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synthesis
9th December 2014, 05:01
I think this is gonna be a bigger deal than it might sound like at the moment; read on.


Security has been stepped up at US facilities around the world ahead of the release of a report expected to reveal details of harsh CIA interrogations, the White House says.

Embassies and other sites were taking precautions amid "some indications" of "greater risk", a spokesman said.

A 480-page summary of the Senate report is due to be released on Tuesday.

It is expected to detail the CIA's campaign against al-Qaeda in the aftermath of 9/11.

As well as detailing the controversial methods used by CIA operatives in an effort to extract information from high-value suspects, the report is expected to say harsh interrogations failed to deliver appropriate results.

Publication of the report has been delayed amid disagreements in Washington over what should be made public.

The full 6,000-page report, produced by the Senate Intelligence Committee, remains classified.

The 480-page summary is being released by Democrats on the panel.

President Barack Obama halted the CIA interrogation programme when he took office in 2009, and has acknowledged that the methods used to question al-Qaeda prisoners amounted to torture.

During the presidency of George W Bush, the CIA operation against al-Qaeda - known internally as the Rendition, Detention and Interrogation - saw as many as 100 suspected terrorists held in "black sites" outside the US.

They were interrogated using methods such as waterboarding, slapping, humiliation, exposure to cold, and sleep deprivation.

Leaks about the Senate report first emerged in August this year, prompting Mr Obama to declare: "We did some things that were contrary to our values."

The US president added that he believed officials at the time had used harsh methods because of the "enormous pressure" to prevent another attack on the US in the wake of 9/11.

A previous investigation into the programme, by the US justice department, ended with no criminal charges in 2012 - a result that angered civil rights organisations.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters on Monday that the Obama administration welcomed the impending release, but said there were "some indications" it could increase the risk to US facilities across the world.

"The administration has taken the prudent steps to ensure that the proper security precautions are in place." Mr Earnest said.

Secretary of State John Kerry had earlier asked Senate Intelligence chair Dianne Feinstein to "consider" changing the timing of the report.

But Mr Earnest told reporters it would be "difficult to imagine" an ideal time to make the summary public.

Despite reports that CIA operatives went beyond legal interrogation limits imposed by the Bush administration, the former president has led the charge against the report's release, defending the CIA on US TV.

"We're fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the CIA serving on our behalf," he told CNN on Sunday.

"These are patriots and whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off-base."

Others have joined Mr Bush to dismiss the as-yet unreleased report (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-30383600), including reports it will say the CIA misled key members of the Bush administration about the programme.

"We're not here to defend torture," former CIA Director Michael Hayden told the New York Times ahead of the release. "We're here to defend history."

The full report is the outcome of years of research by the Senate intelligence panel, currently controlled by Democrats. Republicans on the committee are expected to release their own report.

The panel first voted to make the executive summary public in April.Check back in tomorrow.

RedWorker
9th December 2014, 05:29
Fuck Bush.

RebelDog
9th December 2014, 07:19
"We're fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the CIA serving on our behalf,"

Just to clarify, he means the wealthiest 1%

synthesis
9th December 2014, 07:22
Fuck Bush.

Yeah, seriously. I'd forgotten how viscerally irritating he could be, and then I read him saying that even though he swears he has no idea what the reports contain, he's still totally sure that they're "way off-base," guys.

Brandon's Impotent Rage
9th December 2014, 18:48
It's been released. (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/09/world/cia-torture-report-document.html)

It's as bad as you think it is. Perhaps even worse.

synthesis
9th December 2014, 20:30
There's a part about how they pureed some hummus, pasta, nuts and raisins and inserted it into a guy's rectum. The CIA then defended "rectal feeding" as a "legitimate medical technique."

motion denied
9th December 2014, 20:37
Basically reports on torture?

Wait, re-reading it, that's really it.

Sasha
9th December 2014, 20:59
There's a part about how they pureed some hummus, pasta, nuts and raisins and inserted it into a guy's rectum. The CIA then defended "rectal feeding" as a "legitimate medical technique."

He was on hungerstrike, force feeding him, esp that way was certainly a horrendous crime but wheter its torture? Found it a bit gross everybody is jumping on that rather minor section and not on the larger picture in which this happend.

synthesis
10th December 2014, 04:44
He was on hungerstrike, force feeding him, esp that way was certainly a horrendous crime but wheter its torture? Found it a bit gross everybody is jumping on that rather minor section and not on the larger picture in which this happend.

What I've read seems to indicate that the rectal feedings were done without "any documented medical need." In fact the chief of interrogations in 2003 specifically requested the use of rectal "rehydration" as a means of, and I quote, attaining "total control over the detainee," in this case Khalid Sheikh Muhammed.

The Most Gruesome Moments in the CIA ‘Torture Report’

The CIA’s rendition, interrogation, and detention programs were even more nightmarish than you could imagine.


Interrogations that lasted for days on end. Detainees forced to stand on broken legs, or go 180 hours in a row without sleep. A prison so cold, one suspect essentially froze to death. The Senate Intelligence Committee is finally releasing its review of the CIA’s detention and interrogation programs. And it is brutal.


Here are some of the most gruesome moments of detainee abuse from a summary of the report, obtained by The Daily Beast:


‘Well Worn’ Waterboards

The CIA has previously said that only three detainees (http://www.propublica.org/article/the-bush-administrations-oft-repeated-and-now-challenged-waterboarding-clai) were ever waterboarded: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah, and Abd Al Rahim al-Nashiri. But records uncovered by the Senate Intelligence Committee suggest there may have been more than three subjects. The Senate report describes a photograph of a “well worn” waterboard, surrounded by buckets of water, at a detention site where the CIA has claimed it never subjected a detainee to this procedure. In a meeting with the CIA in 2013, the agency was not able to explain the presence of this waterboard.


Near Drowning

Contrary to CIA’s description to the Department of Justice, the Senate report says that the waterboarding was physically harmful, leading to convulsions and vomiting. During one session, detainee Abu Zubaydah became “completely unresponsive with bubbles rising through his open full mouth.” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded at least 183 times, which the Senate report describes as escalating into a “series of near drownings.”


The Dungeon-Like ‘Salt Pit’

Opened in Sept. 2002, this “poorly managed” detention facility was the second site opened by the CIA after the 9/11 attacks. The Senate report refers to it by the pseudonym Cobalt, but details of what happened there indicate that it’s a notorious “black site” in Afghanistan known as the Salt Pit. Although the facility kept few formal records, the committee concluded that untrained CIA operatives conducted unauthorized, unsupervised interrogation there.


A Senate aide who briefed reporters on the condition that he not be identified said that the Cobalt site was run by a junior officer with no relevant experience, and that this person had “issues” in his background that should have disqualified him from working for the CIA at all. The aide didn’t specify what those issues were, but suggested that the CIA should have flagged them. The committee found that some employees at the site lacked proper training and had “histories of violence and mistreatment of others.”


Standing on Broken Legs

In November 2002, a detainee who had been held partially nude and chained to the floor died, apparently from hypothermia. This case appears similar to the that of Gul Rahman (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36071994/ns/us_news-security/#.VIb_KGTF_8U), who died of similarly explained causes at an Afghan site known as the “Salt Pit,” also in November 2002. The site was also called “The Dark Prison” (http://www.post-gazette.com/news/world/2011/07/01/Justice-probing-CIA-in-deaths-of-2-detainees/stories/201107010202) by former captives.


The aide said that the Cobalt site was was dark, like a dungeon, and that experts who visited the site said they’d never seen an American prison where people were kept in such conditions. The facility was so dark in some places that guard had to wear head lamps, while other rooms were flooded with bright lights and white noise to disorient detainees.


At the Cobalt facility, the CIA also forced some detainees who had broken feet or legs to stand in stress-inducing positions, despite having earlier pledged that they wouldn’t subject those wounded individuals to treatment that might exacerbate their injuries.


Non-stop Interrogation

Starting with Abu Zubaydah, and following with other detainees, the CIA deployed the harshest techniques from the beginning without trying to first elicit information in an “open, non-threatening manner,” the committee found. The torture continued nearly non-stop, for days or weeks at a time.


The CIA instructed personnel at the site that the interrogation of Zubaydah, who’d been shot during his capture, should take “precedence over his medical care,” the committee found, leading to an infection in a bullet wound incurred during his capture. Zubaydah lost his left eye while in custody. The CIA’s instructions also ran contrary to how it told the Justice Department the prisoner would be treated.

Forced Rectal Feeding and Worse

At least five detainees were subjected to “rectal feeding” or “rectal hydration,” without any documented medical need. “While IV infusion is safe and effective,” one officer wrote (https://twitter.com/EliClifton/status/542359455716098048/photo/1), rectal hydration could be used as a form of behavior control.


Others were deprived of sleep, which could involve staying awake for as long as 180 hours—sometimes standing, sometimes with their hands shackled above their heads.


Some detainees were forced to walk around naked, or shackled with their hands above their heads. In other instances, naked detainees were hooded and dragged up and down corridors while subject to physical abuse.


At one facility, detainees were kept in total darkness and shackled in cells with loud noise or music, and only a bucket to use for waste.


Lost Detainees

While the CIA has said publicly that it held about 100 detainees, the committee found that at least 119 people were in the agency’s custody.


“The fact is they lost track and they didn’t really know who they were holding,” the Senate aide said, noting that investigators found emails in which CIA personnel were “surprised” to find some people in their custody.



The CIA also determined that at least 26 of its detainees were wrongfully held. Due to the agency’s poor record-keeping, it may never be known precisely how many detainees were held, and how they were treated in custody, the committee found.


No Blockbuster Intelligence

The report will conclude that the CIA’s interrogation techniques never yielded any intelligence about imminent terrorist attacks. Investigators didn’t conclude that no information came from the program at all. Rather, the committee rejects the CIA’s contention that information came from the program that couldn’t have been obtained through other means.


“When you put detainees through these [torture sessions] they will say whatever they can say to get the interrogations to stop,” the Senate aide said.



The Senate Intelligence Committee reviewed 20 cited examples of intelligence “successes” that the CIA identified from the interrogation program and found that there was no relationship between a cited counterterrorism success and the techniques used. Furthermore, the information gleaned during torture sessions merely corroborated information already available to the intelligence community from other sources, including reports, communications intercepts, and information from law-enforcement agencies, the committee found. The CIA had told policymakers and the Department of Justice that the information from torture was unique or “otherwise unavailable.” Such information comes from the “kind of good national-security tradecraft that we rely on to stop terrorist plots at all times,” the Senate aide said.


In developing the enhanced interrogation techniques, the report said, the CIA failed to review the historical use of coercive interrogations. The resulting techniques were described as “discredited coercive interrogation techniques such as those used by torturous regimes during the Cold War to elicit false confessions,” according to the committee. The CIA acknowledged that it never properly reviewed the effectiveness of these techniques, despite the urging of the CIA inspector general, congressional leadership, and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.


Contractors and Shrinks

The CIA relied on two outside contractors who were psychologists with experience at the Air Force’s Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape school to help develop, run, and assess the interrogation program. Neither had experience as an interrogator, nor any specialized knowledge of al Qaeda, counterterrorism, or relevant linguistic expertise, the committee found. In 2005, these two psychologists formed a company, and following this the CIA outsourced virtually all aspects of the interrogation program to them. The company was paid more than $80 million by the CIA.


Lies to the President

An internal report by the CIA, known as the Panetta Review, found that there were numerous inaccuracies in the way the agency represented the effectiveness of interrogation techniques—and that the CIA misled the president about this. The CIA’s records also contradict the evidence the agency provided of some “thwarted” terrorist attacks and the capture of suspects, which the CIA linked to the use of these enhanced techniques.



The Senate’s report also concludes that there were cases in which White House questions were not answered truthfully or completely.


Cover-Ups

In the early days of the program, CIA officials briefed the leadership of the House Intelligence Committee. Few records of that session remain, but Senate investigators found a draft summary of the meeting, written by a CIA lawyers, that notes lawmakers “questioned the legality of these techniques.” But the lawyer deleted that line from the final version of the summary. The Senate investigators found that Jose Rodriguez, once the CIA’s top spy and a fierce defender of the interrogation program, made a note on the draft approving of the deletion: “Short and sweet,” Rodriguez wrote of the newly revised summary that failed to mention lawmakers’ concerns about the legality of the program.


Threats to Mothers

CIA officers threatened (https://twitter.com/EliClifton/status/542357830599458816/photo/1) to harm detainees’ children, sexually abuse their mothers, and “cut [a detainee’s] mother’s throat.” In addition, several detainees were led to believe they would die in custody, with one told he would leave in a coffin-shaped box.


Detainees wouldn’t see their day in court because “we can never let the world know what I have done to you,” one interrogator said.


Sexual Assault by Interrogators


Officers in the CIA’s Detention and Interrogation Program included (https://twitter.com/EliClifton/status/542367430149160960/photo/1) individuals who the committee said, “among other things, had engaged in inappropriate detainee interrogations, had workplace anger management issues, and had reportedly admitted to sexual assault.”


(sauce (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/09/the-most-gruesome-moments-in-the-cia-torture-report.html))

Red Banana
10th December 2014, 06:13
Lost Detainees

"The CIA also determined that at least 26 of its detainees were wrongfully held. Due to the agency’s poor record-keeping, it may never be known precisely how many detainees were held, and how they were treated in custody, the committee"

Because if there's one thing intelligence agencies are known for, it's their poor job at collecting information:rolleyes:. I'm sure their paper shredders were running full speed during this review.

The Intransigent Faction
10th December 2014, 07:54
Because if there's one thing intelligence agencies are known for, it's their poor job at collecting information:rolleyes:. I'm sure their paper shredders were running full speed during this review.

That might help to explain how they ended up torturing their own informants.

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/12/9/7361195/cia-torture-report-informants

BIXX
10th December 2014, 08:11
Because if there's one thing intelligence agencies are known for, it's their poor job at collecting information:rolleyes:. I'm sure their paper shredders were running full speed during this review.
Most intelligence agencies actually are really bad at collecting information.

BIXX
10th December 2014, 08:21
Here is something about MI5, I wonder if there is anything similar for the CIA/NSA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/BUGGER

Red Banana
10th December 2014, 14:14
Most intelligence agencies actually are really bad at collecting information.

When they want to be, of course. One of, if not the, key purpose(s) of intelligence agencies is the collection of information. I wouldn't underestimate the ability of the intelligence apparatus of the world's premier bourgeois state to fulfill this purpose, especially regarding the operations of their own agency.

Red Son
10th December 2014, 15:14
Nothing too shocking about the revelations (Taxi to the Dark Side said all I needed to hear about US policy for detainees) or the reaction (Cheney and that shower of fuckers will defend their actions to the bitter end, with FOX and others backing them). It is disgusting and heads should roll but they never will - post 9/11 the attitude of most people (policy-makers especially) was 'we're at war, anything goes' and that attitude remains now.
The 'truth' of what the report says will fall along partisan lines, as these things always do, and it will likely be forgotten early in the New Year...which is profoundly depressing, if not surprising.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
10th December 2014, 15:52
Oh it's clearly a partisan tactic, the democrats have made a big point of ensuring everyone knows that they ended this program in 2009 when they got executive control, they of course fail to mention the bi-partisan support this program had for the previous 8 years.

Dr. Rosenpenis
12th December 2014, 14:26
washington has been given the opportunity to prosecute the guilty parties and partially redeem itself. but this will never happen. a good reminder of the fact that human rights have never been and will never be the motive behind their wars. it's actually kind of amusing to see americans paint their "enemies" as barbarians and at the same time go to such great lengths to justify torture

RedWorker
12th December 2014, 15:12
Nice "enhanced interrogation techniques", assholes. Later they say there's no reason to overthrow the bourgeois state in the 21th century. Also, fuck that totalitarian cult around American civil religion including 9/11.