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Rad
24th November 2014, 14:12
Lately it seems fashionable to be anti carb? Why? Eat lots of fat but avoid carb. This is the mantra. Without lots of carbs, especially for those who work out, there is no energy to do anything.

There is also this misconception that carbs = belly fat. Actually too much calorie = belly fat. If calorie is controlled, even with high carb there is no storage of fat. So why can't people understand that excess calorie is the issue and NOT carb?

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
24th November 2014, 14:29
Well I mean yeah if people grasped proper nutrition then they probably wouldn't be jumping on a fad diet to begin with, because they probably wouldn't be heavy. Nutrition is confusing for a lot of people, no carb diets are easy to understand and can show results pretty quickly for some people. It's a combination of immediate gratification combined with a lack of education on the subject I would guess.

PhoenixAsh
24th November 2014, 14:59
Carbs are reactionary!!...o wait...this is the health forum.


There is nothing wrong with carbs perse. The problem arises when carbs take the form of certain sugars or when people eat too much carbs.

But one carb is not the other carb.

The impact some high glymic carbs have on bloodsugar however is a health factor as insuline spikes are rarely a good thing.

Carbs also load out quicker than fat. It requires more energy to burn fat rather than carbs. So that is the first energy source your body will use...which could negatively impact weightloss or, even worse, cause fat accumulation.

The mantra that excess calories cause fat is a huge simplification of the metabolic system. Some food sources or some chemical compositions of macro nutrients just don't impact your metabolic rate the same way. And they impact individuals differently.

So when we are talking about proteine....we are talking about certain proteine... (to clue you in...that fake snot you were playing with as a kid...as well as spider silk...are proteines) The same goes for Carbs and fat

Palmares
24th November 2014, 15:52
The etymology of the low or no carb diet stems from the paleo diet - the diet of humans during the palaeolithic period. It's premise is that the human diet evolved from a foraging lifestyle, and that our dietary switch with the advent of agriculture is ill-suited to our evolutionary biology.

Is this true? Perhaps. There seems to be some evidence for it. And certainly the food pyramids we all remember as children may well have been influenced by industry/market factors as opposed to health science.

However, I think it's dangerous to swallow any supposed diet whole. Unsurprisingly, given how controversial it is, the science is conflicting. To avoid risky health affects from major diet changes, for me, you're better simply having a balanced diet. Of course it can be beneficial to include or remove certain things from your diet to see how it affects you. This is infact a common practice for identifying food allergies.

On top of this, even if you believe the words behind a given diet, how easy it is to apply in practice can be a major issue. Unless you're living rurally where you can possibly source/grow/hunt your own food, it's likely you'll be spending a bit of money for this diet. The fact is, something like bread is cheap. Personally, I'd like to reduce the amount of carbs in my diet, but honestly, it ain't happening to quickly.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
24th November 2014, 16:07
The people I've seen on low/no carb diets generally havent actally changed what they eat, the just don't eat the bread portions of their normal meals. I was on a project with a dude for two weeks and we ended up eating together a lot. I was a vegetarian at the time and he made jokes about it non-stop, at meal times he would order a pizza and just scrape everything off the crust and eat that, or a burger and just eat everything but the bun etc. He had actually lost some weight doing this so Im sure in his mind he was eating a perfectly balanced diet. It was just really funny to have a dude slurping down cheese and peperoni for every meal trying to tell me how important meat was in a healthy diet.

The Feral Underclass
24th November 2014, 17:33
They turn into glucose and make me ill.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
24th November 2014, 17:46
That's probably your negative ion deficiency

The Feral Underclass
24th November 2014, 18:35
If only I had a pendulum.

Comrade #138672
24th November 2014, 19:05
Because some people are stupid enough to think they can do without.

The Feral Underclass
24th November 2014, 19:31
Because some people are stupid enough to think they can do without.

What about diabetics? Are diabetics stupid?

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
24th November 2014, 19:40
I assumed the OP was asking about carbs in relation to atkins, primal diets and the like, not people with actual heath needs that require them to avoid carbs.

The Feral Underclass
24th November 2014, 19:53
The question was why are "people" against carbs. People with health needs are people too.

Comrade #138672
24th November 2014, 20:23
What about diabetics? Are diabetics stupid?No, of course they aren't.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
24th November 2014, 20:24
Yeah but he's asking "why is it fashionable?". Plus I know you eat carbs you filthy liar, you admitted it in my thread last week. That thread exists soley for digging up dirt on my enemies. Wait until I throw dirty doxxer's mishandling of the til back at him in some future thread

Ceallach_the_Witch
24th November 2014, 20:27
carburetors are less efficient than fuel injection

The Feral Underclass
24th November 2014, 21:13
Eat a balanced, varied diet and exercise regularly. It's not rocket science.

Lord Testicles
25th November 2014, 15:19
"Explosion at the bottom, people at the top. It's not nutritional science." - Wernher von Braun.

The Feral Underclass
25th November 2014, 16:13
I don't get it.

Lord Testicles
26th November 2014, 20:57
I don't get it.

It's what Wernher von Braun said when NASA Administrator James E. Webb asked how rockets were going to put men on the moon.