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Magón
10th October 2014, 17:38
Okay, first off I just want to make this clear, this is mostly for those who adhere and accept the Statist branch, of a Revolutionary outcome. So, Trotskyists, Stalinists/Marxist-Leninists, Maoists, Hoxha followers, etc. But anyone can say what they think, I don't care.

So, here it is: In an actual revolution, with violence and screaming and all that, where do you think you would find yourself best fitting, to progress and help the revolutionary cause? Do you see yourself in a position of leadership? An organizer of some kind, like a propagandist or something, spreading the good news of a worker's state, or the impending advance of the worker's state army? A simple man/woman on the front lines of the fight? Something else?

And also why do you see yourself in this position? What is it about yourself, you see being best for such a position/duty?

And why I'm asking this, is because there's just some new names on here, and it's always nice I guess to see where people think they best fit in a hypothetical revolutionary setting. So like I said, really anyone can say what they think, I just happen to be particularly interested in the thinking of our more State oriented comrades. . . God I hate that word.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
10th October 2014, 17:45
Probably in a trench somewhere, screaming about how I don't want to die. Then dying.

At best (and by "best" I mean "this would decrease my chance of getting shot by a considerable margin") I might find work in academic or scientific administration and oversight (it would obviously be important to mobilise the technical, academic and scientific intelligentsia for the civil war), but I suspect there are better candidates for that.

Futility Personified
10th October 2014, 17:48
Stealing from poundland then posting pictures of everything I nicked on facebook.

Probably cannon fodder. Thusly do my natural talents extend. Plus I am really, really good at Battlefield and Call of Duty. There's no lag in real life, how bad can it be? (horrible)

Brosa Luxemburg
10th October 2014, 17:56
Probably in a trench somewhere, screaming about how I don't want to die. Then dying.

At best (and by "best" I mean "this would decrease my chance of getting shot by a considerable margin") I might find work in academic or scientific administration and oversight (it would obviously be important to mobilise the technical, academic and scientific intelligentsia for the civil war), but I suspect there are better candidates for that.

I second the above. Also, I could see myself robbing banks to fund revolutionary activity.

GiantMonkeyMan
10th October 2014, 18:29
In an actual revolution, with violence and screaming and all that,
'Screaming'?!?!? No-one told me there'd be screaming!!!!! This changes everything! :ohmy:

Celtic_0ne
10th October 2014, 18:37
probably in strategic or logistical command

Rafiq
10th October 2014, 18:53
This would most likely not occur in my lifetime - but I imagine myself as "a simple man fighting on the front lines". No claims to false modesty here - I would be absolutely content to serve in a direct and singular way, to literally fight for the revolution.

Brutus
10th October 2014, 18:56
A bitter, drunken, rambling agitator who gets sent to the party centres for the amusement of the party militants. Why? Because I'm bitter, I can drink and I'd love to be a bolshevik agitator, but due to being drunk and mediocre I'd just get laughed at. Plus I'd see the world a bit.

RedWorker
10th October 2014, 18:57
Yeah right, like anyone here would participate as a "foot-soldier" in a violent revolution. :laugh:

Rafiq
10th October 2014, 19:18
Yeah right, like anyone here would participate as a "foot-soldier" in a violent revolution. :laugh:

Why is this something I would lie about? You obviously have such great insight about me, don't you.

Bala Perdida
10th October 2014, 19:26
If it's state oriented then I may be in front of a firing squad for looting. Being denounced as a traitor to the revolution. It's not my fault, I'm just trying to get by!

Art Vandelay
10th October 2014, 19:34
I'll probably end up drinking scotch and roaming the streets with my shotgun in one hand and my copy of das kapital in the other, screaming something about the tendency for the rate of profit to fall.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
10th October 2014, 20:20
in my current job. But i'd fuck off at 3.30 everyday and devote more time to drinking whisky.

Црвена
10th October 2014, 20:53
Blowing shit up, apparently. http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Anarchy

Crabbensmasher
10th October 2014, 21:03
I would devote my time to shooting down the many flocks of flying pigs that have suddenly taken to the skies.

Hrafn
10th October 2014, 21:04
I'm an anarcho-syndicalist/anarcho-communist of course, but yeah. Given my real life history... some form of street fighter, in the style of historical paramilitaries and contemporary movements in, for example, Sweden. <_<

I'm no good for theory, so manpower is what little I can contribute.

Zoroaster
10th October 2014, 21:23
I second the above. Also, I could see myself robbing banks to fund revolutionary activity.

Kamo would be proud.

And to answer the OP, I would probably be writing pamphlets or something. I mean, I'm not really physically fit for combat or anything, so yeah.

Slavic
10th October 2014, 22:17
Kamo would be proud.

And to answer the OP, I would probably be writing pamphlets or something. I mean, I'm not really physically fit for combat or anything, so yeah.


You don't need to be physically fit to point a rifle downrange.

I'd probably join a local militia considering I'm young, have prior military experience, and can shoot a rifle.

Illegalitarian
10th October 2014, 22:57
supplies smuggling and sabotage. I'm not exactly the trenches type, I've shot a gun maybe 3 or 4 times in my life :v

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
10th October 2014, 22:59
supplies smuggling and sabotage. I'm not exactly the trenches type, I've shot a gun maybe 3 or 4 times in my life :v

We will mire the threads of the enemy in our corpses! Or something.

I imagine knowing how to shoot a gun would be important in sabotage work as well, since you have to kill people who find you out.

Slavic
10th October 2014, 23:00
We will mire the threads of the enemy in our corpses! Or something.

I imagine knowing how to shoot a gun would be important in sabotage work as well, since you have to kill people who find you out.


Shooting a rifle is much easier than fabricating a bomb.

Illegalitarian
10th October 2014, 23:12
Sabotage isn't just some romanticized notion of blowing up trains carrying supplies to fascists, it comes in many forms. No comment on which of those two I would be better at Slavic, I imagine we're dancing close to violation revleft ToS as is :P

870: plugging some nosy nelly who gets too close isn't comparable to actual warfare. The former is easy enough, I'm not a terrible shot, but the latter is outside my skill set.

Assuming a revolution would even be overly violent. I am against violence unless necessary, myself, but I imagine things would get messy.

Lily Briscoe
10th October 2014, 23:16
Such a dumb thread.

GiantMonkeyMan
10th October 2014, 23:33
Such a dumb thread.
The premise of the thread was dumb. How are we supposed to know if we'll possibly be thrust into a leadership position or simply slog alongside every other prole? Leaders don't make revolutions, revolutions make leaders. So let folks pretend for a moment that revolution is like Saving Private Ryan but with red flags; a thread without a bullshit argument is almost a novelty on RevLeft.

Futility Personified
11th October 2014, 00:48
Saving Lenin's Privates, one red hair at a time.

Lily Briscoe
11th October 2014, 01:20
The premise of the thread was dumb.

Yes, that too. :p

motion denied
11th October 2014, 02:06
Probably hiding and thinking "Shit I preached a lot about this communism stuff, but I didn't think it would really happen. wat do now"

John Nada
11th October 2014, 03:52
Chairperson of Tha Party aka Dictator Over The Proletariat.

Magón
11th October 2014, 04:59
The premise of the thread was dumb. How are we supposed to know if we'll possibly be thrust into a leadership position or simply slog alongside every other prole? Leaders don't make revolutions, revolutions make leaders. So let folks pretend for a moment that revolution is like Saving Private Ryan but with red flags; a thread without a bullshit argument is almost a novelty on RevLeft.

I don't see the problem with people thinking about their position in a revolutionary setting. It's not like I said, "Pretend what your biggest fantasy job in a revolution will be," I just simply asked what people thought their place would be. What they think they're in their current way of thinking, best suited to help and progress an actual revolution. And why they would be best suited, in their mind, for whatever they chose.

I think you overlooked that part of my OP, or just misread it.

MarxSchmarx
11th October 2014, 06:55
Seems a bit too larp-y for serious discussion, so moved to chitchat.

Whatever your intentions op if you want ppl to reflect on their best skills to offer the cause today when. No such situation exists, I don't think this is the way to do it.

Personally I tend to think it won't play out like many here envision as a violent civil war with guns and trenches and all that. There will be reactionary violence, to be sure, but my guess is that by the time the reactionaries have to resort to force they are toonfew in. Number amdthe new order would be unstoppable. It will be a formalty to expropriate them.
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ChrisK
11th October 2014, 12:24
I would be posting on RevLeft.

BIXX
12th October 2014, 06:57
Voting Democrat and screaming at people to respect the cops at demos cause "they're the working class too!"

Tim Cornelis
12th October 2014, 09:36
An administrative job probably. We can't all be footsoldiers.

Blake's Baby
12th October 2014, 17:14
Standing on a table, shouting and waving bits of paper. I hope.

Os Cangaceiros
13th October 2014, 04:52
Estate gardner for whichever despotic autocrat emerges victorious.