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consuming negativity
27th November 2014, 05:21
This past Saturday, a "rookie cop" in Cleveland, Ohio shot a 12 year old boy. Yesterday, a video was released of the shooting (should be obvious, but a child dies in this video, although it isn't very graphic, so be warned that you might not want to watch this):

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/11/video_of_tamir_rice_shooting_b.html

Article text:



One moment Tamir Rice was stomping on a snowball like any 12-year-old kid might do and the next he was shot and fatally wounded by a Cleveland police officer. The details of how this tragic shooting went down still need to be fleshed out, but based on a surveillance video of the shooting at Cudell Recreation Center on Cleveland's West Side, the police have a lot of explaining to do.

Not the least of which is why the two officers involved failed to immediately give first aid to the fallen boy. It wasn't until an FBI agent who happened to be in the area (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/cleveland_police_officers_wait.html#incart_big-photo)arrived four minutes later that Tamir was given any such attention.

The account Cleveland police gave of the shooting by a rookie police officer does not seem to match what the video reveals.

The police said two officers, responding to a 9-1-1 call, went to the park and saw Tamir take what they thought was a pistol from a table under a gazebo in the park and stuff it in his waistband. Police said that the boy was sitting with a group at the time.

Police also said that the officers told Tamir three times to raise his hands, and that when he reached for what they thought was a real pistol, he was shot.

The video, however, shows officers in a cruiser pull up within several feet of Rice, who was not with a group, but by himself underneath a gazebo. Immediately, even before the car stops rolling, the cruiser's passenger side door opens, an officer emerges and fires at Tamir, who drops to the ground.

Deputy Police Chief Ed Tomba said the officers ordered Tamir to "show your hands" three times from the ajar passenger door, but it's hard to believe that's possible based on the video.

The shot that struck Tamir appears to have been fired the very moment the officer stands up after getting out of the car. If this is the proper technique for confronting an armed gunman, let alone a 12-year-old boy with a toy gun, one has to wonder what training manual they are consulting.

Why did the officers drive right up to Tamir? Why didn't they park further away, climb out of their car and shield themselves with a door or another section of the car, and then order Tamir to drop his weapon?

As we said, the police have a lot of explaining to do.

Red Son
27th November 2014, 09:15
Read about this yesterday, horrible tragedy. No doubt the same ugly dance of blaming the kid for having the toy and exonerating (sp?) the cop who was just doing his duty will follow.

Sasha
27th November 2014, 09:22
yup, seen everybody blamed from the kid to his parents to the toy manufacturers to rap video's. anyone but the cops and paranoid racist society.

A 12 YEAR OLD WAS SHOT TO DEATH IN A MOTHERFUCKIN PLAYGROUND BY COPS WITHIN SECONDS OF THEIR ARIVAL WITHOUT EVEN FUCKING EXITING THE CAR....

GiantMonkeyMan
28th November 2014, 19:56
They released the recordings of the phone call to the cops, the exchange between the cop dispatch and the car etc at the urging of Tamir's parents. The guy phoning the cops was saying "it's a young man waving around a gun, it's probably a fake one but it's scaring the shit out of me" and the phone operator said "what colour skin does he have?". And then from the dispatch to the cops on patrol "a black male in their twenties is acting threatening" or something. Seemed pretty twisted. - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30214859

Tsiolkovsky on the Moon
28th November 2014, 20:40
Pretty despicable. Although I always expect another incident like this to occur, it always managed to shock me whenever it happens because it's always worse than I expected.

jullia
9th December 2014, 01:54
Sad.

There is really a problem in the cop education in USA. It's like they look some pitty hollywood action movie instead of learning how manage a potential dangerous situation.

consuming negativity
2nd March 2015, 10:50
The death of Tamir Rice was “directly and proximately” caused by the 12-year-old’s own actions, the city of Cleveland has argued in a defense document following a civil claim from the boy’s family. Rice was shot dead by a police officer (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/26/tamir-rice-video-shows-boy-shot-police-cleveland) last November.

When he was shot, Rice was holding a toy gun which police mistook for a real firearm. The incident sparked widespread criticism that officer Timothy Loehmann, who killed Rice (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/03/officer-who-fatally-shot-tamir-rice-had-been-judged-unfit), employed a drastic overuse of force.

The city of Cleveland’s defense, filed with the US district court (http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2015/02/city_of_cleveland_responds_to.html) on Friday, argues that both Rice and members of his family are to blame for any damages, injuries and losses arising from the incident. The argument lists 20 lines of defence, including that Rice did not “exercise due care to avoid injury” and that members of his family, including his mother and teenage sister, who have lodged the claim, sustained damages “caused by their own acts”.

Video footage of the incident (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/08/cleveland-police-handcuffed-sister-tamir-rice-lay-dying-video) outside the Cuddell Recreation Center in Cleveland was obtained by local media under freedom of information laws. It shows Rice’s 14-year-old sister pushed to ground, handcuffed and taken to the back of a patrol car after arriving on the scene and seeing her brother lying in front of her.

Video footage shows Tamir Rice's sister arriving at the scene of his shooting. The plaintiffs argue (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/tamir-rices-family-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-n297301) in a submission that was revised at the end of January, after the family took on a new legal team, that the 14-year-old screamed “my baby brother, they killed my baby brother” before she was tackled to the ground by officers.

The lawsuit also claims that Loehmann and his partner, Frank Garmback, did not administer first aid to the 12-year-old as he lay bleeding. It was four minutes until another law enforcement official arrived on the scene and administered medical assistance, the submission claims.

The city’s list of 20 defenses does not go into detail. A request for further comment from the Guardian on Sunday was not responded to by deadline.

Loehmann’s personnel file from November 2012, first reported by local media (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_police_officer_who_s.html#incart_m-rpt-1), found the officer “could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal”.

The city of Cleveland’s response to this argument is that it is “without knowledge or information sufficient” to assess the claims.

Walter Madison, one of the Rice family’s legal team, told NBC news (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/fatal-shooting-cleveland-boy-tamir-rice-was-caused-his-own-n314861) the plaintiffs maintained the 12 year-old was “shot and killed unnecessarily” and that his “death at the hands of an unfit police officer(s) and a division of police that continues to endorse their behavior led to our legitimate lawsuit”.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/01/tamir-rice-directly-proximately-responsible-police-shooting-death-city

Bala Perdida
2nd March 2015, 10:58
As of now, less than 24 hours ago: http://youtu.be/YKYHZ4U4g0g

FUCK THE POLICE! NO PEACE NO SYMPATHY! ONLY GOOD PIG IS A DEAD PIG! ACAB AND FTP TILL THE DAY I DIE! NO FREEDOM NO JUSTICE FOR ME IN AMERIKKKA! I DON'T CARE WHAT THEIR INDIVIDUAL INTENTIONS, CHECK THAT SHIT OUT ALL THOSE PIGS COLLABORATED IN THE MURDER ALL THOSE PIGS PARTICIPATED IN REPRESSING THE PEOPLE NOT ONE OF THEM TRIED TO STOP IT. SAME AS ALWAYS, SAME AS IT'LL EVER BE!

John Nada
2nd March 2015, 11:48
Let it all out.:crying:

That needs a new thread.