View Full Version : Rise of extreme right-wing in Brazil
Redempption
6th November 2014, 18:56
As some of you may be aware, a few weeks ago, Brazil went through presidential elections. The result was a narrow victory for the current president, Dilma Ruseff from the Labor Party (PT), for about 3 million votes.
Now, the result itself doesn't really concern me. The problem is how some people, particulary from the more conservative and wealthy sections of the country are taking this. Ever since the results came out, there has been a wave of agressive, xenophobic, and sometimes even racist remarks to those who voted for Dilma. These comments are mostly aimed at the Northeastern part of the country, where the PT had the most support, which is also one of the poorest areas of Brazil.
Not only that, there has been some protests calling for an impeachment and even (Marxs protect us...) a military intervention (like the one in 1964 that created 20 years of a fascist dictatorship). Join all of this with the grow of far-right movements in Europe and other parts of the globe, and I can't help but to feel a little afraid.
We should probably keep an eyes on this...
(Just so we're clear, I do not support neither PT or their opponents, the PSDB)
motion denied
7th November 2014, 14:54
I think they're getting too much attention to be honest. Anti-Northeastern xenophobia has always existed, though it has risen the last decade (I think Vladimir Safatle, of all people, got it right). São Paulo is the conservative bulwark, the state that elects the worst kind of murderers. We know that.
There were 2,500 thousand people in the biggest, most populated and reactionary city in the country. This doesn't mean anything, really. Any leftoid march will gather as much, and we're nowhere close to a revolution. Not to mention that the Military Club, prominent bankers (Bradesco, Itaú etc) greeted Dilma's reelection (of course market's favourite candidate was Aécio, though), even fucking Obama did so as well.
There will be no coup, because there's no need for one. And there's not much that Bolsonaro family, Raio Privatizador (Privatization Lightning, topkek) etc can do about it.
Keep an eye open, sure.
newdayrising
13th November 2014, 17:32
One of the worst aspects I've noticed in this right wing revival of sorts was the classic effect where supposedly radical leftists all join together to defend a bourgeois faction against another because they're scared of fascism.
This has been the tightest victory for the Workers Party so far and also the one with the biggest support from people and organisations to the left of them.
I'm talking anecdotally now, but as far as acquaintances go, I was amazed with the number of self proclaimed anarchists supporting PT informally this time.
I know this is not really a fascist movement, it's actually more akin to the American tea party. But still, the phrase "Anti-fascism, the worst product of fascism" kept ringing in my head during the last months.
newdayrising
13th November 2014, 17:36
By the way, PT is supposed to have taken a turn to the left after the re-election. Some people I know are praising it. I think it's quite obvious that it's because they lost a lot of right wing support and are trying to get it from the left again.
motion denied
14th November 2014, 19:33
By the way, PT is supposed to have taken a turn to the left after the re-election.
Nope. What do these people say though?
newdayrising
15th November 2014, 01:14
Nope. What do these people say though?
I'm of the "nope" persuasion too, to me their politics are as bourgeois as the opposition, only in a different manner. What I mean is that in the resolution they publicized in the beginning of November, they're trying to relive the "peoples councils" thing that was stopped in congress and there's a lot of talk from PT militants of restarting the struggle for land reform and so on.
The people I was talking about believe it means Dilma's second mandate will be more left than the first one and that "the people" and the social movements are pushing the government lefwards. I think it's a ridiculous idea that wouldn't be possible even if Dilma actually wanted to do it. The only people who actually believe in it are PT militants, desperate leftists looking for something to cheer on and the kind of right wing maniacs who are protesting for military intervention.
By the way, when I said "The PT is supposed to have taken a turn to the left", I meant the party, not the government, and I was talking about their discourse.
Dr. Rosenpenis
19th November 2014, 16:52
the brazilian hard right-wing has gained more support and congressional representation in this election. and their inflamed rhetoric is likely to garner even more support which will result in more polarization in the political arena. though i doubt theyll be very effective given that theyre still in the minority. im not sure just how far this new wave of right-wing radicalisation will go, but we should outright reject the pt's inevitable attempts to exploit it for political gain. theyll go for the "lesser of two evils" vote by presenting themselves as the only alternative to the right-wing opposition.
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