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Tim Cornelis
3rd November 2014, 00:28
European neo-fascists to observe free and fair Bonbass elections, also Stalinists
Further evidence of the fascist nature of the New Russia regime.
"Evidence suggests that two "election monitoring organisations" have been in charge of setting up the "election observation missions" for the DNR/LNR: the Eurasian Observatory of Democracy and Elections (EODE) run by Belgian fascist Luc Michel and the European Centre for Geopolitical Analysis (ECGA) run by Polish far right politician Mateusz Piskorski - both have been in the service of the Kremlin's foreign policy since 2005-2006."
Members from the following far-right groups participate in this:
Belgian Parti communautaire national-européen (extreme right/National Bolshevik)
Italian Forza Italia (right-wing)
Belgian Vlaams Belang (extreme right)
Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia (extreme right)
Serbian Progressive Party (right-wing)
Jobbik (extreme right)
Movement for Serbia (extreme right)
German Zuerst! (far right journal)
Austrian Die Reformkonservativen (right-wing)
Bulgarian Ataka (extreme right)
Czech No to Brussels – Popular Democracy (ultranationalist)
Russian Motherland (extreme right)
Oh and collaborating useful idiots:
Communist Party of Greece (extreme left/Stalinist)
Communist Party of the Russian Federation (ultranationalist/Stalinist)
http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.ca/2014/11/fake-monitors-observe-fake-elections-in.html?m=1
Of course, this article was written by a pro-Kiev fool, but that does not negate the factual information provided.
To hell with any (Stalinoid) social chauvinist collaborator with these ultrarightists and fascists. 'We' (they) already have two Stalinists fighting alongside European ultranationalists hailing from France and whatnot. Now this. Undoubtedly, the social chauvinists will find some terribly lame excuse ('uh, uh, soviet symbols, look' despite czarist symbols being promoted to official national symbols).
John Nada
3rd November 2014, 10:56
What does this spectacle mean?
I think that the non-fascist names listed might be more illuminating than the fascists ones.
According to Moscow-based journalist Alec Luhn, at the press conference in Donbass, the international "observers" suggested creating the Association for Security and Cooperation in Europe (ASCE), but then Stadler proposed the name "Agency for Security and Cooperation in Europe" (ASCE). The name obviously refers to the Oganisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), an international organisation that, in particular, monitors elections in different parts of the world. Since it provides objective and independent monitoring of elections and referenda, the OSCE is hated by the EODE and ECGA, as well as Russian authorities.Part of the distrust of OSCE could be because it was created by the Helsinki Accord (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_Accords). Many blame the counterrevolutions in the Eastern Bloc on this.
Communist Party of the Russian Federation (ultranationalist/Stalinist)Their (http://www.solidnet.org/russia-communist-party-of-the-russian-federation/cp-of-the-russian-federation-interview-by-vtetekin-cc-cprf-member-mp-on-the-developments-in-ukraine-en-ru) line on the national question(and probably everything else) is closer to Deng Xiaoping, not Stalinism. He spoke of Han unity, not the right of self-determination. If you look here (http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm), Stalin viewed Ukraine as an oppressed nation and opposed cultural-national self-determination based on things like race, ethnicity or tribe alone. He defined a nation as
A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture. Their little Tsarist White Russian nonsense is probably something used to justify the Novorossiya nation, which IMO is like digging up the New Swedish nation. Nevertheless, this is still influential in many countries foreign policies(being ex-Stalinist or ex-colonies), which has an effect on international law.
Rurkel
3rd November 2014, 11:43
Further evidence of the fascist nature of the New Russia regime.
From the reports from this region, it seems like they aren't really entrenched enough to really start doing stuff fascists are typically famous for, with them controlling a relatively small territory and still taking part in minor clashes with Kiev forces. They appeal to foreign fascists and far-rightists in their external politics, sure.
Sinister Cultural Marxist
3rd November 2014, 16:57
. Their (http://www.solidnet.org/russia-communist-party-of-the-russian-federation/cp-of-the-russian-federation-interview-by-vtetekin-cc-cprf-member-mp-on-the-developments-in-ukraine-en-ru) line on the national question(and probably everything else) is closer to Deng Xiaoping, not Stalinism. He spoke of Han unity, not the right of self-determination. If you look here (http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm), Stalin viewed Ukraine as an oppressed nation and opposed cultural-national self-determination based on things like race, ethnicity or tribe alone. He defined a nation as Their little Tsarist White Russian nonsense is probably something used to justify the Novorossiya nation, which IMO is like digging up the New Swedish nation. Nevertheless, this is still influential in many countries foreign policies(being ex-Stalinist or ex-colonies), which has an effect on international law.
Stalin played up Russian chauvinism during the war, and he was also responsible for the ethnic cleansing of a number of national minorities in Ukraine in favor of the Russians in places like Crimea (hey look at this fancy new house! The old owner ummm ... took an extended vacation to Uzbekistan!), proving all of his "concern" for oppressed nations in the Ukraine was overcome by his desire to maintain a cohesive, coherent, powerful state. And of course, Ukraine had significant socio-economic uphevals under Stalin too, where policies instituted in a top-down manner devastated the agricultural sector (which might have motivated some of the Ukrainians to side with reactionary nationalists in the first place)
If anything, Deng was a great Stalinist, in that he waved the Red flag but was a ruthless pragmatist when it came to preserving and strengthening the State at which he saw himself at the helm. He also threw out platitudes about China being an ethnically diverse state while economic and political oppression towards minority groups was rife.
Also, teaming up with fascists out of convenience is a pretty Stalinist thing to do too. Call it the "Molotov-Ribbentrop Vote" or something like that. I wonder if the fascist observers are going to surprise the Stalinist observers by kicking the shit out of them until winter kicks in, just for some historical accuracy.
John Nada
3rd November 2014, 21:38
No hate for the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Pact? I wasn't really going for some WWII reenactment, leave that to the rebels.
That Stalin thing wasn't exactly my main point or a defense. If anything I was attempting to criticize the Stalinist on their own terms, though I was a bit discombobulated for unrelated reasons;) at that time.
What I found interesting was the NGOs and that investment company(apparently from the US) who were observers too. Such as who's behind and funding them. They kind of stood out compared to the fascist circus.
Anyway here's a relevant article:
Russia has given cautious backing to a vote in separatist regions of east Ukraine, which local rebels said proved they would never again be ruled by Kiev. Russia has not recognised the Donetsk and Luhansk “people’s republics” as independent, but said the vote should be respected. Kiev said it would open criminal cases against the organisers. Most other countries have dismissed the vote as illegitimate and there were no recognised international observers present. Nevertheless, the poll was one more step in the de facto separation of the region from the rest of Ukraine. “The elected representatives of Donetsk and Luhansk regions obtained a mandate to hold negotiations with central Ukrainian authorities to solve problems … via a political dialogue,” said Russia’s deputy foreign minister, Georgy Karasin, on Monday. Western diplomats have been left guessing exactly what Moscow wants in the region. It seems clear the Kremlin does not want to annex the territory Crimea-style, but Moscow’s talk of negotiations between the separatists and Kiev was at odds with the noises coming out of Donetsk itself. “Kiev has to come to terms with the idea that Donbass is not part of Ukraine,” said Roman Lyagin, head of the separatists’ electoral committee. “Whether they will recognise the result of our vote or not is Kiev’s problem.”http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/03/germany-urges-russia-respect-unity-ukraine-donetsk-elections
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