View Full Version : Convince me that Georgism is a bad idea
FieldHound
20th December 2014, 19:40
I know very little about it, but the little that I do seems interesting. I'd imagine there's a lot of adversary here though, so I'm wondering what are the arguments against Georgism, and perhaps "Geolibertarianism/Geoanarchism" from a far/revolutionary leftist's perspective.
Creative Destruction
20th December 2014, 20:14
wtf. Make a positive argument first (saying that you like what little bit you've read doesn't count as an argument.) We can't negate something if we don't know what your understanding of it is, or what the arguments for it are.
PhoenixAsh
20th December 2014, 20:25
Because it leaves the basis of capitalism in tact and prevents the end of class society. From an Anarchist perspective it leaves the state in tact and requires the threat of force (taxes).
So yeah...you do not need any more reasons than these two.
1). Still capitalism
2). Still a state.
Creative Destruction
20th December 2014, 22:03
Well, I don't know much about Georgeism beyond its main tenet being the ridiculous idea that all ills in the economy would be addressed with a land tax. PhoenixAsh already addressed that. If an argument was made beyond that, then I think it would be easier for people to answer your challenge, OP.
FWIW, here is Marx's skewering of Henry George:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/letters/81_06_20.htm
Marx and Engels seem to say that George was just, erroneously, reinventing Ricardo's wheel.
Collective Reasons
21st December 2014, 07:02
Georgism was explicitly a bandage on capitalism, which is a bad start. But the basic project, of taxing and distributing land values so that property owners start with a level playing field, depends on being able to more-or-less objectively assign land values. If there was some vague hope of doing that in simpler societies, it seems impossible now. And most most modern georgists seem to lean more towards some system of universal land speculation with the community as landlord. Add the fact that the system seem likely to encourage people to worry about whether or not their neighbors have been taxed enough, and it sounds like it ought to lead to something pretty horrible.
The Idler
21st December 2014, 14:20
It ignores class, and that labour is the source of created value.
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