Tankies write, let's read.

[Tim Cornelis]

I hate to make fun of people, but I couldn't help but share some gems I found on communpedia.

"After the Russian Civil War, Russia had a ruined economy but Lenin then made it grow very fast"

http://en.communpedia.org/Lenin

"2#. Do NOT support nazis"

"4#. Kill any KKK followers or nazis you see when you have the chance to do so, if you see one. Defend the people they are attacking and make sure no one dies, or at least very few get hurt."

"Warning: Do not be a communist just to get attention or to be "cool" if you go to school"

http://en.communpedia.org/Essay:How_to_become_a_communist

"Do not buy things you don't need."

"If you need to buy a processed product, buy it from the smallest company."

"Do not smoke nor do drugs. Drink as little as you can."

http://en.communpedia.org/Essay:How_to_stop_capitalism,_in_your_everyday_lif e

[The Feral Underclass]

Sound advice.

[DOOM]

This is a perfect example of how ML-ism is a petty-bourgeois ideology, or at least regressed into one. It's reaking of lifestyleism and moralism. The whole opposition against big corporations and consumerism is something which is fairly widespread within the liberal-leftist milieu and I'm not wondering about the correlation here.

"Remember not to confuse the country with the state"
Wtf?

[Sasha]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/12/what_it_was_like_to_teach_essay_writing_to_north_k orean_graduate_students.html

[motion denied]

Kill any KKK followers or nazis you see when you have the chance to do so... make sure no one dies

rite

[Tim Cornelis]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/12/what_it_was_like_to_teach_essay_writing_to_north_k orean_graduate_students.html

Everything you read about North Korea is hopeless, disturbing, and sad.

[Tim Cornelis]

"He successfully industrialized the Soviet Union, developed nuclear technology, created functioning healthcare and education systems, and defeated the German invasion of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War."

http://en.communpedia.org/Stalin

Wow. That, is, amazing. He must be a super-master-über genius.

[Sasha]

He also shot lasers from his eyes...

[RedWorker]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/12/what_it_was_like_to_teach_essay_writing_to_north_k orean_graduate_students.html

I liked the article, but it seems to me like some stuff is faked or grossly exaggerated. There's no way a country can work when its university students are literally unable to write a five-paragraph essay or even cite a source.

[RedWorker]

If you know Spanish, you can read loads of stupid tankie crap at http://forocomunista.com.

[Sasha]

I liked the article, but it seems to me like some stuff is faked or grossly exaggerated. There's no way a country can work when its university students are literally unable to write a five-paragraph essay or even cite a source.

College students not university. Think it was some elite prep school, not a serious university. Though I heard similar stories from other people who visited there, obviously terror is, contrary to what the pundits want us to believe, only a small part of the survival of the regime, I think north Korean society does resemble a massive cult, the threat of terror is there but for the majority of the people its not what keeps them in line, if you control information and education you are already halfway, people can be very happy and content in a cult.

[RedWorker]

"Pyongyang University of Science and Technology"

[Bala Perdida]

If you know Spanish, you can read loads of stupid tankie crap at http://forocomunista.com.
http://youtu.be/dVG-4Klw6mY

[Tim Cornelis]

I liked the article, but it seems to me like some stuff is faked or grossly exaggerated. There's no way a country can work when its university students are literally unable to write a five-paragraph essay or even cite a source.

North Korea barely works.

[Creative Destruction]

"Pyongyang University of Science and Technology"

They don't know or understand the ins and outs of the Internet there, which, without, is almost impossible to build an institution around science and technology these days, even on a basic level that is up to the standards of the rest of the world. It's also considered an elite school in NK. If the country's elite institution of "Science and Technology" doesn't even have a grasp on the Internet, then it's not surprising to me, at all, that students probably do not have that great of a grasp on many other things.

[Comrade #138672]

"2#. Do NOT support nazis"

Good to know. I almost forgot. Something worth to remember.

[Tim Cornelis]

Good to know. I almost forgot. Something worth to remember.

Well with all the Stalinist support for Alexander Dugin's political project of Novorossiya, it's not so obvious after all.

[Dodo]

Stalinism is quiet dominant in radical groups in Turkey so these are not joke materials for me :D

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/12/what_it_was_like_to_teach_essay_writing_to_north_k orean_graduate_students.html

author has a huge fucked up superiority complex

[motion denied]

Stalinism is quiet dominant in radical groups in Turkey so these are not joke materials for me :D

Outside Western Europe and US, roughly, I think Marxism, nationalism/patriotism and Stalinism are synonymous.

[Slavic]

author has a huge fucked up superiority complex

That was my observation almost imediatly when reading the article.

I understand how shitty living in DPRK must be, but the author sounds like an anthropologist.

"Look how these barbarians use rocks to crack the shellfish; so primitive."

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Outside Western Europe and US, roughly, I think Marxism, nationalism/patriotism and Stalinism are synonymous.

what?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

That was my observation almost imediatly when reading the article.

I understand how shitty living in DPRK must be, but the author sounds like an anthropologist.

"Look how these barbarians use rocks to crack the shellfish; so primitive."

all of her frustration with her students evidently stems from the fact that they refuse to view their own situation and the world thru her "enlightened" american lens and it's fucking pathetic

[motion denied]

what?

I'll try to develop it from Brazil's workers' movement.

The main force withing the proletariat from XIXth century until the Russian Revolution were mutualism and anarcho-syndicalism (gotta remember COB/AIT , general strike of 1917, failed Rio de Janeiro upheaval of 1918 and so on), principally because of European emigrés. After that, as a qualitative change, some anarchists could found the Communist Party (PCdoB) in 1922. Okay, nothing new here.

The newly found party could attend the IV Congress of the Comintern, being allowed to join it in the V Congress. However, by this time, with the South American Secretariat already functioning, the hegemonic thesis were that of the bloc of four classes for the "colonial and semi-colonial countries" (alliance between proletariat, peasantry, democrats and intellectuals). As we would expect from stalinist "theory", the following years brought a radical 180 degrees change on policy: proletarization of the party against the "petty-bourgeois intellectuals", that is the [I]original leadership of the party, Astrojildo Pereira (expelled from the CC), Octávio Brandão (threatened with expulsion), Leôncio Basbaum (expelled but later reintegrated) etc. From the very beginning, influenced by the Comintern, the struggle was against Imperialism and the latifundia, allied with the Bloc of four classes ('Bloco Operário Camponês' comes to mind).

Valuable marxists such as Mário Pedrosa (expelled in 29, accused of Trotskyism), Lívio Xavier and all those who created the "Grupo Comunista Lenin" should not be forgotten. The second generation of the left opposition to the stalinist CP, Hermínio Sacchetta, Florestan Fernandes, Maurício Tragtenberg (my man) and others should be praised because of another serious Marxian investigation, rejecting "Brazilian feudalism" (LMAO) and class collaboration so loved by the official Communists.

Throughout this country's history, the thesis later famous by the PCB, ISEB and CEPAL of structural duality, despite its differences, led to similar political conclusions: national-developmentalism. Of course nowadays only the most degenerate Stalinists still hold on to these: on one hand PCdoB; on the other, ultra voluntarist crazy maoist PPW warriors.

Even the heirs of left opposition are millions and a joke; PCB did break with Stalinist past, ma non troppo, their analysis is interesting though.

Finally, what I mean is: 'our' left was formed from Stalinist/nationalist assumptions. People still uphold stalinist hacks such as Prestes; and those to the left of it were too marginal to be something.

(Granted many Stalinists have a great history of fighting alongside the working class for what they thought was the path to socialism. But believing does not make anyone innocent of political and theoretical blindness).

[motion denied]

The heirs of the left oppostion are millions of small cults, I forgot to add (no offense).

Of course there were great intellectuals on the PC orbit, such as Caio Prado Júnior, José Chasin, Leandro Konder, Carlos Nelson Coutinho etc. No wonder they were marginalized/outed of the party. Forgot to mention POLOP, very important peeps too.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

i dig what youre saying. tho your original assertion, applied to brazil, still depends on how you define marxism, stalinism and nationalism in brazil. it sounds like youre conflating "only the most degenerate Stalinists" with marxism in brazil as a whole. how marxist and nationalist is the pcdob, really? or even stalinist. if were talking about political discourse, nationalism certainly doesnt belong to "marxists" solely. im also not fully convinced of the stalinist roots of national developmentalism that you might be suggesting here. tho it's an interesting question.

[The Intransigent Faction]

They don't know or understand the ins and outs of the Internet there.

Funny. I tried to point this out to someone recently who accepted the official U.S. explanation for the Sony hack that "North Korea is responsible". Naturally, it was promptly clarified that "It's wrong to say they don't have the knowledge or technical ability to hack." Even when I pressed her on the possibility of it being Chinese hackers leaving a deliberately misleading trail, she wouldn't budge.

So...do 'they', or don't 'they', understand those ins and outs, or does this conveniently change depending on what one wants to believe about the North Korean regime (which is, let me emphasize, a horrid one) and its capabilities?

[JazzRemington]

Do not become nationalist nor racist, remember the state is not the country, and remember a capitalist state has nothing to be proud of. However, you can be proud of your country's people, culture, language, but without thinking your country is superior to others. Remember not to confuse the country with the state.

wat?