have any of you ever successfully passed a hair follicle test?

[consuming negativity]

hopefully this doesn't get me b7 because drug-related but we have a literal stoner thread so i think this is probably okay

on monday i'm going to get a hair follicle test

http://www.psychemedics.com/ <-- these are the fuckers who are doing it, which means that the test window is ~90 days, in which i have not smoked a lot but i have definitely smoked a couple times

any advice on how i can pass this test? this job would be fucking awesome and literally the only reason i wouldn't get it at this point is because the offer is conditional on passing this fucking hair test

i've read a lot of shit on the internet, ranging from "you're fucked, there's no way to pass it" to "some shampoo products work" to "malibu and bleach your hair" to this one crazy method which involves soaking the hair in vinegar, salicylic acid, and tide laundry detergent (what the fuck?)

oh, and shaving won't work because then they'll just take my body hair and i am not shaving my entire body just to take a chance at not passing the piss test (it's been about 3 weeks since i smoked one time).

[Halert]

wtf, a drug test to get a job?
unless you show up stoned at work, why would they care what you do in your free time?

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Do you really think the piss test is an option if you shave everything? You have a much better chance of sneaking past that one, especially if its been 3 weeks.

[consuming negativity]

wtf, a drug test to get a job?
unless you show up stoned at work, why would they care what you do in your free time?

http://www.dol.gov/elaws/asp/drugfree/screenr.htm



Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988 Requirements
The Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988 requires some Federal contractors and all Federal grantees to agree that they will provide drug-free workplaces as a precondition of receiving a contract or grant from a Federal agency.

[Sasha]

i assume that if you show up full body shaved they will find a reason to not offer you the job, that shit works only as a last ditch tactic to prevent getting fired if you already have the job.

just trim your hair short and take your chances.

[consuming negativity]

Do you really think the piss test is an option if you shave everything? You have a much better chance of sneaking past that one, especially if its been 3 weeks.

i have no idea what they'll do, i've never had to get a hair test done before

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Sasha might be right, but we already know you aren't going to pass. I would give shaving a try if you're really desperate for this job and can't delay it. A piss test is so easy to throw, I would take the slim chance of them offering it to you over the guaranteed no when your hair test results come back.

Tough situation, too bad that you have to deal with it at all

[consuming negativity]

if i cut off everything that grew over ~2.5 months ago there will only be one vaped bowl in my hair

i guess we'll get to see just how sensitive these things really are. i don't really have high hopes, but then, a company that will fucking hair test you to pack shit into boxes is pretty shitty even by company standards

[Tim Cornelis]

http://www.dol.gov/elaws/asp/drugfree/screenr.htm

drug-free workplace, but spare time is outside the workplace, surely?

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Positives are always treated as though you were high at the time of the test. A lot of places require a drug test after an accident in the workplace as well. So if you happened to smoke 3 weeks before you had an accident at work, they assume the positive is proof you were actually high at the time of the accident and the company is not liable for any injuries you sustained, oh and then they fire you for being high at work. Drug tests are bullshit.

[jullia]

:ohmy: :ohmy: I wasn't know it was legal to do it.
For which job you have a drug test, if it's not to much personnal?

[The Feral Underclass]

THC is stored in your fat, so I'm not sure if there is actually away to cleanse it out.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

There isn't a way to flush it, it's based on individual metabolism. You can trick a urine test by diluting the sample to such an extent that it's almost entirely water. Depending on the circumstances this will either give you a pass or at least buy you some time to flush the THC naturally before you have to retake the test.

I honestly have no idea for a hair test, those are much more expensive Im actually surprised a company would be willing to foot the bill on one for an entrance exam.

[Lord Testicles]

Aside from abstinence, the best way to beat a hair test is to use one of the many follicle shampoos available from a variety of retail outlets on the Internet and elsewhere. Shampoo manufacturers used to guarantee good results until recently, when revised testing standards significantly lowered the cutoff on hair tests. These new standards are not federally mandated (yet) and not all labs have adopted them (yet), but there's currently no way to determine which cutoff a lab will use. Shampoo manufacturers have begun reformulating their products to once again guarantee effectiveness, but until this next generation of products emerges, the original follicle shampoos remain the best (and only) option for stoners facing the hair scare.

http://www.hightimes.com/microsites/drugtest/drugtest_hair.inc.php

http://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/1ccp3s/how_i_passed_a_hair_follicle_test/

I don't know how correct these are but they might be worth a shot if you've got no other ideas. Good luck.

[The Feral Underclass]

Exercise might help...

[jullia]

I have no idea of the procedure test, but maybe there is an opportunity to give some hairs from one of your "clean" friend?
Like in the movie Gattaca.

[Lord Testicles]

Alternatively, shave all of your hair and tell them you've got alopecia universalis. You'll have to keep the lie up for your entire employment but with a bit of determination and diligence I think it can be pulled off.

[The Feral Underclass]

If someone can build a time machine, that would also solve the problem.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Step 1: Shave everything and request a urine test instead

Step 1.5: If you get pushback, claim you have a health condition or that you became infested with lice since your initial interview (suggest that the company is responsible if you go this route imo)

Step 2: If they still won't give you a urine test claim you were discriminated against based on whatever story you picked for step 1.5

Step 3: I don't even remember what we're talking about. Build a time machine and start working out.

[The Feral Underclass]

The working out part might genuinely help.

[Sasha]

Alternatively, shave all of your hair and tell them you've got alopecia universalis. You'll have to keep the lie up for your entire employment but with a bit of determination and diligence I think it can be pulled off.


the first post war2 recipient of the dutch version of the purple heart got into some hot water after it was "alleged" he sold drugs and weapons from the bar he ran, most of the allegations where never proven so eventually he was reinstated in the military and he could keep his medal but he showed up to his drugtest completely waxed all over claiming he lost all his hair due to the stress he was experiencing, some people even bought it :lol:

[Sasha]

The working out part might genuinely help.

in not getting the job, THC trace elements are stored in your fat, if you suddenly start working out this will be released and get a chance to reenter you system and thus your follicles/pee

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Yeah if you work out regularly already you might be flushing THC faster than normal, but if you start altogether just before the test it actually makes it more likely to be detected

[BIXX]

I'll sell you my hair its been forever since I smoked

[The Feral Underclass]

in not getting the job, THC trace elements are stored in your fat, if you suddenly start working out this will be released and get a chance to reenter you system and thus your follicles/pee

You're right. The internet says you should STOP exercising before a test...So probably best to do that.

[Sasha]

I'll sell you my hair its been forever since I smoked


haha, communer you should wax your whole body and then get one single dirtydoxxer hair implanted for them to pull. anyone going to such lengths to get a packaging job i would hire regardless of whether they tested positive.

[BIXX]

Alternatively, shave all of your hair and tell them you've got alopecia universalis. You'll have to keep the lie up for your entire employment but with a bit of determination and diligence I think it can be pulled off.
Later you could say you're on an experimental drug that cured you.

[consuming negativity]

apparently i can buy a wig made of actual human hair for like 20 bucks on the internet

i wonder if anybody's ever tried that before

have been considering doing a vinegar/salicylic acid wash of my hair but fuck if i'm going to let it sit and destroy me for an entire half hour

am probably not going to get a time machine or buy hair from a revlefter

[The Feral Underclass]

Well good luck.

[Sasha]

apparently i can buy a wig made of actual human hair for like 20 bucks on the internet


As the test already says in its name its an hair FOLLICLE test, wigs are made f cut hair, they don't have follicles, only pulled out ones do. They will know instantly.
So that won't work.

[BIXX]

As the test already says in its name its an hair FOLLICLE test, wigs are made f cut hair, they don't have follicles, only pulled out ones do. They will know instantly.
So that won't work.
Looks like buying my hair is your only option bruh. Shipping might cost more than the hair itself seeing as we should probably use priority mail.

Good luck!

[consuming negativity]

wait they're going to fucking pull out 50 strands of my hair? what the actual fuck?

[BIXX]

wait they're going to fucking pull out 50 strands of my hair? what the actual fuck?
I'll cut all of mine off then

[Sewer Socialist]

Someone who sells their hair to get by probably does more drugs than you. SAMHSA guidelines are to only test the 1.5" portion of hair closest to the follice. That said, getting a haircut and getting rid of body hair doesn't sound unreasonably drastic if you want to make completely sure.

Also keep in mind that there will be a minimum threshold of detectability. I don't know how that relates to specific usage, but my understanding is that there must be a significant level of THC in the blood, which must then make its way into the hair. So it's entirely possible that your one usage will not be enough to surpass that level.

What is your tolerance like? It seems likely that people with low tolerances will have smaller amounts in their system.


apparently i can buy a wig made of actual human hair for like 20 bucks on the internet

i wonder if anybody's ever tried that before

have been considering doing a vinegar/salicylic acid wash of my hair but fuck if i'm going to let it sit and destroy me for an entire half hour

am probably not going to get a time machine or buy hair from a revlefter

[Sasha]

wait they're going to fucking pull out 50 strands of my hair? what the actual fuck?

I stand corrected, I did a bit of reading and it seems that in the kind of test you are getting they just need to cut it but as close as the scalp as possible. So a wig is still out.
But cutting your hair (all your hair, also pubic and armpits) might be an option, 1 cm is about 1 month on your head, so if you shave your pubic hairs and arm pits and trim your head hair down to 1 or 2 cm (depending on how long your clean) might be an option without raising too much suspicion and forcing through a piss test.

[Lord Testicles]

I found the Psychemedics youtube channel:

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[Lily Briscoe]

http://www.psychemedics.com/ <-- these are the fuckers who are doing it

http://www.psychemedics.com/graphs/UA-Window-of-Detection.jpg

Most relatable picture ever.

Anyway, I don't have any advice to offer you, which is probably better than most of the advice in this thread (and most of the advice you get whenever you say "I'm getting a drug test, what should I do?"). I've never heard of anyone having to pass a hair follicle test in order to get a job though, that's pretty horrifying.

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

turn up to the test smoking a giant doob, light the building on fire.

[jullia]

I truly advice you to not shave your head. They are not stupid. They will get it and you will be finish.

You should try to clean your hair with the stuff and make some sport to eliminate thc.
And if you are caught maybe a honest lie will work:
"Yeah one week end, i smoke a bit in a party but i'am not a drug addict. It was only to celebrate this... blablabla... I will never smoke again...I'am really motivate for this job and you will not regret to give me a chance..."

[consuming negativity]

shaved my underarms to prevent them being used against me

cut myself like three times and they burn like fuck even though I used shaving cream and shit, but actually it looks a lot nicer than before so this might become a thing

they need 1.5 inches of hair but I'm gonna see if I can skate by with like 1 inch to make sure my binging in September won't show up on the test, which was like every day smoking for weeks on end

also plan on treating it somehow on the day of the test, which is Monday

@jullia: actually if anything shows up it will be the bowl I vaped for my birthday but I don't think that legally-speaking they can hire me if I fail

I do know, however, that I am entitled to a retest, but I'm not sure if I have to pay for it or if they will be taking a new sample or just retesting the old sample

[jullia]

If it's only a question of days before all disapear. You can still said you are sick monday is the 22. After there are christmas, with luck everything is close and they can't make the test. You can win a week.

At least if you can make the test later it's ok. I hope that if you fail the test it's for forever. They put a big red mark on your file and it block you.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

9mm should let us collectively write his advice column for small business owners. Revleft advice should be treated as a public good going forward. Good luck communer

[Rudolf]

Im interested in how this goes, communer. Im lucky that drug testing isn't such a common practice in the UK. If it were i'd never be able to get a job lol.


Also, you'd probably have to pay for the retest yourself.

[consuming negativity]

day before the test

dumped a glass of white vinegar on my hair (no water dilution), rubbed it around like shampoo and paid extra attention to the back because that's usually where they take the hair from (cosmetic reasons)

left it in for 5 minutes before putting a 3% salicylic acid shampoo in it for another 10 minutes. i did *not* wash out the vinegar before using the shampoo.

thoughts:

1. my hair seems completely fine. i mean it's dry but i didn't even use conditioner afterwards
2. i really should have microwaved the vinegar for a few seconds because it was COLD AS FUCK, and also it really fucking stinks. like no shit vinegar stinks, but 10+ minutes of it being on your actual head is nasal torture and by far the worst part of the entire ordeal

intend to do another one tonight but the only laundry detergent i have is arm & hammer and i'm not going out and buying a thing of tide just to potentially use it on my hair once. i'm gonna do some research on what is in these detergents and see if there might be any alternatives i could use. the idea of washing my hair in detergent is not appealing.

[jullia]

Where do you get this idea of vinegear?

[Loony Le Fist]

oh, and shaving won't work because then they'll just take my body hair and i am not shaving my entire body just to take a chance at not passing the piss test (it's been about 3 weeks since i smoked one time).

I've successfully passed a piss test having smoked a couple days before the test. I drank 2 gallons of water the night before and continued to drink water continuously up until the time of the test. I have no experience using the follicle shampoos, so I can't vouch for their efficacy.

[consuming negativity]

Where do you get this idea of vinegear?

i'm basically doing a more reasonable version of this: http://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/1ccp3s/how_i_passed_a_hair_follicle_test/



*1) Heinz Vinegar (soak your head in it, then put on a shower cap and keep it there) Wipe up anything that drips down. Leave in for 30 min.
*2) Clean & Clear Astringent (THE PINK KIND ONLY....IT HAS 2% SALICYLIC ACID!!) Put this on WHILE THE VINEGAR IS STILL IN YOUR HAIR, BUT AFTER 30 MINUTES OF IT SOAKING!!!, so that means don't rinse out the vinegar.
**Caution, this shit burns....suck it up. Massage it into your hair and use shower cap..wipe up stuff that drips. Leave in for 30 min, then rinse it all (clean & Clear + Vinegar) out.
*3) Tide original Liquid Laundry Detergent. Glop some on and scrub scrub scrub. Then wash it out. PLEASE be careful not to get any of this in your eyes, as i can imagine it will burn like all fuck!
*4) Now what i did the day BEFORE my test was after this whole process, i dyed my hair with an extra shitty box of dye just to get the extra hair power.
I did this 5 times in 3 days, including once on the day of my test.
Anyway, hope this helps anyone out there, i passed my test with HUGE amounts of THC and some ecstasy in my system.
it should be noted that "this shit" did not burn at all when that user said it would

but also, vinegar has been used to clean hair for a while. you can easily go online and find a guide to using it to clean your hair without using shampoo

---

as for detergents, i found out that the main ingredient in all laundry detergent is actually just glorified soap that works better in hard water. according to this map (http://www.qualitywatertreatment.com/city_water_guide.htm), my water is not hard, but detergents also have small amounts of bleach and enzymes. according to wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laundry_detergent), the bleach helps get plant matter out, whereas the enzymes facilitate the cleaning of proteins, lipids and carbohydrates. thing is, this is sort of contradicted by tide's website (http://www.tide.com/en-US/product/tide-free.jspx#info), which says that there are just "whitening agents" and that the enzymes help on things with examples being grass and blood.


i don't think we're talking about the kind of grass they were! but i think i'm gonna try the detergent and see.

---

another update on the state of my hair: my scalp is really fucking itchy.

oh, and in case you're all wondering, i have all of the paperwork already and the test is for cocaine, amphetamines (ie. adderall, meth), weed, opioids, and pcp

no psychedelics at all are on the test which is interesting to me. and no ketamine or dissociatives either. but they do test for pcp. i'm sure that's not at all based in the public perception of pcp.

[Sasha]

i know acid is the drug of choice of professional atheletes who need to do regular drug tests as it disappears the fastest, so i guess they just cant detect it.

[Loony Le Fist]

i know acid is the drug of choice of professional atheletes who need to do regular drug tests as it disappears the fastest, so i guess they just cant detect it.

Generally acid (LSD) isn't tested for on the NIDA 5 standard panel. Just opiates, cocaine, amphetamines, weed, and PCP. MDMA is known to trigger a positive for amphetamines. I would also assume that Ketamine (Special K) will trigger a positive for PCP because of the similarities in their chemical structures.

http://www.uatests.com/drug-testing-information/nida-5.php

Of course, there are tests for everything if there is something they are searching for specifically. However, most drug screens use the basic NIDA 5 panel.

The good news is that if you do anything else but smoke weed, you are clear after 72 hours. Unfortunately THC is fat soluble, and it therefore it stays in your body longer than most drugs. Harder drugs and those most likely to create life impairing addictions (like cocaine, speed, and heroin) have a shorter detection window because they are water soluble. Isn't that ironic.

[Redistribute the Rep]

Baking soda is also used for cleaning hair and is pretty harsh from what I understand... Also do you have access to charcoal powder by chance? It is very absorbant and can suck up impurities, some brands put it in shampoos for this reason and some people take it orally.

Good luck. You're one of the few users I don't hate on this forum.

[consuming negativity]

Baking soda is also used for cleaning hair and is pretty harsh from what I understand... Also do you have access to charcoal powder by chance? It is very absorbant and can suck up impurities, some brands put it in shampoos for this reason and some people take it orally.

Good luck. You're one of the few users I don't hate on this forum.

alright so this just got interesting

i was checking out baking soda and ended up watching a video about using baking soda and vinegar to clean your hair that i saw earlier when investigating using vinegar to clean hair (i saw about using the vinegar/ baking soda combo):

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the important part is that she explains how baking soda opens up your hair follicles, whereas vinegar closes them because of it being a base/acid (respectively)

alright so if i want to get THC metabolites out of my hair follicles, i should open them up, right? not close them with vinegar. so i figured maybe tonight i will take baking soda to my hair and wash that shit out with vinegar or something like that. but then i looked at the charcoal...

http://www.xovain.com/how-to/beauty-uses-for-activated-charcoal

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25/charcoal-beauty-products_n_4848608.html

to save time reading, activated charcoal is what they use for people who overdose or get poisoned because of the adsorption process caused by its ridiculously hilariously high surface area. and i remembered that in my internet research that i've seen people talk about t/gel to pass a hair test... and it has activated charcoal in it. i couldn't figure out why that would help, so instead i went with the salicylic acid stuff like it says in the reddit link.

so i think what i'm going to do tonight is grab some baking soda to open up my hair follicles, charcoal the fuck out of it with t/gel, and then rinse everything down with vinegar.

i mean, it sounds logical, right? the reddit link also mentioned that being a base is what made the detergent work so it seems like internet scientists thus far seem to be on my side

[Redistribute the Rep]

The woman in the video misspoke, at first she said baking soda opens the hair cuticle and vinegar closes the hair follicle, I'm not sure vinegar closes the hair follicle... It closes the hair cuticle, which is why many people use it as a final rinse, as closing the hair cuticle keeps water from leaving the hair shaft. People with a more closed cuticle have shinier and healthier hair. This is not the same as a closed follicle. Anyway, vinegar is also known to remove impurities, some people even use it in place of shampoo. I know this because I have very long hair and have gone on hair forums for years researching this stuff.

The only thing I would know to open up the hair follicle would be warm water, this is known to open skins pores, while cold water does the opposite.

But yea salicyclic acid might help, it is known to clear pores hence why many acne products have it

I remember reading a news story a while back about the US Air Force banning a flavor of chobani Greek yogurt ( it was blueberry I think) because it had hemp seeds in it, causing people to have false positives on the drug tests. Perhaps you could tell them you eat this and make it look like a false positive

If all else fails could you tell the employer you're already undergoing treatment for drug use or something?

[consuming negativity]

alright, shower 2/3 is over.

documentation:

step 1: soaked hair in vinegar for a few minutes
step 2: used 3% salicylic acid shampoo (t/sal) with the vinegar still in my hair for a few more minutes
--- ^^^ the above is everything i did the first time ^^^ ---
step 3: rinsed
step 4: used arm & hammer laundry detergent for a few minutes
step 5: rinsed
--- ^^^ the above is the end of the abbreviated "Maccuj0 method" ^^^ ---
step 6: used t/gel charcoal shampoo for a few minutes
step 7: rinsed
step 8: used baking soda/water paste for a few minutes
step 9: rinsed
step 10: used t/sal for a few minutes
step 11: rinsed it all out with vinegar
step 12: rinsed the vinegar out of my hair

thoughts:

the laundry detergent and baking soda made my hair feel like absolute shit, which is expected because they open the hair cuticle because they're bases. after i did steps 10-12, however, my hair is basically back to normal and doesn't feel very terrible. no color changes either.

everything took about 20-30 minutes in total, i never let anything soak for more than 2-3 minutes at a time

tomorrow morning i'm planning to do a baking soda --> t/gel (three times) --> t/sal --> vinegar wash a couple hours before i go in for the test, and then i have to wait up to 2 weeks to get the results.

[Redistribute the Rep]

The vinegar neutralized the base and closed the cuticle, that s probably why your hair went back to normal, anyway good luck tomorrow

[QueerVanguard]

Can I just ask, why the hell are you so worried about getting some crappy packing job? The pay can't be that good to be this stressed. If you don't get it, you'll find something along those lines that doesn't require that you become Moral Earl.

[Redistribute the Rep]

A lot of jobs require drug tests it seems though

[QueerVanguard]

A lot of jobs require drug tests it seems though

Maybe, but he can just wait for the weed to pass through his system to apply for one of them. No need to be up all night abusing yourself in an attempt to cleanse your hair from the "impurity" of good bud just to please some fuckwads that are gonna pay you crap and treat you like a shit.

[consuming negativity]

Can I just ask, why the hell are you so worried about getting some crappy packing job? The pay can't be that good to be this stressed. If you don't get it, you'll find something along those lines that doesn't require that you become Moral Earl.

when did i ever say was worried or stressed out? all of the stuff i've bought together is less than 20 dollars and i've basically just taken a couple showers and done research on drug tests. if i was actually worried i'd not be fucking around and trying new things, but would instead be doing a full 3-hour maccujo and topping it off with $100 bottle of cleanser

that said, i want the job because it's a pretty substantial increase over the combined income of the two jobs i have now, if only because it has stable hours and can be walked to without hassle. i have applications out for other jobs, some of which are better both in what i'd be doing and what i'll be getting to do it, but i'm not going to put all my eggs in one basket and i lose my seasonal position next month. yeah, the job sucks, but frankly i'm not going to be picky when i'm not exactly a great candidate for life (much less employment) and when being picky about it might end up with me being in a shelter. where they will piss test me whenever they want and will throw me out with nowhere to go if i fail.

so, you know, maybe i will, or maybe i won't, but i don't see any reason to not at least try.

[QueerVanguard]

when did i ever say was worried or stressed out? all of the stuff i've bought together is less than 20 dollars and i've basically just taken a couple showers and done research on drug tests. if i was actually worried i'd not be fucking around and trying new things, but would instead be doing a full 3-hour maccujo and topping it off with $100 bottle of cleanser

that said, i want the job because it's a pretty substantial increase over the combined income of the two jobs i have now, if only because it has stable hours and can be walked to without hassle. i have applications out for other jobs, some of which are better both in what i'd be doing and what i'll be getting to do it, but i'm not going to put all my eggs in one basket and i lose my seasonal position next month. yeah, the job sucks, but frankly i'm not going to be picky when i'm not exactly a great candidate for life (much less employment) and when being picky about it might end up with me being in a shelter. where they will piss test me whenever they want and will throw me out with nowhere to go if i fail.

so, you know, maybe i will, or maybe i won't, but i don't see any reason to not at least try.

word

[Os Cangaceiros]

You might be able to cheat the private sector with diluting a piss sample, but you can't do that when the legal system is testing you...back when I was on probation they'd automatically fail you if the sample was too diluted (ie if you pounded down gallons of water before whipping it out)

[BIXX]

You might be able to cheat the private sector with diluting a piss sample, but you can't do that when the legal system is testing you...back when I was on probation they'd automatically fail you if the sample was too diluted (ie if you pounded down gallons of water before whipping it out)
A couple of kids from wrestling diluted their pee with clean pee from a friend of theirs.

Which leads me to wonder, why didn't they just take his clean pee?

[Os Cangaceiros]

yeah that sounds kinda dumb

[BIXX]

yeah that sounds kinda dumb
Though I suppose if you were to pull a workaholics drug test then you could sabotage the test.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Solidarity to all the comrades out there who have to suffer sobriety. No one should be forced to endure that!

[consuming negativity]

I ended up just doing a normal shampoo and conditioner this morning. when I woke up my scalp was fucking fried to pieces and I'm not gonna make my head endure more caustic bullshit.

[PhoenixAsh]

http://www.elliottmidnews.com.au/story/822688/drug-cheats-can-beat-the-tests-doctor/

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

You might be able to cheat the private sector with diluting a piss sample, but you can't do that when the legal system is testing you...back when I was on probation they'd automatically fail you if the sample was too diluted (ie if you pounded down gallons of water before whipping it out)

I've only passed private sector tests that way yeah. Honestly if you're in the jaws of the legal system already you probably shouldn't fuck around and risk something like failing a test imo.

[Sewer Socialist]

i know acid is the drug of choice of professional atheletes who need to do regular drug tests as it disappears the fastest, so i guess they just cant detect it.

Well, the World Anti-Doping Agency (testing agency of the International Olympic Committee) increased the threshold of THC tenfold after Shaun White had his gold medal taken away when supposedly only getting high the night before. Marijuana has always been only banned in-competition. I got really high the night before a race once (helps me relax, no hangover) and was nervous when I got 3rd and so I got tested, but it totes worked out.

Since then, it's been a little more popular. :)

[consuming negativity]

LOL

y'all will never believe this shit

i'm sitting here high off my fucking ass after a personal blunt

phone rings, barely able to talk, still not sure what the fuck she was trying to say half the time

but she told me that i passed my drug test and i got the job so they scheduled orientation

hahahahaha i can't believe that shit actually worked, i'm ecstatic

[Creative Destruction]

hah. nice.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

So what did they do just pluck a random hair or cut off a whole chunk?

[consuming negativity]

So what did they do just pluck a random hair or cut off a whole chunk?

they cut off a few cm-long patches

left like a half of a cm of hair on my head too

it wasn't noticeable at all though. i dunno how they did it

[Redistribute the Rep]

What if it's somebody with long hair? Do they have to cut all the way to the scalp to get the recent hair?

[Lord Testicles]

What if it's somebody with long hair? Do they have to cut all the way to the scalp to get the recent hair?

I imagine with long hair they will cut a couple of strands down to the scalp and then they'll have a few months worth of drug usage.

[The Feral Underclass]

LOL

y'all will never believe this shit

i'm sitting here high off my fucking ass after a personal blunt

phone rings, barely able to talk, still not sure what the fuck she was trying to say half the time

but she told me that i passed my drug test and i got the job so they scheduled orientation

hahahahaha i can't believe that shit actually worked, i'm ecstatic

A glorious victory for the international proletariat.

[phlack]

Alright, so I've looked at a few different things. Here's what I'm gonna try and some supporting documentation (can't put links in yet, but the info is out there). PM me if you want the documentation.

First of all, I don't feel that starting with acids is a great idea. It's been pretty much proven that bases open the hair. However, acids are a good finish because they seal the cuticle and make the hair look less damaged than they would otherwise. I'm going base, base/solvent, solvent/surfactant. On the last day or two, I'll reseal the cuticle to make my hair look less damaged.

1) Arm and Hammer Super Washing Soda: this is pure sodium carbonate with a really high PH. From what I've read, we should be dealing with about PH 11. This stuff doesn't dissolve well in water. So, I'd recommend mixing it at about half soda, half water. At that point, you can feel the "slimy" effect on your fingers when you rinse them. Work this through your hair by fingering it in and then combing it through.

Supporting Documentation: This document shows that environmental exposure has a greater effect when you put sodium carbonate on the hair. That means that it opens the hair up and makes it more porous. You shouldn't be around any airborne contaminants if you're reading this post. However, this should open up the hair to make the rest work over time.

2) I'm using Arm and Hammer liquid detergent plus oxiclean. The main reason is that it has a lot of propylene glycol. It's an organic solvent that should separate most chemicals from the melanin in your hair.

3) Next, I'm using Method Dish Soap ( should be almost a neutral PH ) plus methanol from Home Depot. I'll mix it about half and half. You could use Heet fuel line antifreeze, but Home Depot or Lowe's should sell it in the one gallon can. Methanol is one of the chemicals that was originally used in hair testing to separate the drug from the hair particles after the hair is broken up.

Supporting document:

I'm going to repeat this for about a week. I've done a lot of reading and the Mac method doesn't work anymore due to changes in thresholds and the thorough washing of hair before the hair is examined. You have to open the hair with a base, then start to dissolve the drug and metabolites, then at the very end, seal it up to make it look healthy. The last couple days I'll be using the vinegar and salicylic acid in order to accomplish the sealing. But the rest of the time, I want the hair wide open.

[Gotya]

I never took a drug test and never will take one. I once had a job offer after I interviewed half the day. It was an office job with very good pay. They flew me out, took me to lunch, etc.

I told HR I would not do the test. They said I could sign a document saying I did not do drugs. This back and forth went on for two days. Finally, I figured it was not worth it. I was already starting off on the wrong foot. I had a bad taste in my mouth. I declined the job. Screw them. I was actually much better off because things went fairly well for me after that.