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Sentinel
17th December 2014, 01:39
I thought we should have a thread on the quite scary developments in Sweden this month. As a disclaimer at the start, while parliamentary developments are discussed it is on basis of their effects on society, not an endorsement of reformism etc from my part.

As you may or may not know, Sweden held elections on September 14th. The centre-right Alliance of bourgeois parties which had held power since 2006 was defeated by the so called 'redgreen bloc' consisting of the SAP (Social Democratic Workers' Party), the Greens and the Left Party. Neither 'bloc' got a majority, but as the redgreens got more votes the SAP got to form a government together with the Greens and with the support of the Left Party.

The Left was excluded from government but managed to negotiate some quite radical reforms to regulate the welfare sector. The new government also promised a few other reforms, and recognised the Palestine state setting an important precedent in western Europe. But then the shit hit the fan big time.

The leader of the far right Sweden Democrats (SD), racist-populists with their roots in the white power movement, who had more than doubled their seats in parliament going from under 6% in the 2010 elections to almost 13%, Jimmie Åkesson suffered a 'burnout'. It is speculated whether he was ousted from power by the more radical wing of his party, or whether it is a plot to prevent his reputation being damaged by the actions of the party at this junction. Noone is sure, but in any case Mattias Karlsson took over as deputy chairman.

On December 2, the budget was voted upon by the parliament. SD had been hinting that they might vote for the Alliance oppositions budget unless either bloc was prepared to discuss with them (reducing immigration), but this had been regarded as posturing and all parties maintained that there will be no negotiations with them. After all, the parliamentary praxis dictates that parties only vote for their own budget proposals, and abstain in the second round should it fail.

SD had done this the last time, and also after he recent elections demanded that praxis be followed so they got a 2:nd deputy speaker of parliament elected as the third largest party (other parties complied and abstained, with only the Left voting against). But now they instead wiped their arses with the 'praxis' - after their budget proposal was defeated, they promptly voted with the bourgeois opposition instead of abstaining, giving that proposal the majority and defeating the government one.

A governmental crisis ensued. PM Stefan Löfven announced that since he cannot administrate the bourgeois budget, new elections will be held on March 22.

SD deputy leader Mattias Karlsson moreover declared, that SD will from now on similarly vote down every government which doesn't negotiate with them on reducing immigration, effectively holding the majority of the parliament hostage unless the rules are somehow changed to make it easier for minority governments to get their budget passed. This aside, the party has changed it's rhetoric in a much more radical direction since.

The 2:nd deputy speaker, party secretary Björn Söder who was already before known for his rampant racism and homophobia, went out and declared that the 5 recognised minorities of Sweden - sweden finns, tornedalians, sami people, roma people, and jews - cannot be Swedish or part of the Swedish nation. This has caused an uproar in media, along with prominent SD member Kent Ekeroths proposal that a register be set up over people with one or more parent born abroad.

Due to these developments, even PM Löfven has now went out and condemned SD as a neo-fascist party. After toppling the government, SD:s popularity went up from 12% to 14%, or according to one survey 17%. There has however afaik been no survey yet after the statements by Ekeroth and Söder.

So great, from having a reformist left government which might have reversed at least some of the disastrious counterreforms from the last 8 years, we now don't know what the hell we will get in March. The bourgeois alliance parties while not cooperating actively with SD, are enjoying the new chance to get back in power, proposing that rules on budget voting be changed afterwards.

And as a cherry on top, we have an increasingly aggressive and increasingly openly neo-fascist party in parliament which may increase it's support even further. Scary fucking times.

RedWorker
17th December 2014, 02:42
I was reading 'SD' as the social democratic party and at the end realized they're the neonazis.

So SD was right when they said they'd be the 'kingmakers'.

"The coalition government - plus the Left Party - got 43.3 percent, slightly above the last poll." (recent opinion poll)

Isn't this good, though?

Sentinel
17th December 2014, 03:05
I was reading 'SD' as the social democratic party and at the end realized they're the neonazis.

It's an easy mistake to make, but yeah 'SD' stands for Sverigedemokraterna - Sweden Democrats. The Social Democrats are abbreviated 'SAP', Sveriges socialdemokratiska arbetareparti - Social Democratic Workers' Party, or perhaps more commonly today simply 'S'. They are the former 'state carrying' party of Sweden which alone used to poll 40-50% back in the glory days of Swedish reformism.

Nowadays after numerous right swings they consider themselves lucky to reach 30% and depend on the support of the Greens and the Left party. So far Sweden is yet to see coalitions over the left-right axis, although there of course are many calls for such right now due to the situation.

This is also what Löfven, a former union bureaucrat (before becoming chairman of the party he headed the metal workers union) on the right wing of the party, strives after. But so far the smaller bourgeois parties have refused, maintaining their Alliance bloc.



"The coalition government - plus the Left Party - got 43.3 percent, slightly above the last poll."

Isn't this good, though?


Yes, they were the largest bloc as the bourgeois Alliance got less than 40%, which led to the Reinfeldt government stepping down. But without a majority in parliament and the bourgeois parties presenting an united budget proposal, SD indeed got to, if not play 'kingmakers' at least to create an unprecedented parliamentary chaos.

And now we are heading for new elections, it is not certain that the redgreens will reach the same numbers the second time anyway. Only the lack of leadership in the Moderate party after the resignation of former PM Reinfeldt speaks in favour of that at the moment, but the Alliance is climbing in the polls.

Sentinel
17th December 2014, 06:04
New survey from Novus, in todays Aftonbladet. Conducted December 3-14 interviewing 1786 persons. Maybe I misunderstood and it was this survey you were referring to, RedWorker?

SAP 32,0 +3,4
Left Party 5,3 –1,0
Greens 6,0 –1,9
Feminist Initiative 1,1 –1,1

Moderate Party 23,7 –2,1
Liberal People's Party 4,3 –0,9
Christian Democrats 3,9 –0,1
Centre Party 6,6 –0,5

Sweden Democrats 16,0 +3,7
Others 1,1 +0,5

Redgreens: 43,3
The Alliance: 38,5
Sweden Democrats 16,0

Treshold to parliament is 4%.

Kingfish
17th December 2014, 10:01
Would it be reasonable to compare the SD to UKIP?

Sasha
17th December 2014, 10:09
no, its more similar to the BNP

The Feral Underclass
17th December 2014, 10:33
It seems as if they are basically capitalising on division amongst the main parties. How likely, in he event that SD get more seats, that all of the remaining left, moderate and centre-right parties would create a united front? Presumably if things got really bad the other parties could compromise with each other to make SD irrelevant.

Kingfish
17th December 2014, 11:11
no, its more similar to the BNP

Well that is certainly cause for concern, is a situation like what FUC talks of tenable or likely? I find it hard to imagine that party of this caliber will be underestimated or appointed into power like like we saw in the post WWI experience.

Sentinel
17th December 2014, 18:45
How likely, in he event that SD get more seats, that all of the remaining left, moderate and centre-right parties would create a united front?

Well, there are calls from different directions for an 'end to bloc politics'. The SAP leadership, consisting of the right wing faction of the party, especially is eager to see this kind of solution.

PM Löfven has been since already before the elections 'stretching out his hand' to the so called middle parties the Liberals and the Centre Party, both of which ironically nowadays are in most ways to the right of the Moderate (liberal-conservative) party, which is the main right wing party.

The Centre especially is blatantly neoliberal, headed by Annie Lööf who admittedly admires Thatcher as a role model, and the Liberals are the main force pushing for Nato membership. There have also been calls for a coalition between the Moderates and the SAP but that very unlikely at this point.

The bourgeois parties have been rejecting all of Löfvens attempts. Thusly it is far more likely, that the either rules or the 'praxis' for voting on budgets will be changed so that the largest bloc is able to govern, than that some kind of popular front coalition would take form.

In any case, thankfully it seems less likely after the latest debacles, that any other parties would cooperate with SD as the bourgeois parties have done with their own far right in Denmark and Norway. The Moderate party is leaderless and might take a new course to that of Reinfeldt who for all his faults stood out for consistently condemning the SD.

But after the fascistoid turn of SD that doesn't seem plausible at the moment, despite the fact that some alarming initiatives towards that end have already happened on municipal level.

Zukunftsmusik
17th December 2014, 21:14
In case it isn't clear, "bourgeois" refers to the centre-right block, and is in fact the proper name (as in, used by the media etc.) for that wing in Scandinavian politics.


In any case, thankfully it seems less likely after the latest debacles, that any other parties would cooperate with SD as the bourgeois parties have done with their own far right in Denmark and Norway.

FWIW, The Progressive Party (sic!) doesn't have neo nazi roots, and its - how to put this nicely - more explicitly racist wing is small and largely irrelevant (there is especially one loose cannon who repeatedly have debated fellow party members on direct national TV). That said, though, our present government is in fact the most right wing since WWII.

Sentinel
18th December 2014, 07:09
FWIW, The Progressive Party (sic!) doesn't have neo nazi roots, and its - how to put this nicely - more explicitly racist wing is small and largely irrelevant (there is especially one loose cannon who repeatedly have debated fellow party members on direct national TV). That said, though, our present government is in fact the most right wing since WWII.

Yeah this is correct, I would call the Norwegian and Danish parties far right populist, but not neo-fascist. Same with the True Finns. Maybe 'right wing populist with far right elements' would be the correct description if splitting hairs.

Until now I have been careful to call the SD (neo-)fascist as well, but after the recent stuff I no longer hesitate. The more explicit connection to the old white power movement clearly is what is has been holding the Swedish bourgeoisie back from embracing the SD.

jullia
18th December 2014, 09:06
They only represent 16% and they arrive to block a decision.

Црвена
18th December 2014, 10:48
Wow. These people make UKIP seem like revolutionaries.

I'm not sure how willing other parties will be to co-operate with the SD if they're so openly white supremacists, so that'll reduce their influence in government even if they get a reasonable number of seats...right?

NinthMango
18th December 2014, 17:55
It looks like the Christian Democrats are the first ones out to adjust to the Sweden Democrats anti-immigrant policies and the upcoming re-election with their proposition prompting to cut some of the income support for asylum seekers. Not suprising given their situation (and opinions), showing 0,1 percentage point under the 4 percent needed to enter the parliament in the latest poll. I wonder if they will be able to cling on another election with the Sweden Democrats stealing more and more of their voters.

jullia
18th December 2014, 20:54
There are two nationalists party in sweden?

Sentinel
19th December 2014, 08:05
There are two nationalists party in sweden?

Not with the chance of entering parliament atm. The Christian Democrats (a small party in quite nonreligious Sweden) however are opportunistically competing over the same reactionary voterbase, as they are at risk of falling out of the parliament.

jullia
19th December 2014, 09:36
So it's probably a good thing it divide them and limit the number of deputy they get in parliament.

Sentinel
27th December 2014, 15:31
The extra elections in March are cancelled. The SAP-Greens government drafted a so called December Agreement with the Alliance parties yesterday. It entails that for the coming two electoral cycles, until 2022 any minority govt with the largest bloc behind it, will get its budget passed by other agreed parties abstaining.

SD are furious and will send in a call for the government to resign for 'breaking its word' and being undemocratic. Everyone is mocking them, school minister Fridolin saying he will frame in this badge of honour on his office wall.