Hi y'all

[Pan-Latinist]

Hello my fellow revlefters. I'm Pan-Latinist, a latin-american (I refuse to identify myself in the balkanized pseudo-national identities we have now) nationalist and also a socialist - just like Hugo Chávez, Brizola and Juan Perón. I love my nation (not the bourgeois concept of nation-state) and my struggle is to keep it free from the anglo-capitalist universalism that undermines us to just "minorities". I don't need any white anglo-saxon trosko claiming to support my struggle, and I think it's pathetic how the first world left reacts to social-problems. Bunch of capitalists wearing red.


PATRIA SOCIALISMO O MUERTE!

[Q]

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Are you attacking the far left in the latter two sentences? If so, could you elaborate why?

[Zoroaster]

Hello my fellow revlefters. I'm Pan-Latinist, a latin-american (I refuse to identify myself in the balkanized pseudo-national identities we have now) nationalist and also a socialist - just like Hugo Chávez, Brizola and Juan Perón. I love my nation (not the bourgeois concept of nation-state) and my struggle is to keep it free from the anglo-capitalist universalism that undermines us to just "minorities". I don't need any white anglo-saxon trosko claiming to support my struggle, and I think it's pathetic how the first world left reacts to social-problems. Bunch of capitalists wearing red.


PATRIA SOCIALISMO O MUERTE!


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[PhoenixAsh]

Italian Fascism led popular organizations to an effective participation in national life, which had always been denied to the people. Before Mussolini's rise to power, the nation was on one hand and the worker on the other, and the latter had no involvement in the former. [...] In Germany happened exactly the same phenomenon, meaning, an organized state for a perfectly ordered community, for a perfectly ordered population as well: a community where the state was the tool of the nation, whose representation was, under my view, effective. I thought that this should be the future political form, meaning, the true people's democracy, the true social democracy.

—Juan Perón

[Tim Cornelis]

Third way proto-fascism.

[RevoTO]

ban him

[Chomskyan]

Was he attacking Trotskyism? I don't particularly care personally, but if we want to debate differing points of view, I think we should do that in other forums.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Was he attacking Trotskyism? I don't particularly care personally, but if we want to debate differing points of view, I think we should do that in other forums.
Yes, like OI.

[Martin Luther]

I think you should look a little deeper into Juan Peron's political ideas and affiliations. His ideology (not the neo-Peronism in power now but his original political creed) is very reactionary but the state he presided over was actually pretty similar to Chavista Venezuela. In both, the faction in power had support from a relatively small part of the ruling class. The difference is that Chavez drew almost all of his popular support from the working class, whereas Peron relied more heavily on the 'middle' classes, much like fascism before the war. Peron repressed the revolutionary left, whereas Chavez and Maduro use it in its weaker form as an ally. Chavez was more similar to Campora, who represented the 'left wing' of Peronism and held power briefly.

So Peron is a poor political idol but he wasn't actually all that different from Chavez, who a lot of people around here hold up. Or Ortega and the Sandinistas for that matter.

I can definitely sympathize with pan-Latinism as a vehicle for working class unity (its been serving that purpose to some extent since the Cuban revolution).

[GLF]

Basically, he's a Latin Nationalist. Oh, and he doesn't want a Western-European descended person supporting his struggle. "Ethnic socialism" is nazi-esque bullshit.

Ethno-nationalism has absolutely no place among leftists. Those kind of views fall right into the hands of the bourgeois.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I don't need any white anglo-saxon trosko claiming to support my struggle, and I think it's pathetic how the first world left reacts to social-problems.

Oh, and what might those "social-problems" be?

And I think Moreno would have been right up your alley. He was also a big fan of Peron.

[motion denied]

Brizola was badass.

You're just a reactionary. Why was this thread revived tho

On the other hand, by the lights of privilege theory I should agree with you. Who cares about privileged europeans/americans think about us? They don't even have our experience LOL.

Gringos out!

[GLF]

Brizola was badass.

You're just a reactionary. Why was this thread revived tho

On the other hand, by the lights of privilege theory I should agree with you. Who cares about privileged europeans/americans think about us? They don't even have our experience LOL.

Gringos out!

That's Fascism.

Fascists see race and ethnicity as a useful tool for uniting the underclasses. They themselves know it's a bunch of nonsense (see Mussolini's quotes on race) but it is used as a tool. That's why "identity" is so often quoted among fascists. Basically, if you see yourself as different you are going to a concentration camp. This pseudo-socialistic desire to unify all classes within a nation (as opposed to eliminate all classes in all nations) stands in direct contrast to what a true socialism.

Why do I bring this up? Because your continent has quite a history with fascism and I just think you should reexamine your influences. And I think any honest person would see that ethno-nationalism is a part of Fascism, and could never be a part of Communism.

I don't blame you for your feelings - and I feel that privilege is definitely something we should work to overthrow. But like Che, I see the privilege more about North and South (hemispheres) and less about white and brown. Please try and realize that.

[motion denied]

Location, I was being facetious. :lol:

[tachosomoza]

Perón was basically a tan Huey Long in a snazzy uniform.

[LeftOrthodox]

I find this funny...ethno-nationslism is pretty meh in my eyes.

[Pan-Latinist]

Comrades!

I have received with deep sorrow the news of an irreparable loss to the cause of our people struggling for their liberation.
We are united with those who have embraced this ideal, anywhere in the world and under any flag, who fight against injustice, misery and exploitation. We are united with all the courage and determination of those that face the insatiable greed of imperialism, with the complicity of the military oligarchy and puppet states propped up by the Pentagon to keep the people oppressed.
Today in this struggle, a hero fell, the most extraordinary young man to give his life to the revolution in Latin America, Comandante Ernesto Che Guevara.
His death breaks my heart because he was one of us, perhaps better than us all, an example of selfless behavior, the spirit of sacrifice and renunciation. The strong belief in the righteousness of the cause he embraced, gave him the strength and courage, courage that today elevated him to the status of hero and martyr.
I have read that some seek to portray him as an enemy of Peronism. Nothing is more absurd. Supposing it were true that in 1951 he had been linked to an attempted coup, how old were you then? I myself, being a young officer, participated in the coup that overthrew the popular government of Hipolito Irigoyen. I also at that time was used by the oligarchy.
The important thing is to recognize those mistakes and correct them. And Che fixed them!
In 1954, when Guatemala struggled to defend the government of Jacobo Arbenz against the arrogant armed intervention of the Yankees, I personally gave instructions to the Foreign Ministry to help solve the difficult situation facing this brave young Argentine and this is how he left for Mexico.
His life, his epic – is the clearest example to our young people, young people throughout Latin America.
There will always be those who will attempt to tarnish his name. Imperialism has a huge fear of charisma, and he managed to win the hearts of the masses of our subjugated people. Already I have received news that the Argentine Communist Party, has begun a hypocritical smear campaign to discredit him. This is not surprising, because it was always known that they act contrary to the historical national interest. They were always against the national and popular movements. We Peronists can attest to that.
The Hour of the people’s national revolution in Latin America has struck, and this is an irreversible process. The current balance will be broken! It is childish to think that no revolution can overcome the resistance of the oligarchy and it’s imperialist investor monopolies.
The socialist revolution must be carried out, no matter under what flag the revolution is fought. We should stand united for the sake of all our national movements. Solidarity among ourselves and in the face of the privileged exploiters.
Most Latin American governments are not going to solve national problems simply because they do not care about the national interests.
To carry out the socialist revolution, revolutionary speeches are not enough. We need organized revolutionary action, strategy and tactics, to make the revolutionary victory possible.
At the forefront of this should be those who embrace the struggle! This fight will be tough, but the final victory will be won for our people. Our enemies have a significant financial advantage over us, but we have an extraordinary moral force that gives us confidence in the justice of our struggle and the historical justification of our actions.
Peronism, in accordance with the traditions of our struggle and, as a national, popular revolutionary movement, give our tribute to the idealist and the revolutionary Comandante Che Guevara – Argentine guerrilla, who was killed in combat, fighting for the national revolutionary vixtory in Latin America.


Juan Domingo Peron
Madrid, October 24, 1967






And I think any honest person would see that ethno-nationalism is a part of Fascism, and could never be a part of Communism.


DPRK and DDR.

[prolepac]

You would probably classify me as one of those capitalists wearing red. You'd be wrong, but I doubt I'd be able to convince you of that since you seem like your mind is made up. I understand your anger, but wonder why you be so eager to direct it at people you've never met.:confused:

[RedWorker]

Why is the OP not restricted yet?