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VCrakeV
8th December 2014, 19:11
For a long time, I've had the notion that life is very unfair. Recently, I decided to believe that the fairness in life is not going to change anytime soon. At the same time, I decided to do my best to avoid anything and everything I reasonably can that is unfair. Any tips?

I've already decided to give up on anything competitive: sports, competitive games, etc. I also want to try to make life more fair (for myself, of course; I don't expect to be able to change the whole world in one lifetime), but it's a daunting task to take on, because I'm a little lost as to where to start.

motion denied
8th December 2014, 19:15
A tip? Don't do it, very bad choice. Don't give up sports - let alone competitive ones. There's no problem with competing.

The Disillusionist
8th December 2014, 19:19
I also want to try to make life more fair (for myself, of course; I don't expect to be able to change the whole world in one lifetime)

This is where you lost me. If you aren't going to bother with the large scale, don't bother at all. That's not how fairness works. As the saying goes, nobody is equal until everyone is equal.

VCrakeV
8th December 2014, 19:28
This is where you lost me. If you aren't going to bother with the large scale, don't bother at all. That's not how fairness works. As the saying goes, nobody is equal until everyone is equal.

I'm lost my own self. I guess what I meant was to make things more fair that involve me. That is, I'm not going involve myself with everyone who is being unfair, simply because no one has the time in their life to do much outside of their personal life.

@Pilantra: I never did play much sports to begin with. It mostly applies to games, because I play them a lot. That said, what's good with competition in any scenario?

VCrakeV
13th December 2014, 15:35
A tip? Don't do it, very bad choice. Don't give up sports - let alone competitive ones. There's no problem with competing.

After some thinking, I've decided to take this advice. Maybe life's not about being fair, but learning to live with obstacles.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
13th December 2014, 15:54
competitive sports is not an obstacle. You are confusing political opposition to economic competition, with social competition in sports. As long as respect and sportsmanship/individual sport rules are followed, then competition in sports is a welcome thing.

VCrakeV
13th December 2014, 16:01
competitive sports is not an obstacle. You are confusing political opposition to economic competition, with social competition in sports. As long as respect and sportsmanship/individual sport rules are followed, then competition in sports is a welcome thing.

I just used sports as an example. In actuality, I rarely play them. However, I do compete (in video games, card games, etc.). In competition, it's very easy to be cheated, especially outside of traditional sports. People can count cards, rig shuffles, disobey clauses, etc.

Another obstacle is the nature of games as well as clauses/rules. For example, in games of tactical combat, there may be a base chance to hit with a certain move. You're at the luck of the draw. If you miss, and your opponent hits, you just have to deal with it.

And about rules/clauses, it's very hard for everyone to agree upon certain clauses. What's allowed, what's not allowed. I can provide some examples, but I believe you understand.

Futility Personified
13th December 2014, 16:09
There's a thread on here somewhere, called things communism is not.

I suggest you look at it, it'll put things into perspective for you on ethical / political compromise.

consuming negativity
13th December 2014, 17:01
the problem isn't with competition in games the problem is with the fact that real life is the equivalent to a giant monopoly board in which all the properties are taken and decked out with hotels

and all of the owners have under-the-table agreements not to charge each other rent

and then they give us money for working for them which we use to pay them rent every time we roll the dice

and if we can't afford it we're called lazy and aren't allowed to play anymore

Slavic
13th December 2014, 17:39
the problem isn't with competition in games the problem is with the fact that real life is the equivalent to a giant monopoly board in which all the properties are taken and decked out with hotels

and all of the owners have under-the-table agreements not to charge each other rent

and then they give us money for working for them which we use to pay them rent every time we roll the dice

and if we can't afford it we're called lazy and aren't allowed to play anymore

: D

Loving the monopoly analogy.

You keep going in a circle trying your hardest to amass capital and avoid jail and debt only to eventually go bankrupt. Only one person can win the game of monopoly.

consuming negativity
14th December 2014, 02:51
: D

Loving the monopoly analogy.

You keep going in a circle trying your hardest to amass capital and avoid jail and debt only to eventually go bankrupt. Only one person can win the game of monopoly.
it is by design; the creator was purposefully making a game to model capitalism

which in the context of monopoly today is both sad and hilarious

but yeah, all I did was elaborate to make the analogy

Slavic
15th December 2014, 01:19
it is by design; the creator was purposefully making a game to model capitalism

which in the context of monopoly today is both sad and hilarious

but yeah, all I did was elaborate to make the analogy


Makes you almost feel sad for the petite-bourgeoisie and the never ending quest for capital.

socialistlawyer
22nd December 2014, 23:10
One of life's basic lessons is how to deal with Right-wingers in the workplace. If you can handle things revealing your political leanings in the workplace it is ok but you have to deal with difficult matters because they are really going to make it hard for you. My suggestion to the Left community is to have lawyers ready at the spur of the moment to handle cases of Leftists wrongfully dismissed from the workplace because of political discrimination. Oh, I tell you, plenty of instances had I heard.

DAN E BOY
23rd December 2014, 00:56
This is where you lost me. If you aren't going to bother with the large scale, don't bother at all. That's not how fairness works. As the saying goes, nobody is equal until everyone is equal.


Come on now give the guy a break,sounds like he's really down on his luck. I understand what you're saying about equality but surely being supportive of one another is important as well?

Thats why i joined this group.

Sewer Socialist
24th December 2014, 04:31
On the topic of games, have you ever played Dungeons and Dragons? You sit around a table where one of your comrades has a world for you to explore. You roleplay and your character has unlimited options of things to try or decide. You are in a party of about 3-5 other comrades, and usually ya'll cooperate to accomplish whatever you'd like. You could decide to establish a cooperative farm and roleplay that if you really want, but the interesting gameplay comes from conflict, usually with the monsters and demons you encounter as you explore the world.

If you just want to avoid all conflict, well, I have some bad news for you about the history of the world...

VCrakeV
24th December 2014, 20:48
On the topic of games, have you ever played Dungeons and Dragons? You sit around a table where one of your comrades has a world for you to explore. You roleplay and your character has unlimited options of things to try or decide. You are in a party of about 3-5 other comrades, and usually ya'll cooperate to accomplish whatever you'd like. You could decide to establish a cooperative farm and roleplay that if you really want, but the interesting gameplay comes from conflict, usually with the monsters and demons you encounter as you explore the world.

If you just want to avoid all conflict, well, I have some bad news for you about the history of the world...

I love D&D, especially since it's cooperative. ^_^

Yeah, humanity hasn't been doing too well in that department, unfortunately...

BIXX
24th December 2014, 20:56
I love D&D,

I saw this in my Tapatalk feed and thought
"Bullshit

Nobody here loves me"

That said I love dungeons and dragons even though I have only really played once because my party never got their shit together and met up again, I had a lot of fun.

Sewer Socialist
2nd January 2015, 08:23
Yeah, that's probably the norm for D&D, unfortunately. Sooner or later, it fizzles out, and mostly sooner.