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Illegalitarian
6th November 2014, 04:57
I know that this is kind of the most superficial question of all time but does anyone know whatever became of the state that Lenin had commissioned of Robespierre? I've seen a few pictures of it after it was built, but what became of it seems to be lost to the tides of history.

Rafiq
6th November 2014, 06:27
I was under the impression that only a statue of danton was erected - was there one of Robespierre, too?

Sabot Cat
6th November 2014, 06:55
I was under the impression that only a statue of danton was erected - was there one of Robespierre, too?

If I'm reading this correctly, yes: https://www.marxists.org/history/france/revolution/mathiez/1920/bolshevism-jacobinism.htm


http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5629/27981211.1d7/0_c6902_ce76911c_orig.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Robespierre%27s_monument_%28Moscow%2C_1918%29.jpg/640px-Robespierre%27s_monument_%28Moscow%2C_1918%29.jpg

According to this Russian blog (http://yarodom.livejournal.com/745960.html), the <<Robespierre monument in Moscow (1918), made ​​of poor concrete, collapsed in three days, though some said it was destroyed by enemies>>.

Oh, and this is the Russian Wikipedia article about it: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_% D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%8C%D0%B5%D1 %80%D1%83_(%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0)

<<Was opened for the first anniversary of the Revolution, November 3, 1918, and on the night of the 6th to 7th November collapsed - either as a result of undermining, or because of the poor quality of the concrete.>>

Illegalitarian
6th November 2014, 07:09
Yeah

https://www.marxists.org/history/france/revolution/mathiez/1920/bolshevism-jacobinism.htm


The similarities between Jacobinism (by which I mean the government of the Montagnards between June 1793 and July 1794) and Bolshevism are not in the least factitious, since Lenin himself spoke of it in his speeches [1] and he recently had a statue of Robespierre raised. Lenin, like all the Russian socialists, is nourished by the history of our great revolution, is inspired by its example, and puts it into practice while adapting them to his country and the circumstances.



This is what appears to be a picture of it

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Robespierre's_monument_(Moscow,_1918).jpg

I'm not sure if it's still around or if it has been removed long sense.. I can't see Russian nationalist, at some point, standing for a statue of a Frenchman lingering around, but its one of those petty things I can't help but wonder about

Illegalitarian
6th November 2014, 07:10
If I'm reading this correctly, yes: https://www.marxists.org/history/france/revolution/mathiez/1920/bolshevism-jacobinism.htm


http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5629/27981211.1d7/0_c6902_ce76911c_orig.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Robespierre%27s_monument_%28Moscow%2C_1918%29.jpg/640px-Robespierre%27s_monument_%28Moscow%2C_1918%29.jpg

According to this Russian blog (http://yarodom.livejournal.com/745960.html), the <<Robespierre monument in Moscow (1918), made ​​of poor concrete, collapsed in three days, though some said it was destroyed by enemies>>.

Oh, and this is the Russian Wikipedia article about it: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_% D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%8C%D0%B5%D1 %80%D1%83_(%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0)

<<Was opened for the first anniversary of the Revolution, November 3, 1918, and on the night of the 6th to 7th November collapsed - either as a result of undermining, or because of the poor quality of the concrete.>>

Welp mystery solved

RIP Robespierre statue

Sinister Cultural Marxist
9th November 2014, 23:06
Really, you don't need a statue of Robespierre to say "fuck you" to the ruling class, you only need to erect one in the first place. So even if it lasted three days, it served its purpose.

Sasha
9th November 2014, 23:16
Then again it collapsing in three days due to low quality concrete is a rather fitting analogy for something I'm pretty sure...

Hrafn
10th November 2014, 03:22
I took the liberty of making this.

http://goo.gl/SHmQcz

Sabot Cat
10th November 2014, 03:58
I took the liberty of making this.

http://goo.gl/SHmQcz

Ah, cool. Good job. :)

Illegalitarian
10th November 2014, 04:36
Then again it collapsing in three days due to low quality concrete is a rather fitting analogy for something I'm pretty sure...

This could mean.. so many things.


I wonder why they built one of Danton, though. He seems like quite the unscrupulous character, enriching from the chaos of revolution.

Sinister Cultural Marxist
11th November 2014, 19:21
Then again it collapsing in three days due to low quality concrete is a rather fitting analogy for something I'm pretty sure...

Very true. Well the statue of the bourgeois revolution must make way for the statue of the proletarian revolution. That, or a statue of Napoleon.