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Pete
5th February 2004, 21:27
This is in particular for Felicia, just out of interest's sake. I call it the SUV of God, it is something else in Hebrew, but I don't really remeember it. I copied out the first chapter of Eziekel from my bible and it would take to long to send it over msn, so everyone can see this beast in all its glory!


I saw visions from God ... In my vision I saw a storm-wind coming from the north, a vast coloud with flashes of fire and brilliant light about it; and within was a radiance like brass, glowing in the heart of the flames. In the fire was the likeness of four living creatures in human form. Each had four faces and each four wings; their legs were straight, and their hoofs were like the hoofs of a calf, glistening and gleaming like bronze. Under the wings on each of the four sides were human hans; all four creatures had faces and wings, and the wings of one touched those of another. They did not turn as they moved; each crature went straight forward. This is what their faces were like: all four had a human face and a lion's face on the right, on the left the face of an ox and the face of an eagle. Their wings were spread upwards; each living creature had one pair touching those of its neighbour, while one pair covered its body. They moved forward in whatever direction the spirit went; they never swerved from their course. The appearance of the creatures was as if fire from burning coals or torches were darting to and from among them; the fire was radiant, and out of the fire came lightning.
As I looked at the living cratures, I saw wheels on the ground, one beside each of the four. The wheels sparkled like topaz, and they were all alike: in form and working they were like a wheel inside a wheel, and when they moved in any of the four direction they never swerved from their course. I saw that they had rims, and the rims were covered with eyes all around. When the lving cratures moved, the wheels moved beside them; when the creatures rose from the ground, the weheels rose; they moved in whichever direction the spirit went; and the wheels rose together with them, for the spirit of the creatures was in the wheels. When one moved the other moved; when one halted, the other halted; when the cratures rose from teh ground, the wheels rose togheter with them, for the spirit of the creatures was in the wheels.
Above the heads of the living cratures was, as it were, a vualt glittering like a sheet of ice, awe-inspiring, stretched over their heads above them. Under the vault their wings were spread straight out, touching one another, while on pair covered the body of each. I heard, too, the noise of their wings; when they moved it was like the noise of a mighty torrent or a thunderclap, like the noise of a crowd or an armed camp; when they halted their wings dropped. A voice was heard from above the vault over their heads, as they halted with drooping wings.
Above the vault over their heads there appeared, as it were, a sapphire in the shape of a throne, and exalted on the throne a form in human likeness. From his waist upwards I saw what might have been brass glowing like fire in a furnance; and from his waist downwards I saw what looked like fire. Radiance encircled him. Like a rainbow in the clouds after the rain was teh sight of that encircling radiance; it was like the appearance of the glory of the lord... Ezekiel 1.1 - 1.28

It reminds me of a space ship and was written after 597, yet before 587 (first exile and destruction of Jerusalem) BCE

Any Comments?

http://home.earthlink.net/~lyam/ezekiel.jpg

http://www.ordination.org/ezekiel-1.jpg

http://www.ufobc.ca/images/ezekiel.jpg

Felicia
5th February 2004, 21:30
Space ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to ***** slap you like Shiva!!!

http://www.caravan.ru/~jaya/shiva.jpg

Pete
5th February 2004, 21:33
Come come Felicia... That is hardly productive!

Siva wouldn't ***** slap anyone... he'd just open his third eye and unleash destructive force. I rather like Siva. He was cursed to be worshiped by he penis in one myth because he was too busy to talk to some mystics as he was having mad sex.

But about the SUV/Spaceship/manserkava (something like that)

Felicia
5th February 2004, 21:37
Shiva will slap with four hands and then roast you!!!


But yeah, that's really unusual that there are UFO-looking crafts in those paintings

hazard
6th February 2004, 00:50
hey are you guys fans of Erich Van Daniken?

despite the fact that he is as loopy as a doughnut, he constructs his arguments in an absolutelty hysterical way. picture kierkegaard but arguing on behalf of aliens constructing pyramids.

funnier than all fuck

Pete
6th February 2004, 01:21
I haven't read his work, but I have read some of Zecharia Setchins stuff, though tha tis based more in sumer.

pandora
11th February 2004, 01:15
The Book of Enoch contains strange codes that were to be entoned to communicate out with the universe, always reminded me of perhaps an ancient way of communicating with beings in other planets and realms. Was supposed to be connected with Jacob's Ladder.
Much of this was deep within mysticism and I've never spoken of it in a public circle, so perhaps I am being profane. Like the recent profaning by over exposre of the Qabbalah which were secret texts alluding to the female nature of God.

There is much in ancient texts that defies description, perhaps we can learn from them still. Martin Luther King blended sprituality and socialism, as did Ghandhi, even Bob Marley worked Revolutionary doctrine in with spirit. It strengthens the message, and departs from Marx. Martin Luther King's influences Reinhold Niebuhr [Moral Man and Immoral Society] and Walter Raushenbusch ["Christianity and the Social Crisis," 1907] were able to blend the two.
Niebuhr gets quite strong:
"A certain system of power, based upon the force which inheres in porperty, and augmented by the political power of the state is set against the demands of the worker," accoding to Niebur,"conflict is inevitable, and in this conflict power must be challenged by power."
I'm personally Tibetan Buddhist, because it stresses equanimity, mental peace, and focuses on liberation of the mind, that this is all a dream and on awakening.
Actually these below just help me with patience, do to my problems with "authority figures" I've gotten into heaps of trouble, these sorts of logic help me to chill out and think rationally, even when attacked.

"Anger destroys both peace of mind and peace in the world. The root cause of the two world wars and of all the wars being fought in varous parts of the world today is anger. On a smaller scale anger destroys our personal relationships" <span style='color:purple'>Venerable Geshe Kelsang Gyatso

The Patience of Not Retaliating
For example we can contemplate that if someone were to hit us with a stick we would not get angry with the stick because it was being wielded by the attacker and had no choice. In the same way, if someone insults us we should not get angry with them, because they are being manipulated by their deluded minds and have no choice. Similarly, we can think that just as a doctor does not get angry if a feverish patient lashes out at him, so we should not get angry if confused living beings suffering from the sickness of the delusions harm us in any way. -- Geshe Kelsang Gyatso</span>

Don't Change Your Name
14th February 2004, 19:35
Scary

This kind of things really scare me. There may be a link between old civilizations and "visitors", and especially there are many coincidences between different things. Of course this can be pure fantasy, but we can&#39;t prove that either.

Xvall
17th February 2004, 21:58
What the fuck are you people talking about? Ezikiel, if he really even existed, was probably just dropping acid. (Psilocybin, actually.) That picture says it as it is. If he did see a space ship, he was probably high while witnessing it too, because I don&#39;t know what the function of a fucking goat-wheel is.