh, and traditional Marxists. Always. They irritate me almost as much as anarcho-capitalists.

Quail
10th June 2015, 14:01
I'm outside typing this, and the sun is making my keyboard keys uncomfortably hot to the touch.

Zoop
10th June 2015, 14:10
The noises people make when eating. I can become homicidal upon hearing it. :sneaky:

PhoenixAsh
10th June 2015, 14:45
^ I relate. Depends on the people though.

The Intransigent Faction
10th June 2015, 21:54
That awkward point when you feel like you should end a conversation, but it drags on instead.

Sinister Intents
10th June 2015, 22:06
This^^^

Also fuck cronyism.

Comrade Jacob
10th June 2015, 22:09
Yay, I had sex! That was the most exhilarating five seconds ever. I don't think I'll be doing that again

5 seconds more than I'll ever have

Sinister Intents
10th June 2015, 22:14
5 seconds more than I'll ever have

You don't know that :)

Also I appreciate sex with my girlfriend, but I'm so embarrassed of how fast I climax.

Comrade Jacob
10th June 2015, 22:16
You don't know that :)

Also I appreciate sex with my girlfriend, but I'm so embarrassed of how fast I climax.

continue even if you have climaxed, fo yo gurl

Sinister Intents
10th June 2015, 22:19
continue even if you have climaxed, fo yo gurl

I do! But she wants more than oral. My getting off too fast usually turns her right off.

Also you're 17 right?

Comrade Jacob
10th June 2015, 22:20
I do! But she wants more than oral. My getting off too fast usually turns her right off.

Also you're 17 right?

Yes...I'm legal in my country btw

Sinister Intents
10th June 2015, 22:30
Yes...I'm legal in my country btw

Huh? Age of consent laws?

I lost my virginity days after my birthday when I was 21. Virginity means nothing, and my father paid for me to see go to a strip club and dragged me along and ended up paying for me to have sex with a stripper. Not proud of that at all. I was drunk, stoned, and on coke.

Idk lost my place, what I'm saying is that virginity means shit and wait until you're with someone you're in a stable relationship for consentual and fulfilling sex.

Antiochus
10th June 2015, 22:36
Yay, I had sex! That was the most exhilarating five seconds ever. I don't think I'll be doing that again

0.o You're not doing it right.

lololololol Wait you're a guy? Either way your dad sounds like a nice guy, lmao.

Sinister Intents
10th June 2015, 22:47
0.o You're not doing it right.

lololololol Wait you're a guy? Either way your dad sounds like a nice guy, lmao.

I'm a women and I have a penis, I'm transgender; MTF.

What makes my dad awesome?.....

Sentinel
10th June 2015, 23:21
People who act like the world just ended when the free wifi hasn't been working for a couple of minutes.

Customer: "Wifi doesn't work, it hasn't for a really long time!"
"Unfortunately there is a malfunction and there is nothing I can do about it right now (quarter past midnight), you just have to wait a while and it will eventually reconnect. I'm sorry."

*silence and stupid helpless stare from customer*

Me: "Yes, so was there something else I can help you with?"
Customer: (Looks at phone) "But.. what am I to do now..?!"

How about having some fun on your cruise, hitting the bars, partying.. It's not like we never had anything to do back when teletext was the closest thing to internet in existence. Jesus.

Redistribute the Rep
10th June 2015, 23:29
A lot of people's work and school stuff depends on wifi nowadays. It can be pretty damaging if it goes off at the wrong time

BIXX
10th June 2015, 23:33
When you got used to how shit your normal managers are and have found ways to fuck with them or not do your job then a new one comes along and fucks up your whole routine

Fuck you, new Manager Trainee, fuck you and your family and your friends and all your stories about weightlifting

The Intransigent Faction
10th June 2015, 23:43
A lot of people's work and school stuff depends on wifi nowadays. It can be pretty damaging if it goes off at the wrong time

This, although yelling at people who can't do anything about it won't make it work again.

Sentinel
11th June 2015, 00:01
It was mostly that it is in the middle of the night, and (which I guess I didn't mention) on a cruise ship in the middle of the sea, that reduced my sympathy for the "disaster". If I had something extremely important going on online, I wouldn't count on a crappy ships wifi working in such circumstances, especially as it isn't guaranteed anywhere either.

But yeah mostly I'm just venting my general annoyance with the human race, which seems to surface expecially strong in the beginning of these 10-day shifts as ships receptionist (on the number one party ship in these waters). This customer was actually only half-drunk, and came by later and was nice so I feel a bit bad now.

Sinister Intents
11th June 2015, 03:37
Not getting cuddles from my mini dachshund

Antiochus
11th June 2015, 05:41
and my father paid for me to see go to a strip club and dragged me along and ended up paying

That is why. Off course idk.

The Intransigent Faction
12th June 2015, 18:12
Pretty sure I have a cold. Ugh. Time to get some soup and find something decent to watch.

I understand the science at least superficially. I know there are many, many different strains of the "common cold". One would still think that there would be some sort of commonality that would make them all curable, though. The idea that we're working on cures for seemingly far more complex diseases and can't even cure a mild medical annoyance is counter-intuitive and bizarre to me no matter how many different times or ways I've heard it explained. They also hamper productivity, but then again the cold medicine business is incredibly lucrative.

Quail
12th June 2015, 18:42
There are these guys who live around the corner from me, and they're just kind of general inconsiderate wankers. They're always sitting outside talking and laughing really loudly, even when it's late. I saw them throwing stones at each other near my partner's car, and the next day there's a huge chip in her windscreen... which they denied when she approached them about it. Also they just have a general air of privileged dickhead about them.

The Intransigent Faction
12th June 2015, 19:05
There are these guys who live around the corner from me, and they're just kind of general inconsiderate wankers. They're always sitting outside talking and laughing really loudly, even when it's late. I saw them throwing stones at each other near my partner's car, and the next day there's a huge chip in her windscreen... which they denied when she approached them about it. Also they just have a general air of privileged dickhead about them.

That's pretty much my neighbourhood in a nutshell. It makes me dread summer. I'm always tempted to complain about the noise, but once I've worked up the nerve it tends to be gone.

Once it gets to that point, though (throwing stones, or leaving broken beer bottles on the pavement as I've seen here occasionally), I'd say it's past time to stop putting up with it.

Sentinel
12th June 2015, 21:30
Not a fucking day goes by anymore without some stupid fucking racist thinking that "too many" passengers of immigrant origin onboard the cruise ship is an issue to complain over at the reception.

"This will be the last time I travel with you!"
"Oh, I'm sorry to hear that, has something happened?"
"This isn't Sweden anymore!"
"You're right, we're just about to cross over to Finland..".
"Ehh, you don't get what I'm saying, do you?"
"Oh yes I do, I just have no interest in having that discussion with you."

Fucking Stalin died too young. :mad:

Sinister Intents
13th June 2015, 00:12
My rep don't grow much

Thanks Brad, RtR, and a few others for actually thanking my posts :)

Bala Perdida
13th June 2015, 08:58
I got out of work less than an hour ago. I get back in less than 5 hours from now. I wake up less than 4 hrs from now, aaaaaaand my herpes cold sore is starting to show.

Sinister Intents
14th June 2015, 04:11
When someone says "fleek"

Os Cangaceiros
14th June 2015, 04:25
The noises people make when eating. I can become homicidal upon hearing it. :sneaky:

Noisy eating is a massive pet peeve of mine.

Sinister Intents
14th June 2015, 14:46
Don't fucking touch me if you haven't washed your hands :mad:

consuming negativity
15th June 2015, 15:14
i had to go on actual facebook (not the chat app on my phone) for the first time in a while and oh my fucking god i remember exactly why i stopped going

man, i thought revleft was stupid, these people are fucking DUMB oh my FUCKING GOD it's amazing that they are capable of operating machinery and having children

we are so fucked

jesus fucking christ WHY DID WE FUCKING MAKE IT SO THAT IT ISN'T REALISTIC TO GO OUT IN THE WOODS AND JUST LIVE IN A GODDAMN CAVE BY MYSELF WHY WHY WHY DID YOU FUCK EVERYTHING UP GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I HATE THESE IDIOTS LEAVE ME ALONE

PhoenixAsh
15th June 2015, 15:28
^ That could totally go on Facebook as passive agressive status update #10 ;)

Comrade Njordr
15th June 2015, 18:55
Could say the same thing about YouTube comments. Bloody hell are those fuckers stupid.

Quail
16th June 2015, 09:21
My phone changed all its settings in my pocket grrrrrrr. Piece of shit smartphone. I miss the simplicity of older phones.

The Intransigent Faction
17th June 2015, 07:50
My phone changed all its settings in my pocket grrrrrrr. Piece of shit smartphone. I miss the simplicity of older phones.

Cellphones in general annoy me. I've had the same phone for about 6 years, which used to be my sister's and which I only got in case of emergencies. Even if it weren't a pain to pay for, I wouldn't care enough to get a new one.

Counterculturalist
17th June 2015, 11:25
I got my first smart phone (and in fact my first cellphone) less than two years ago. I was a total luddite when it came to smart phones. I thought texting was idiotic. The only reason I got it was because I was moving to Toronto and wanted to be able to keep in touch with my girlfriend, and the person I was moving in with didn't have a landline.

Now I hate the fact that whenever I have a moment of downtime I check my phone. I miss being able to be alone with my thoughts.

Quail
17th June 2015, 18:34
Now I hate the fact that whenever I have a moment of downtime I check my phone. I miss being able to be alone with my thoughts.

I deliberately didn't download the facebook app on my phone for this reason, but then I just started checking it on the browser *facepalm*

I check revleft too.

Quail
17th June 2015, 18:34
Also, I cleaned the floors today and then my son came home and trod mud everywhere. What is even the point in cleaning?

Ceallach_the_Witch
17th June 2015, 20:43
i find cleaning more or less serves to reinforce my underlying suspicious about the humiliating futility of existence, also my irritating tendency to continue existing under such circumstances

Zoop
20th June 2015, 23:04
Gold diggers. These shallow shit-stains really piss me off. Judging people based on how much money they have. Fuck off you dregs.

Rosa Partizan
20th June 2015, 23:37
elbow patches. They're so disgusting I wanna beat the shit out of everyone wearing them, srsly.

Os Cangaceiros
21st June 2015, 08:20
i find cleaning more or less serves to reinforce my underlying suspicious about the humiliating futility of existence, also my irritating tendency to continue existing under such circumstances

I find cleaning to be oddly therapeutic...I think just because it's a monotonous activity that you can focus your concentration on.

Ele'ill
25th June 2015, 18:54
an overwhelming number of people at the gym today talking together about how women should be limited to the number of kids they have based on income and the government should intervene and sterilize them if they don't make enough and continue to have kids in an effort to stop women from having kids in order to get rich on hand outs.

Their basis for this belief are gems like 'i have friends who...' and 'i know people who have done this because they're lazy..' and 'if you work hard..' and 'our taxes go to...'


Of course the main example the one person brought up made no sense and was a lie, which made me wonder psychologically why people make things up like this. They said their good friend was having kids to get on section 8 housing here and that she had a nicer place than her now and only paid 100 a month and lots of perks etc.. and that it all got better with each kid. Unfortunately section 8 housing is or was for a long time stalled out at like a 9 year wait list and was closed, I believe it was opened recently to some extent on a revised lottery system but the housing just isn't there. This is of course regardless if someone is working 2 jobs since the rent+daycare and other major expenses are way above what is offered employment-wise.

consuming negativity
25th June 2015, 20:15
barack obama keeps sending me spam emails that go into my inbox

Counterculturalist
25th June 2015, 20:35
Of course the main example the one person brought up made no sense and was a lie, which made me wonder psychologically why people make things up like this.

This is a really common tactic among reactionaries, and it's infuriating.

I was once making small talk with some dude on the bus, and he suddenly launched into a diatribe about "pakis coming to this country and getting rich." I told him I don't really think that happens, and he was ready with an anecdote about how he personally witnessed a "rich paki" drive up to a welfare office in a brand new Mustang, change from his $1000 suit into ragged clothing, give his wife all of his jewelry to hang onto, and come out with a check for five grand.

There's also a woman on my facebook who somehow "personally knows" all kinds of people who are constantly bullied, harassed and "reported for discrimination" by a legion of hijab-sporting Muslim women.

The thing about these stories is, despite their obvious absurdity, how do you argue against them? Just flat-out call people liars?

The Intransigent Faction
26th June 2015, 23:01
Charter challenge dies as Supreme Court of Canada refuses to hear the landmark case arguing that homelessness violates the right to “security of the person.”
...
In a motion to block the case from going forward, the federal and provincial governments argues that the Charter does not include a general right to housing or oblige governments to provide social assistance and housing support. Moreover, economic and social policies are political matters beyond the scope of the court, they added.

Hahahahahahahahaha...BULLSHIT.

consuming negativity
28th June 2015, 22:37
This is a really common tactic among reactionaries, and it's infuriating.

I was once making small talk with some dude on the bus, and he suddenly launched into a diatribe about "pakis coming to this country and getting rich." I told him I don't really think that happens, and he was ready with an anecdote about how he personally witnessed a "rich paki" drive up to a welfare office in a brand new Mustang, change from his $1000 suit into ragged clothing, give his wife all of his jewelry to hang onto, and come out with a check for five grand.

There's also a woman on my facebook who somehow "personally knows" all kinds of people who are constantly bullied, harassed and "reported for discrimination" by a legion of hijab-sporting Muslim women.

The thing about these stories is, despite their obvious absurdity, how do you argue against them? Just flat-out call people liars?

i like to think that the more intelligent people are able to recognize it as bullshit

the dumber ones, well...

there's not much that can be done

Counterculturalist
29th June 2015, 00:24
i like to think that the more intelligent people are able to recognize it as bullshit

the dumber ones, well...

there's not much that can be done

Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

I guess I was more wondering what sort of arguments one could make to change the minds of the people who tell these tall tales. The easiest and most honest way would be to say "you made that story up, asshole." But I don't think that would do much to change their bullshit opinions.

I suppose I should just face the fact that you can't reach everybody.

The Intransigent Faction
29th June 2015, 08:07
An acquaintance asked for book recommendations. I listed a few, and some douche piped up and suggested Atlas Shrugged because


Haven't yet read any of her work, but she sounds like she's saying "screw communism, I hated it", not "people who have never lived in communism need to become increasingly selfish".

:rolleyes:

Sinister Intents
3rd July 2015, 14:10
This is more than annoyance, but whenever you're with someone who is drunk out in public around a bunch a people you've never seen before and this person nearly outs your identity to a bunch of strangers. I'm not angry with this dude, he's so cool, but he was so drunk. I highly appreciate being gendered right, but around potentially harmful people NO lol.

Quail
4th July 2015, 11:45
There's an EDL demo today as well as pride happening, and someone just posted this ridiculous gem about it:

I find the edl abhorrent but can't believe that people on here are complaining about their right to have a voice and to be open about their way of life. It's not too long ago that gay people were being shamed for shouting about their way of life when the public support was against them. But they kept shouting and in the end people heard them. What right do me and you have to judge their fight any differently?
What a fucking absurd thing to say. This is the logical conclusion of uncritical "free speech".

PhoenixAsh
4th July 2015, 12:21
My girlfriends repeated statements that she is not jealous while acting extremely jealous

The Intransigent Faction
5th July 2015, 03:23
There's an EDL demo today as well as pride happening, and someone just posted this ridiculous gem about it:

What a fucking absurd thing to say. This is the logical conclusion of uncritical "free speech".

That's a ridiculous comparison of diametrically opposed movements. As for the logical conclusion of free speech, though, I've read that there was a counter-protest that dwarfed a recent fascist demo in London.

Bala Perdida
5th July 2015, 05:55
I got a few:
Me going to a local tattoo shop to finally get this long process of procrastinating over with and getting this custom sheet plastered on me. Only to have the tattoo shop be closed because of yankee power day.

Me trying to play video games for the first time in months only to have the game freeze while loading after 40 minutes of updates.

Listening to bullshit fake 'open minded' people talk about a subject that they have no experience in as if they're fucking experts, and all they're really doing is prattling the existing narrative or some crap you like.
'fasting diets don't work, your body needs constant nutrition. Food corporations have no influence over dietary patterns, that's conspiracy theories'
Seriously? Even people with a basic (hate this word) leftist understanding of lobbyists know how much influence that crap has on mainstream dietary patterns.
'you have to work out like me, you're not getting results, you only do ten lifts with each arm, you're only at a station for five minutes'
Yeah, that's called working out. You rotate stations, you do sets. This is why I'm seeing results and you look the same. God, don't even work out at all and acting as if you're a damn fitness expert.

Ro Laren
5th July 2015, 06:07
Being uncomfortable while trying to read, but then if I'm too comfortable I fall asleep.

But somehow I can spend hours intensely focused, reading smutty fanfiction(I'm so lonely :crying:) in bed at night with my arms falling asleep and my neck aching from holding my phone in weird positions.

Sinister Intents
7th July 2015, 12:12
If a pattern gets broken or something is out of line it bugs me, but my room and car being untidy doesn't bug me. I annoy myself :/

Cliff Paul
7th July 2015, 12:56
neck acne

I am too old for your shit!

Sinister Intents
7th July 2015, 13:04
neck acne

I am too old for your shit!

I've had severe acne problems since I was 12 so I can totally relate

Ro Laren
9th July 2015, 06:18
I'm always so thirsty right before bed but then if I drink I have to piss at some point. Which means rather than getting up to piss, I lay in bed half asleep, the feeling of having to piss keeping me awake but not awake enough to actually get out of bed to go pee.

StromboliFucker666
9th July 2015, 07:45
Talking behind somones back. Co workers will try to do that shit with me about other workers and I'll get fucking annoyed as hell.

Atsumari
9th July 2015, 08:41
Lizzy the Lezzy's Facebook posts

Quail
9th July 2015, 16:50
Lizzy the Lezzy's Facebook posts

Also, George Takei's facebook posts. He used to post some fairly okay stuff, but now he just posts rubbish links to worthless time-wasting websites making jokes which rely on outdated sexist stereotypes. Ugh.

StromboliFucker666
9th July 2015, 20:33
Almost all facebook posts that aren't from my close friends and loved ones. Even their posts get annoying after a bit.

Quail
17th July 2015, 16:25
When my phone has 10% battery left, but in less than 5 minutes it's completely dead. Why, phone, why?

Thirsty Crow
17th July 2015, 17:28
Snoring. But not that all-out-war snorefest which shakes the ground, oh no - much worse is the gentle, polite, light and all too audible snoring-lite. The former is bad but goddamn, there's just something infuriating about the latter.

Had a good friend crash at my place for two nights. No sleep whatsoever. Now working on repressing all those murder fantasies :lol:

Ro Laren
24th July 2015, 06:33
My job instituted a new policy where the only bag we're allowed to have is a small clear plastic one they provide us(with a $5 replacement fee). I so badly want to fill it completely with tampons and make a big production about it, but I won't, because I'm clinging to the ridiculous hope I might get a promotion someday.

I am pathetic. :glare:

Atsumari
24th July 2015, 06:45
Pansexuality an pansexuals in general.

jullia
24th July 2015, 12:27
Pansexuality an pansexuals in general.

I never get what it is exactly.:confused:

StromboliFucker666
27th July 2015, 07:22
the singer of linkin park

his voice annoys be beyond belief

Quail
27th July 2015, 07:24
Pansexuality an pansexuals in general.

Why is that?

The Intransigent Faction
27th July 2015, 07:24
the singer of linkin park

his voice annoys be beyond belief

Meh...I don't find him that bad.
Billy Talent's singer, on the other hand...

StromboliFucker666
27th July 2015, 07:38
Meh...I don't find him that bad.
Billy Talent's singer, on the other hand...
dont get me wrong, he's a nice enough dude but when he starts to sing i just want to bash my face into the floor. the other dude that raps is bearable

the only linkin park song i like is no roads left


Billy talent's singer makes my heart hurt with his shitty singing "skills"

Atsumari
27th July 2015, 07:50
Why is that?
It's just a more specific branch of bisexuality. Every time I hear someone explain it, I acknowledge the differences, but I just wonder why? I used to do the same thing at one point until I realized I could've just said "bisexual with specific tastes"

A Revolutionary Tool
27th July 2015, 10:56
I hate it when I'll try and tell a joke you have to pay attention to with a little plot and stuff and nobody gets it but I can say the stupidest shit that doesn't make sense and people start cracking up. Like this morning I was at the gas station and I got a Gatorade and a lighter, something I wouldn't need a bag for usually so when I asked for one I felt a little weird and felt like I needed to make something up to justify me taking a bag. So I looked at the lady with an awkward look on my face probably and told her "I like to collect bags," and she just starts laughing uncontrollably. wtf is this, I don't even know why I blurted that out but apparently that's comedy gold! I must look really funny.

Quail
27th July 2015, 14:47
It's just a more specific branch of bisexuality. Every time I hear someone explain it, I acknowledge the differences, but I just wonder why? I used to do the same thing at one point until I realized I could've just said "bisexual with specific tastes"

I'm not sure I understand why people feel the need to make the distinction either, but I wouldn't begrudge someone their identity. I think a lot of people have the mistaken idea that bisexuality is somehow transphobic or upholds the gender binary, but I've never met a bisexual person who only likes cisgender people or who only likes people of two genders. The word "pansexual" doesn't allow for that kind of false interpretation.

Zoop
27th July 2015, 15:42
It's just a more specific branch of bisexuality. Every time I hear someone explain it, I acknowledge the differences, but I just wonder why?

I'm not sure I understand why people feel the need to make the distinction either.

Uhm, because the distinction exists. There are significant differences between bisexuality and pansexuality, and each group faces unique problems and challenges. To merge them together, and to deny the distinction, is to deny reality, and to mash a group of people into a category which they don't belong to and don't identify with is simply bizarre.

Comrade Jacob
27th July 2015, 16:06
My little siblings :mad:

Quail
27th July 2015, 17:15
Uhm, because the distinction exists. There are significant differences between bisexuality and pansexuality, and each group faces unique problems and challenges. To merge them together, and to deny the distinction, is to deny reality, and to mash a group of people into a category which they don't belong to and don't identify with is simply bizarre.

I used to identify as bisexual even though pansexual would also have applied. It made life easier because people usually know what bisexual means even if they've never heard of pansexuality. I'm not sure what kinds of problems and challenges one group faces that the other doesn't though... As far as identities go, they're pretty similar. Identifying as pansexual seems to be more of a political stance against transphobia/binarism than anything. Which is fair enough, but it's also important to recognise that identifying as bisexual doesn't automatically make a person transphobic/binarist/attracted to two genders only.

Zoop
27th July 2015, 20:20
I used to identify as bisexual even though pansexual would also have applied. It made life easier because people usually know what bisexual means even if they've never heard of pansexuality.
Well, that's the problems with labels I guess, but there is a difference, even though it can get murky. Generally speaking though, gender isn't a significant factor in determining pansexual attraction, whereas it is with bisexuality. That's why pansexuals are usually called gender blind.

I'm not sure what kinds of problems and challenges one group faces that the other doesn't though... As far as identities go, they're pretty similar.
Well, seen as though there are significant differences, each group is going to face different problems, specifically when it comes to the relationship each one has with gender. You know when bisexuals are called greedy? Well, just think how pansexuals are viewed...

Identifying as pansexual seems to be more of a political stance against transphobia/binarism than anything. Which is fair enough
No, it's a real sexual identity, but one that, for obvious reasons, is naturally averse to transphobia. People think it's more of a political stance because it so often has to battle against bigotry. Viewing pansexuality as a political stance against transphobia is akin to saying that homosexuality is a political stance against homophobia.

but it's also important to recognise that identifying as bisexual doesn't automatically make a person transphobic/binarist/attracted to two genders only.
Well, I've never really heard anyone say that, but it's obviously wrong. That would mean that everyone who isn't a pansexual would be transphobic. But, if people do say that, then you have answered your own question regarding the unique problems each group faces, because in this case, bisexuals would be considered transphobic, whereas pansexuals wouldn't.

The Intransigent Faction
27th July 2015, 22:15
dont get me wrong, he's a nice enough dude but when he starts to sing i just want to bash my face into the floor. the other dude that raps is bearable

the only linkin park song i like is no roads left


Billy talent's singer makes my heart hurt with his shitty singing "skills"

To be fair, when you're accustomed to hearing Dax Riggs, the bar is set pretty high. ;)

Anywho:

Something small that annoys the shit out of me for no good reason: Nostalgia. I've dealt with a lot of intense feelings and I can say without reservation that nostalgia's been the most painful. It's also the most intense in those quiet moments before I sleep, and I worry that I'm going to spend my life perpetually trying to run away from it.

StromboliFucker666
28th July 2015, 08:01
To be fair, when you're accustomed to hearing Dax Riggs, the bar is set pretty high. ;)

Anywho:

Something small that annoys the shit out of me for no good reason: Nostalgia. I've dealt with a lot of intense feelings and I can say without reservation that nostalgia's been the most painful. It's also the most intense in those quiet moments before I sleep, and I worry that I'm going to spend my life perpetually trying to run away from it.

Dax is a badass.

I agree with you about nostalgia. I can't stand it.

Quail
28th July 2015, 10:03
As I said above people can identify how they want, although I think ideally bi/pansexuals would work together since the problems they face are so similar.
Well, that's the problems with labels I guess, but there is a difference, even though it can get murky. Generally speaking though, gender isn't a significant factor in determining pansexual attraction, whereas it is with bisexuality. That's why pansexuals are usually called gender blind.

I'll leave the rest of the post, but I have to admit this bit confuses me. If you're bisexual and attracted to all genders, I'm not sure I understand how gender is a significant factor in determining attraction?

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
28th July 2015, 10:30
To be honest, I find the proliferation of "orientations" in the last, maybe, five years, to be annoying. I mean, it's gotten to the point that every sexual preference is its own "orientation" now. I have a foot fetish but mostly concerning female feet (because ugh most male feet), and there's probably someone on the Internet who has the same preferences and has invented a term for his "orientation" and written at least one article about how it is different from bisexuality and has its own "problems", most of which are completely imagined. (And there are at least ten people whetting their knives now because I used the term 'female' and biological sex doesn't exist.)

I think orientation is a pretty useless term in any case. It makes sense to distinguish heterosexual behaviour from others because behaviour other than heterosexual carries consequences from exclusion and poverty to fucking death (also who wants to hang out with straight people?), but this neurotic jungle of labels is just ridiculous.

Zoop
28th July 2015, 12:10
As I said above people can identify how they want
It's because that is who they are. They aren't just making up labels.

although I think ideally bi/pansexuals would work together since the problems they face are so similar.
I do too. It doesn't change the fact that they both face unique problems, as wonderfully demonstrated by this thread.

I'll leave the rest of the post
Why?

but I have to admit this bit confuses me. If you're bisexual and attracted to all genders, I'm not sure I understand how gender is a significant factor in determining attraction?
Well, because gender is the attractive element. But, technically, that wouldn't really be considered bisexuality. There are grey areas as well, existing between bisexuality and pansexuality.

To be honest, I find the proliferation of "orientations" in the last, maybe, five years, to be annoying.
Nobody cares.

I mean, it's gotten to the point that every sexual preference is its own "orientation" now. I have a foot fetish but mostly concerning female feet (because ugh most male feet), and there's probably someone on the Internet who has the same preferences and has invented a term for his "orientation" and written at least one article about how it is different from bisexuality and has its own "problems", most of which are completely imagined.
Yes, because we all know that sexual orientations are comparable to fetishes. Sigh.

I think orientation is a pretty useless term in any case. It makes sense to distinguish heterosexual behaviour from others because behaviour other than heterosexual carries consequences from exclusion and poverty to fucking death (also who wants to hang out with straight people?), but this neurotic jungle of labels is just ridiculous.
Uhm, no. It makes sense to distinguish between them because they exist.

A Revolutionary Tool
28th July 2015, 13:15
What is the distinguishment between bisexuality and pansexuality Zoop, because I don't get it and I don't know what specific problems they have.

Zoop
28th July 2015, 13:45
What is the distinguishment between bisexuality and pansexuality Zoop, because I don't get it and I don't know what specific problems they have.

It's difficult to settle on exact definitions but there are significant differences:

Bisexuality implies that gender does influence attraction, whereas with pansexuality, gender does not play a significant part, meaning that they are either attracted to all genders, or that gender plays no part at all i.e. they are gender blind.

As for the specific problems they both face, well, just look at this thread and the reactionary shite people are spewing.

Hermes
28th July 2015, 13:54
As for the specific problems they both face, well, just look at this thread and the reactionary shite people are spewing.

The only thing I see people posting about pansexuality is confusion, not reaction, to be honest.


It's difficult to settle on exact definitions but there are significant differences:

Bisexuality implies that gender does influence attraction, whereas with pansexuality, gender does not play a significant part, meaning that they are either attracted to all genders, or that gender plays no part at all i.e. they are gender blind.

What's the difference between pansexuals and bisexuals that are attracted equally to both/all genders, then? I've never understood how pansexuality is distinct from bisexuality instead of rather being a specific descriptor underneath an umbrella term.

Thirsty Crow
28th July 2015, 14:04
What's the difference between pansexuals and bisexuals that are attracted equally to both/all genders, then? I've never understood how pansexuality is distinct from bisexuality instead of rather being a specific descriptor underneath an umbrella term.
I've also been thinking about this recently, and it seems to me that this is better viewed through the lens of gender expression/performance and gender repudiation than gender identity.

The argument would go like this: bisexual people are attracted to socially normative gender expressions - pertaining to both sexes. Gender fluidity would not enter the picture here, and effectively other kinds of gender expression (or gender repudiation) would be excluded from the scope of felt attraction.

Which isn't simple and it surely isn't unproblematic, if for nothing else than for the fact that "bisexuality" refers to sex primarily (and that's also not simple and unproblematic) and not gender expression. That way "pansexuality" can serve as a more detailed descriptor, as you say, but one that is distinct since it focuses on a different set of phenomena in relation to "bisexuality". We could draw an analogy between biological genera and species; the latter is surely distinct, but subsumed under the former.

Quail
28th July 2015, 14:26
It's because that is who they are. They aren't just making up labels.

I do too. It doesn't change the fact that they both face unique problems, as wonderfully demonstrated by this thread.

Why?

Well, because gender is the attractive element. But, technically, that wouldn't really be considered bisexuality. There are grey areas as well, existing between bisexuality and pansexuality.

I didn't have time earlier (and I'm on my phone so typing is a bit of a hassle).
I feel as though "gender is the attractive element" especially doesn't make sense for bisexuals, but doesn't really apply to anyone else either. I'm not attracted to my partner because of her gender... you don't look at people and think "oh wow,I love their gender" and if you're in love with someone, unless you're trying to repress part of your sexuality, gender doesn't play a part in that either.
As far as unique problems go, I'd argue bisexuals and pansexuals experience basically the same stuff... homophobia from wider society and distrust from the queer community. They're on the same spectrum of being attracted to all genders.

Hermes
28th July 2015, 14:47
I've also been thinking about this recently, and it seems to me that this is better viewed through the lens of gender expression/performance and gender repudiation than gender identity.

The argument would go like this: bisexual people are attracted to socially normative gender expressions - pertaining to both sexes. Gender fluidity would not enter the picture here, and effectively other kinds of gender expression (or gender repudiation) would be excluded from the scope of felt attraction.

Which isn't simple and it surely isn't unproblematic, if for nothing else than for the fact that "bisexuality" refers to sex primarily (and that's also not simple and unproblematic) and not gender expression. That way "pansexuality" can serve as a more detailed descriptor, as you say, but one that is distinct since it focuses on a different set of phenomena in relation to "bisexuality". We could draw an analogy between biological genera and species; the latter is surely distinct, but subsumed under the former.

I guess I'm just really unqualified to have this discussion.

I am, or consider myself to be, bisexual, but I've never really had any contact with that community, or the queer community in general - I've never known that bisexuals were only attracted to "socially normative gender expression," or that gender fluidity was a determinant in whether or not one would be sexually attracted to another (obviously I recognized that it existed within the gay and straight communities, but not other than that).

So, I guess I was just speaking from a position of complete ignorance, my apologies.

Thirsty Crow
28th July 2015, 14:52
I guess I'm just really unqualified to have this discussion.

I am, or consider myself to be, bisexual, but I've never really had any contact with that community, or the queer community in general - I've never known that bisexuals were only attracted to "socially normative gender expression," or that gender fluidity was a determinant in whether or not one would be sexually attracted to another (obviously I recognized that it existed within the gay and straight communities, but not other than that).

So, I guess I was just speaking from a position of complete ignorance, my apologies.
I think you misunderstood my point - what I wrote is really provisional and one possible argument (not sure if I'd advance it with certainty). It seems I'm in the same boat, not really qualified, and I'm not saying bisexual people are usually attracted to socially normative gender expressions (that wouldn't hold for myself as well). In fact, I don't think this is a good argument at all; the overall point would be that pansexuality as a concept is much broader and includes also gender expression/repudiation in the scope of attraction, while bisexuality is more simple insofar as it doesn't relate to gender at all.

Quail
28th July 2015, 15:08
The argument would go like this: bisexual people are attracted to socially normative gender expressions - pertaining to both sexes. Gender fluidity would not enter the picture here, and effectively other kinds of gender expression (or gender repudiation) would be excluded from the scope of felt attraction.


If this is indeed the argument, then it's a bullshit misconception of what bisexuality actually means... The term bisexual may have come from a time when people thought of gender as more of a binary than a spectrum, but identifying as bisexual definitely doesn't mean that you're only attracted to feminine women and masculine men. I don't think it ever has meant that. There might be transphobic bisexual people, but bisexuality doesn't inherently involve transphobia and buying into the gender binary. This is why I'm sceptical of making the distinction that pansexuality is "gender-blindness" whereas bisexuality is attraction to all genders while still placing some kind of value on gender. The notion that "love knows no gender" applies to bisexuals as much as it does to pansexuals.

So maybe I'm just defending a former identity that still feels dear to me from unfounded criticism.

Thirsty Crow
28th July 2015, 15:20
The notion that "love knows no gender" applies to bisexuals as much as it does to pansexuals.

I dunno about that. Such broad definitions run the risk of necessarily excluding some people who are bisexual - such as myself for instance ("masculine" men, only attraction as this interacts with romantic attachment orientation - which in my case is very probably exclusively heteroromantic).

If it does apply as much, then what's the plausible difference between the two?

Quail
28th July 2015, 15:34
I suppose in that case then "gender-blind love" could be seen as a subset of bisexuality... If pansexuality is attraction to the broadest possible range of people, then some bisexuals might not fit that definition, but of course many do. I hadn't really considered the cases where romantic and sexual orientation don't match up, though many people who that applies to consider themselves straight/gay, e.g. a lesbian who occasionally sleeps with men... I don't think labels are black and white or easy to define. If there was a label for every kind of sexual/romantic preference then we'd all have to make up our own personalised individual label. To me it makes more sense to group ourselves in ways that are politically useful - to fight homophobia, or discrimination against non-monosexuals. It can be nice to have a community to identify with, but sexuality (and gender) are fluid, so if you're not careful you can waste a lot of time and emotional energy agonising about which box to put yourself in.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
28th July 2015, 23:29
Nobody cares.

Well, you seem to. You seem to care a lot, claiming that not showing the proper deference to this new identity (and it is a new identity; without Judith Butler and the Internet there would be no pansexuals, demisexuals or whatever identity people take up these days) is reactionary.


Yes, because we all know that sexual orientations are comparable to fetishes. Sigh.

Oh, and what's the difference? This should be interesting.


Uhm, no. It makes sense to distinguish between them because they exist.

People with green eyes and a black right shoe exist, as well as people who do not have both green eyes and a black right shoe, obviously. This does not mean that dividing people into those who have green eyes and a black right shoe and those who do not, or adopting an identity as someone with green eyes and a black right shoe, makes sense. In fact if people started doing that I would worry they've lost it.

No matter what identity people adopt (which, despite what an influential stratum of upwardly-mobile young liberals might claim, is not the most important thing in politics), the material facts of oppression, or power relations and the mode in which society is reproduced don't care if you are attracted to masculinity or femininity or are properly "gender-blind" (since transphobia has been mentioned, most transwomen I know like to be complemented on their femininity, and I imagine the same holds for a lot of trans* people), if you behave outside the heterosexual norm you still get metaphorically rapped across your knuckles.

Zoop
29th July 2015, 00:20
Well, you seem to. You seem to care a lot, claiming that not showing the proper deference to this new identity (and it is a new identity; without Judith Butler and the Internet there would be no pansexuals, demisexuals or whatever identity people take up these days) is reactionary.
I said nobody cares that you find it annoying. Your annoyance is a triviality so insignificant that I became severely indifferent and bored upon reading it. That's what I was referring to.

Oh, and what's the difference? This should be interesting.
Is that a serious question? Because, fuck, I think it is.

People with green eyes and a black right shoe exist, as well as people who do not have both green eyes and a black right shoe, obviously. This does not mean that dividing people into those who have green eyes and a black right shoe and those who do not, or adopting an identity as someone with green eyes and a black right shoe, makes sense. In fact if people started doing that I would worry they've lost it.
Yes, because dividing people up into trivial categories is really useful isn't it. Sexual orientation, however, is not trivial.

No matter what identity people adopt (which, despite what an influential stratum of upwardly-mobile young liberals might claim, is not the most important thing in politics), the material facts of oppression, or power relations and the mode in which society is reproduced don't care if you are attracted to masculinity or femininity or are properly "gender-blind" (since transphobia has been mentioned, most transwomen I know like to be complemented on their femininity, and I imagine the same holds for a lot of trans* people), if you behave outside the heterosexual norm you still get metaphorically rapped across your knuckles.
Well done. Great insight. It, however, has nothing to do with anything that I have been saying.

Chin up and try again.

Zoop
29th July 2015, 00:30
I didn't have time earlier (and I'm on my phone so typing is a bit of a hassle).
I feel as though "gender is the attractive element" especially doesn't make sense for bisexuals, but doesn't really apply to anyone else either. I'm not attracted to my partner because of her gender... you don't look at people and think "oh wow,I love their gender" and if you're in love with someone, unless you're trying to repress part of your sexuality, gender doesn't play a part in that either.
Just some simple research into pansexuality should clear things up for you. Maybe others on here should pursuit that route as well. The path to enlightenment.

As far as unique problems go, I'd argue bisexuals and pansexuals experience basically the same stuff... homophobia from wider society and distrust from the queer community. They're on the same spectrum of being attracted to all genders.
I think this whole thread, and the ignorance surrounding pansexuality here demonstrates that those who identify as pansexual do face unique problems. Yes, they face many similar problems too. I'm not denying that.

StromboliFucker666
29th July 2015, 08:38
Nobody cares.

Yes, because we all know that sexual orientations are comparable to fetishes. Sigh.

Uhm, no. It makes sense to distinguish between them because they exist.


Nobody cares? Dude read the fucking title of the thread.

Quail
29th July 2015, 09:27
Just some simple research into pansexuality should clear things up for you. Maybe others on here should pursuit that route as well. The path to enlightenment.

I think this whole thread, and the ignorance surrounding pansexuality here demonstrates that those who identify as pansexual do face unique problems. Yes, they face many similar problems too. I'm not denying that.
I have done some basic research into pansexuality... I look into it every time this topic comes up. I looked into it back when I was agonising over which box to put myself in before I realised that was a waste of my energy. There's just so much overlap between the two (with many identifying as both) that I don't see the purpose in having both a bisexual only community and a pansexual only community. My entire point is that the distinction between the two is so nebulous and ill defined that it doesn't make sense to treat them as two wholly separate identities.

A Revolutionary Tool
29th July 2015, 17:12
I just started working graveyard shift where I work and it's unbelievable how many customers try to talk to me about how hot they think my coworker is. During the day shift it never happened a single time but last night it happened 3 times and the night before that even more. I find it super creepy all of a sudden they'll be like "oh wow, do you see that petite girl in the back, do you talk to her." Wtf kind of shit is that and they'll just keep going on and I'm just sitting here not saying anything out of respect for her.

Cliff Paul
29th July 2015, 17:21
Driving on the highway today. Some motherfucker is holding up traffic by driving under the speed limit in the left hand lane. Finally get around the car by passing in the right lane and look over - this motherfucker has her feet up and is reading a book while driving.

Zoop
29th July 2015, 17:37
My entire point is that the distinction between the two is so nebulous and ill defined that it doesn't make sense to treat them as two wholly separate identities.

And my entire point is that they are separate identities that aren't ill defined. Ask any pansexual and they'll tell you that they don't identify as bisexual precisely because they aren't bisexual. It isn't a case of just making up a label. To think otherwise is pretty insulting, but whatever.

The Feral Underclass
29th July 2015, 18:01
And my entire point is that they are separate identities that aren't ill defined. Ask any pansexual and they'll tell you that they don't identify as bisexual precisely because they aren't bisexual. It isn't a case of just making up a label. To think otherwise is pretty insulting, but whatever.

In a practical sense, what is the difference between a pansexual and a bisexual, out of interest?

Thirsty Crow
29th July 2015, 18:07
And my entire point is that they are separate identities that aren't ill defined. Ask any pansexual and they'll tell you that they don't identify as bisexual precisely because they aren't bisexual. It isn't a case of just making up a label. To think otherwise is pretty insulting, but whatever.What's the reason for refusing to contribute to other folks' clarification here? As if you're of the opinion that you're above the ignorant rabble who dare to openly admit their ignorance.

I for one have no problem with admitting that. On the other hand, I have a problem with what seems like insinuations that my ignorance, and statement of that ignorance, are part of the problem. Simply because I don't think I harbor any prejudice to pansexual people. It might be I do but I'm unaware of it, but then someone will have to criticize me on that count.

I don't know any pansexual people and therefore can't ask them. Basic information readily available online suggests that pansexuality is characterized by "gender blindness" as opposed to bissexuality, but Quail here is arguing against that point. I don't know how separate phenomena of transsexual individuals and transgender individuals enter the picture here, and I've seen equivocal and vague use of both terms that doesn't trace any meaningful difference (going so far that there were arguments about a transgender identity in complete absence of any identification with the gender one wasn'0t assigned to at birth, which is completely different from the experience of transsexual people; to complicate matters further, there is the term genderqueer which intermingles with that of transgender identity in curious ways).

What am I to make of it? Certainly not that people are full of hot air, but I am confused. This stems from a willingness to actually understand, which is temporarily frustrated (attempts at understanding that is), people's experiences which aren't like my own.

Quail
29th July 2015, 18:26
And my entire point is that they are separate identities that aren't ill defined. Ask any pansexual and they'll tell you that they don't identify as bisexual precisely because they aren't bisexual. It isn't a case of just making up a label. To think otherwise is pretty insulting, but whatever.

What about the people who identify as both though? It's not like the two are mutually exclusive, as you're implying.

Anyway, here are some descriptions of the distinctions from a quick google search:


The term bisexual comes to us from the world of science and describes a person with both homosexual (lit. same sex) and heterosexual (lit. different sex) attractions. It is an open and inclusive word that describes many kinds of people with same-sex and different-sex attractions. As a scientific term, bisexual is not just an identity label; it is also a sexual orientation and can also describe a set of behaviors.

Identity labels like pansexual, polysexual, omnisexual, and ambisexual also describe a person with homosexual and heterosexual attractions, and therefore people who have chosen those labels are also bisexual. By replacing the prefix bi – (two, both) with pan- (all), poly- (many), omni- (all), ambi- (both, and implying ambiguity in this case), people who adopt these self-identities seek to clearly express the fact that gender does not factor into their own sexuality, or that they are specifically attracted to trans, genderqueer, and other people who may or may not fit into the mainstream gender categories of male and female. This does not mean, however, that people who identify as bisexual are fixated on traditional notions of gender.


When you start getting into the direct definition of pansexuality and bisexuality you have to be really careful. A lot of people use bisexuality and pansexuality interchangeably, while others are very adament that they are completely independent things. Therefore, it’s very important to remember where somebody is coming from when they identify themselves a certain way - now lets think about the various uses, and history of these two labels:

In the strictest definition, bisexuality means a sexuality consisting of two instead of one - which was meant to reflect its deviation from the standard monosexual counterparts (just being gay, lesbian, or straight). And since then has been trying to fight the many stricter definitions of bisexuality (such as the myth that you must have a 50/50 attraction to both sexes to be justifiably bisexual).

Now, the term bisexuality got it’s popularity and awareness when identities such as genderqueer, or gender variant weren’t as widespread and as such - weren’t included in the term since it was derived from the notion that there are two sexes (once again - Intersex individuals are completely discounted).

Of course with the rising distinction between gender and sex, we can come to understand that people felt the need to distinguish whether they were comfortable dating individuals outside of the typical “gender-norm” they were use to seeing in society - this most likely stemmed the birth of the term pansexuality and omnisexuality.

Pansexuality itself directly translated to having a general attraction to any and all genders. Pan meaning the expanse of the gender-scale, or panning the entire scale - implying that they’re comfortable with all ranges between the two cisgender categories.

Of course, now with the further study of sexuality, gender, and other further research into societal regulations and human interaction - labels have become politically charged words: such as the term queer - which is morphing into a term of rebellion that can be applied - now and in certain contexts - outside of merely sexual orientation, such as behavior and mental disposition.

Bisexuality then has also come into a political importance for some individuals (such as myself) who find the term empowering for various reasons. And, in fact, some individuals use labels merely as a political or social stance - more than an actual self-identifying term (many people have abdicated labels in general indicating that the words themselves are detrimental to full-self-awareness, or a self that is indescribable by mere words we can come up).

Also Bisexuality has, and can, be used as a basic umbrella term for the non-monosexual community on a whole since the general populace has been aware of the term prior than any other and it has already gained some recognition.

So, no - bisexuality and pansexuality aren’t technically the same thing. But one who identifies as bisexual, can also identify as pansexual - and if one identifies as bisexual you shouldn’t assume that they are merely interested in cis-gendered men and women. Most likely, it means they dont’ consider themselves monosexual.

This also means, one can identify as Pansexual, and not as a Bisexual. Interesting isn’t it - and kind of cool too. At least in my opinion.

In summary, what the internet says is that there are big overlaps. Well, that was a waste of my time.

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On topic: Children spill drinks with alarming frequency. Also feeding other people's children - what do they eat? It's not like we eat particularly weird food, even if we are vegan, but my son's friends never seem to be into the food we cook.

The Feral Underclass
29th July 2015, 18:32
^Chips and sausages and backed beans? Every kid loves chips and sausages. Or sausage and mash. I love sausage and mash. Use Redwood sausages though; those Linda McCartney sausages are not the best.

If they don't like sausages and chips then just tell them they don't deserve to eat, and that they can sustain themselves with their hungry tears.

Quail
29th July 2015, 19:28
^Chips and sausages and backed beans? Every kid loves chips and sausages. Or sausage and mash. I love sausage and mash. Use Redwood sausages though; those Linda McCartney sausages are not the best.

If they don't like sausages and chips then just tell them they don't deserve to eat, and that they can sustain themselves with their hungry tears.

I asked my son's friend earlier if he liked baked beans and he said no :ohmy:
What kind of child doesn't even like baked beans? Another friend will only eat pasta with ketchup as a sauce, which I find kind of baffling because ketchup is a terrible pasta sauce.

Mash does seem to be a pretty safe bet though, and chips.

The Feral Underclass
29th July 2015, 19:48
Another friend will only eat pasta with ketchup as a sauce, which I find kind of baffling because ketchup is a terrible pasta sauce.

At least it's vegan.

The Intransigent Faction
30th July 2015, 20:17
Whenever I try to quote any of "Luis Henrique"'s posts, it' just blank where the quote should be. :glare:

Tim Redd
31st July 2015, 02:33
Actually, he's right on a simplistic level. Minimum wages do push up inflation - if the majority have more money then businesses can increase prices accordingly without reducing demand. In order for minimum wages to actually make people better off then they need to be matched with policies which subsidize the cost of living and keep prices down.

Overall looking at the movement of humanity as whole, everyone should either be paid by a job enough to live with adequate food, clothing, housing, health care and retirement or society should fill in for the employed or unemployed whatever is necessary. We have the wealth to do this worldwide, especially if we dutifully employ people and spend money enough to tackle the issues that need to be and should be.

willowtooth
31st July 2015, 03:39
that tv, radio, and some websites ban cursing fuck you! christ doesn't rule you pieces of fucking shit :wub:

StromboliFucker666
31st July 2015, 06:45
People right now. Seriously, PUT SOME GODDAMN HEADPHONES IN OR I WILL SHOVE THAT PHONE SO FAR UP YOUR ASSHOLE....

The Intransigent Faction
4th August 2015, 01:33
that tv, radio, and some websites ban cursing fuck you! christ doesn't rule you pieces of fucking shit :wub:
Yeah. A while back, I was flipping through channels late at night and found one showing Natural Born Killers. All the 'blood and gore' and blatant sexual stuff was there, but the word "fuck"? OH NO! Bleep that out!

Bala Perdida
4th August 2015, 05:25
Hate taking lunch early. Like at the forth hour. Then you get back and you have to be working longer.

Quail
6th August 2015, 17:08
I made the mistake of engaging in a discussion about abortion in a facebook group called "Vegan Feminists"... Clearly most people are using a very loose definition of "feminism" - from people who think people should "show some self restraint" to weirdos who think all pregnancies should end in abortion or abortion should be mandatory for teenagers.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
6th August 2015, 17:11
I made the mistake of engaging in a discussion about abortion in a facebook group called "Vegan Feminists"... Clearly most people are using a very loose definition of "feminism" - from people who think people should "show some self restraint" to weirdos who think all pregnancies should end in abortion or abortion should be mandatory for teenagers.

I know the feeling, heh. I wish I was young enough to be surprised by crap like that again, but I'm not, people just have the weirdest convictions without a shred of consistency and t.b.h. I think the Internet just makes this worse.

What's been getting on my tits lately are Grassmann algebras. I have a Grassmann headache. It's horrible.

StromboliFucker666
6th August 2015, 19:14
When I sleep and wake up with arm pain.

Quail
6th August 2015, 19:24
I know the feeling, heh. I wish I was young enough to be surprised by crap like that again, but I'm not, people just have the weirdest convictions without a shred of consistency and t.b.h. I think the Internet just makes this worse.

What's been getting on my tits lately are Grassmann algebras. I have a Grassmann headache. It's horrible.

I don't think it's an age thing. I'm just relentlessly and foolishly optimistic :lol:

Quail
6th August 2015, 21:06
Also: My son's social life. Next week he's seeing three different friends! This week he's seen two different friends, and he does swimming and trampolining too. I've been making an effort to organise stuff for him to do so he doesn't get lonely in the holidays, but still... I put like 100x more effort into his social life than mine :unsure: I guess that's why I don't have friends.

The Intransigent Faction
7th August 2015, 23:27
I made the mistake of engaging in a discussion about abortion in a facebook group called "Vegan Feminists"... Clearly most people are using a very loose definition of "feminism" - from people who think people should "show some self restraint" to weirdos who think all pregnancies should end in abortion or abortion should be mandatory for teenagers.

Shit like that is part of why I just left Facebook altogether. Confronting people saying reactionary shit from behind a computer screen is not my idea of fun. ;)

I don't like to half-ass things, and when I love/hate something I really love/hate it. I have a feeling that that's going to screw me over somehow, yet I refuse to change. :unsure: Okay, I guess that counts as a confession, but it also kind of annoys me.

RedWorker
8th August 2015, 01:17
weirdos who think all pregnancies should end in abortion or abortion should be mandatory for teenagers.

Ah, these 'manhating' feminists show up at last! Perhaps this can be brought as evidence next time we have a thread in RevLeft infected with sexist ideology.

But anyway, why even see it as a necessity to argue against these living strawmen?

StromboliFucker666
8th August 2015, 02:12
People. I swear some people just get under my skin sometimes without even doing anything :/

rylasasin
9th August 2015, 01:04
Guilty.

That's the joke.

The Intransigent Faction
11th August 2015, 04:31
I was flipping through radio stations late at night and I heard a BBC interview with somebody about Turkey's bombing of the PKK. It was fucking cringeworthy. It was something like "Oh, why can't the PKK just embrace peaceful parliamentary methods like Sinn Fein has? WHY?"

StromboliFucker666
11th August 2015, 05:11
I was flipping through radio stations late at night and I heard a BBC interview with somebody about Turkey's bombing of the PKK. It was fucking cringeworthy. It was something like "Oh, why can't the PKK just embrace peaceful parliamentary methods like Sinn Fein has? WHY?"

They can't for a few reasons, actually.

Parliamentary methods simply do not work in achieving their goals.

Even if it did, I seriously doubt the Syrian government would just give them their way considering how ideologically different the PKK is to the current Syrian government.

ISIS/ISIL/IS (whatever they go by) will also not care about that kind of stuff when they have them beheaded.

The Intransigent Faction
11th August 2015, 08:19
Some people just make me want to rip out their voice boxes with my bare hands.

StromboliFucker666
11th August 2015, 09:15
I'm all for free speech, but some people just do not need to talk :/

cyu
15th August 2015, 14:05
Clearly most people are using a very loose definition of "feminism" - from people who think people should "show some self restraint" to weirdos who think all pregnancies should end in abortion or abortion should be mandatory for teenagers.

If I were the paranoid head of a division in charge of counter-insurgency, I would create fake profiles and fill up groups like this with strawman arguments. Even if we didn't believe vegans were any threat to the existing order, by painting people resembling leftists as crazy idiots, it can help rub off on leftist movements that actually do pose a threat.

Good thing anarchists can counter any attempt to use association fallacy with "That's just anarchy" :lol:

EDIT: crap, I must have opened this thread by accident - I never read this thread xD

The Intransigent Faction
17th August 2015, 08:24
Election signs! Election signs everywhere! They're all for the Liberals and Conservatives!

I'm getting an urge to start knocking on doors and saying "Hello, I'm from the real world and I'd like to ask you a few questions. Firstly...ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?"

Sentinel
22nd August 2015, 18:44
Dear Fucking Annoying Wasp.

Dear Sir/Ma'am (I think it has to be the damn queen judging from the size of it): I have a proposal for you. How about you stop using my beer can as a landing spot, and instead either drink out if, and preferably die from alcohol poisoning, or leave it for me instead.

Seeing as it was mine to begin with. Not that I am going to make a big deal out of whatever you decide.

The Feral Underclass
22nd August 2015, 18:46
^Stop bullying wasps, you massive propertarian!

Sewer Socialist
22nd August 2015, 18:57
-whistling
-roommates putting non-dishes in sink full of dirty dishes, like can openers, empty cans, pens...
-the classic rock station only playing 100 songs despite having decades of music to work with.

The Intransigent Faction
23rd August 2015, 20:37
Shattered skulls and shin bones of 7000-year-old skeletons may point to torture and mutilation not previously observed in early Neolithic Linear Pottery culture


People are people. Human nature hasn't really changed in 7000 years, only our belief systems and the rules weve invented to try to control ourselves.

Comrades! Some people found a mass grave from 7,000 years ago! I guess humans are irredeemably evil and communism is impossible after all.

Quail
25th August 2015, 15:06
Dear Fucking Annoying Wasp.

Dear Sir/Ma'am (I think it has to be the damn queen judging from the size of it): I have a proposal for you. How about you stop using my beer can as a landing spot, and instead either drink out if, and preferably die from alcohol poisoning, or leave it for me instead.

Seeing as it was mine to begin with. Not that I am going to make a big deal out of whatever you decide.

My birthday cider was a wasp magnet, it was pretty distressing. You'd put your cup down and half an hour later there would be three or more drunk, pissed off wasps floating around in it :unsure:

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I hate landlord inspections... Feels like such a violation.

Ro Laren
28th August 2015, 07:53
This douche I worked with decided to smoke weed at lunch and to make it so it wasn't obvious at all he doused himself in car air freshener spray. I can't get the smell out my sinuses now.

The Intransigent Faction
29th August 2015, 22:18
My birthday cider was a wasp magnet, it was pretty distressing. You'd put your cup down and half an hour later there would be three or more drunk, pissed off wasps floating around in it :unsure:

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I hate landlord inspections... Feels like such a violation.

I am absolutely paranoid around wasps. I've been stung in the back of my neck while sitting outside, reading. I never saw it coming.

At least bees make honey, yet the bee population's being decimated. :( We should destroy every wasp nest we find and put a beehive in its place.