North Korean war propaganda directed to American soldiers

[RedWorker]

http://www.psywarrior.com/NKoreaH.html

[The Disillusionist]

Haha. Well, it makes for some good comedy, that's for sure.

North Korea has so little credibility worldwide that the idea of North Korean propaganda is just hilarious to me. It's the juxtaposition between ridiculousness and seriousness, like Mickey Mouse reading Mein Kampf at the top of his lungs to a bunch of other cartoon characters. Sure, it's disturbing, and kinda-sorta dangerous, but you just have to laugh.

[John Nada]

Haha. Well, it makes for some good comedy, that's for sure.

North Korea has so little credibility worldwide that the idea of North Korean propaganda is just hilarious to me. It's the juxtaposition between ridiculousness and seriousness, like Mickey Mouse reading Mein Kampf at the top of his lungs to a bunch of other cartoon characters. Sure, it's disturbing, and kinda-sorta dangerous, but you just have to laugh.

And US propaganda's better?:lol: It's not the US killed 1/3 of north Korean.:rolleyes:

Most of DPRK's and PRC's propaganda was true. Killing and dieing for imperialists is bullshit.

[The Disillusionist]

I don't have any loyalty to the US, but North Korea is a deranged psychopath of a country. North Korea started the invasion, and today they're still being jerks about it. That propaganda, like most propaganda, isn't even remotely true.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

How did they manage to invade their own country? Korea had been arbitrarily divided by two foreign powers after being occupied and exploited by a different foreign power. The divide that exists between north and south today (cultural, intellectual, etc.) was not present in 1950, it was something that was imposed from outside during the cold war

[John Nada]

I don't have any loyalty to the US, but North Korea is a deranged psychopath of a country. North Korea started the invasion, and today they're still being jerks about it. That propaganda, like most propaganda, isn't even remotely true.Gee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_Uprising), I (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeosu-Suncheon_Rebellion) wonder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mungyeong_massacre) why? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre):confused:

The DPRK tried to liberate the rest of Korea because the right-wing US puppet Syngman Rhee was a tyrant who was massacring Communists and threaten to attack the north. Even the US was afraid he would, so they didn't give him all the weapons he wanted.

The US was even threatening to push through Korea all the way to Beijing, possibly with nukes. There's claims that the US used biological weapons against the Koreans.

The thing is, till the 90's the quality of life was better or comparable in the DPRK than the south. North Korea has a lot of mineral resources and was more industrialized than the south, which was mostly an agrarian economy at first because they had better soil. They went to shit when they defaulted on government loans. Then Gorbachev and Deng, who exerted social imperialist control over the DPRK, started demanding they pay up.

South Korea wasn't more democratic either, they were a right-wing autocracy till the 90's. The current president Park Geun-hye's father, Park Chung-hee, was an autocrat who collaborated with Japanese fascist.

We should be wary of US propaganda too. The US is still technically at war with DPRK. They have a reason to demonize a member of the "Axis of Evil". Is the DPRK a worker's paradise? No, it's probably about what a third-world country under siege by the Empire would be like.

[Hrafn]

And US propaganda's better?:lol: It's not the US killed 1/3 of north Korean.:rolleyes:

Most of DPRK's and PRC's propaganda was true. Killing and dieing for imperialists is bullshit.

US propaganda is certainly better. Look at how many falls for it.

[The Disillusionist]

Gee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_Uprising), I (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeosu-Suncheon_Rebellion) wonder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mungyeong_massacre) why? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre):confused:

The DPRK tried to liberate the rest of Korea because the right-wing US puppet Syngman Rhee was a tyrant who was massacring Communists and threaten to attack the north. Even the US was afraid he would, so they didn't give him all the weapons he wanted.

The US was even threatening to push through Korea all the way to Beijing, possibly with nukes. There's claims that the US used biological weapons against the Koreans.

The thing is, till the 90's the quality of life was better or comparable in the DPRK than the south. North Korea has a lot of mineral resources and was more industrialized than the south, which was mostly an agrarian economy at first because they had better soil. They went to shit when they defaulted on government loans. Then Gorbachev and Deng, who exerted social imperialist control over the DPRK, started demanding they pay up.

South Korea wasn't more democratic either, they were a right-wing autocracy till the 90's. The current president Park Geun-hye's father, Park Chung-hee, was an autocrat who collaborated with Japanese fascist.

We should be wary of US propaganda too. The US is still technically at war with DPRK. They have a reason to demonize a member of the "Axis of Evil". Is the DPRK a worker's paradise? No, it's probably about what a third-world country under siege by the Empire would be like.

North Korea was essentially a puppet government of China/the Soviet Union as well, as you mention with the Gorbachev thing, and they would have been perfectly happy to push the South Koreans into the sea as well.But I don't really care about any of that political or economic stuff in this context. I'm primarily talking about human rights. South Korea wasn't good with human rights, I won't argue that. But North Korea is and was a human rights nightmare, and they don't deserve to be taken seriously in the least.

Cuba, by contrast, although it has its own human rights issues, is a much more humane country, despite a crushing US embargo.

[Slavic]

I love how they make being a POW looking like going to summer camp.

'Look at these POW GIs, you to can enjoy all of the camp's festivities. Lay down your arms now, volley ball tryouts end in 2 weeks."

[Sabot Cat]

I love how they make being a POW looking like going to summer camp.

'Look at these POW GIs, you to can enjoy all of the camp's festivities. Lay down your arms now, volley ball tryouts end in 2 weeks."

I wonder why people don't actually try to actually do this. Wouldn't it be beneficial to treat POWs as well as you can, so morale on the other side is reduced and more people defect?

[The Disillusionist]

I wonder why people don't actually try to actually do this. Wouldn't it be beneficial to treat POWs as well as you can, so morale on the other side is reduced and more people defect?

Because that means spending resources that nobody wants to spend. A lot of the atrocities that tend to happen in POW camps aren't the result of deliberate aggressive mistreatment, but rather gross negligence. Lack of food, water, medical treatment, or any kind of facilities, for example.

Of course, in North Korea it would be lucky to escape execution long enough to starve to death.

[Siant]

How did they manage to invade their own country? Korea had been arbitrarily divided by two foreign powers after being occupied and exploited by a different foreign power. The divide that exists between north and south today (cultural, intellectual, etc.) was not present in 1950, it was something that was imposed from outside during the cold war

Of course. It was the same situation in Vietnam, but in there, the imperialist forces were defeated in the political arena.

[John Nada]

I wonder why people don't actually try to actually do this. Wouldn't it be beneficial to treat POWs as well as you can, so morale on the other side is reduced and more people defect?

They did try this. A few Americans did defect, mostly to China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_and_British_defectors_in_the_Kore an_War

[Stephen]

There are a couple of interesting documentaries on this subject (well, American soldiers defecting to both Korea and China): They Chose China and Crossing the Line.

[Sandy Becker]

Yeah, those Chinese Social Imperialists devoted more than a million troops to keep NK from being taken over by the US actual imperialists. That was just sooooo hegemonic of them wasn't it?

Obviously the Kim nepocrocy is a far cry from socialism. But echoing US imperialist propaganda about the North should be something to steer clear from.