Anarcha-Bolshevism

[Sinister Intents]

Yep, are there people that developed this contradiction? Is there a way to reconcile it? I'm not really an anarchist anymore, I'd more call myself a Marxist.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I don't think the contradiction between Bolshevism and the proletarian anarchism that existed in 1917 is as significant as people imagine. The Bolsheviks where themselves regularly called "anarcho-Bolsheviks" by Mensheviks and other pond scum for their refusal to postpone the revolution until a Russian bourgeois republic was in place, and obviously Lenin was closer to the anarchist sailors that shut down the Constituent Assembly because they couldn't listen to the Chernovs droning on, than he was to the Chernovs.

Shatov and Serge were notable anarchists who worked with the Soviets; Shatov called himself an "anarcho-Bolshevik" at times. The anarchist leader of the sailors, Zheleznyak, fought in the Red Army. I can remember the names of two minor figures who called themselves "a-B": Yuda Oshchibin and German Sandomirsky, but I don't know much about them.

Of course, Bolshevism is almost as difficult to reconcile with modern, consensus decisionmaking and affinity group spokes-council anarchism as it is with modern social-democratic "vote Labour without illusions for the seventh thousandth time" "Leninism".

[Sinister Intents]

Thanks for the history! Is pre cool. I'm definitely getting back into all of that as I delve farther into theory and practice. I'm probably still going to be a weird amalgamation of anarchist, left communist, and Leninist. Where could I read more about the history?

Edit: I'll go to the library

[consuming negativity]

Why?

[Sasha]

if bolshevik praxis would have been in anyway in line with their official positions on workers power and radical democracy there would be very little space between them and anarchists like makhno and say a duruti and the likes. sadly it didnt contain what it said on the tin.

[The Idler]

Anarchists promised to deliver revolution to the peasants, Bolsheviks promised peace, land and bread. Guess which the peasants preferred? Trying to reconcile the two is futile.

[Remus Bleys]

Anarchists promised to deliver revolution to the peasants, Bolsheviks promised peace, land and bread. Guess which the peasants preferred? Trying to reconcile the two is futile.

???

[Remus Bleys]

Also wouldn't it be anarcho-bolshevism

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

???

He's trying to say that the anarchists were actually little copies of the SPGB and that the mean old Bolsheviks promised (*gasp!*) reforms, which is of course why they failed.

It was probably meant as an insult to Bolsheviks but ends up being an insult to anarchists.

[Palmares]

Yep, are there people that developed this contradiction? Is there a way to reconcile it? I'm not really an anarchist anymore, I'd more call myself a Marxist.

Shouldn't "Anarcha-Bolshevism" be your tendency now then?

[Sinister Intents]

Shouldn't "Anarcha-Bolshevism" be your tendency now then?

I'm gonna start it as a tendency as a joke more so! I think it sounds better as 'anarcha' in stead of 'anarcho'

[Zoroaster]

"Is anarcho-Bolshevism a thing?"

Uh, no.

[The Idler]

He's trying to say that the anarchists were actually little copies of the SPGB and that the mean old Bolsheviks promised (*gasp!*) reforms, which is of course why they failed.

It was probably meant as an insult to Bolsheviks but ends up being an insult to anarchists.
Not really. Happy to insult any anarchists promising to deliver socialist revolution to peasants.